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Irgy
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Gymea, Sydney
Feb 2004
time: 15:33
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Hi guys, I'm new here
I've played a fair bit of SMAC/X single player but only a couple of multiplayer games, due to having nobody to play against.
I win pretty much consistantly on transcend in single player, so I like to think I've got at least some idea what I'm doing.
Basically just want to know how to go about organising a game, either a PBEM game or, if someone has some free time on a Sunday, even a real time game over the net?
Are there any things I ought to know before I start? I read the rules in that tournament PBEM thread at the top already
Irgy
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mart7x5
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I can play pbem. But also i could CMN, but that would be my first time
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mart7x5
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I can CMN this game, just write if it's ok with you, or if someone else do it or no CMN, i can play....
Irgy, your opinion is needed, as you called us for this game
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Irgy
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Gymea, Sydney
Feb 2004
time: 15:33
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Hi guys
Ahh good lots of people to play by the looks of it : )
I guess it had better be smac so we can all be involved
As for faction, I am capable of using University, Hive or Gaians, mabye peacekeepers if I absolutely have to just because they're fairly generic. I usually prefer University but as that's taken I guess I'll be whichever of Hive and Gaians nobody else wants to use, probably Hive if they're both free.
What's a CMN by the way? is it some sort of impartital game master or something?
As for rules, I'm not that fussed really, my preferences include
Choose your tech (the complexity of the tech tree is one of the best parts of the game imho)
Tech Stagnation (I find you often invent things faster than you can prototype them even with stagnation)
Unity Survey (like being able to plan a good base arrangement, it's not that important though)
Large average random map preferred, I don't know any custom maps other than planet, and I'm sick of planet - it only comes in standard and huge anyway
Anything else I ought to know?
Irgy
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Barinthus
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A Magical Moment...
Jan 2004
time: 21:33
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quote:
Originally posted by binTravkin
DataAeolus seems a powerful player,if he allows others to choose his fac..
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 That's funny! Trust me once we start playing, you probably be begging Irgy to kick me off and give my faction to AI since it'd play better 
I just figured I have to start somewhere so what's wrong with random? Overally I'm a very flexible guy.
Anyway it appears it'd be for the best if we were to use SMAC since it appears not everybody has SMAX. As for maps, I don't care.
Mmmm what else? Shoot I wanted to say something....  Oh yes, why don't we stay with PBEM official rules? But if you want to change them around that's fine. Just make sure I understand how they work. For instance, tech stagnation, what's that? I usually play with standard rules on SP games so.
Whee my first PBEM, I can't wait. 
EDIT: Yeah I know, I didn't realize there was double As in my name, duh me. If there's a way to change my name I'd like to do it, know how?
EDIT2: On second thought, I'll take Gaians only if nobody else wants that one.
Last edited by Barinthus on 05-02-2004 at 08:02
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mart7x5
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quote:
Originally posted by Irgy
...What's a CMN by the way? is it some sort of impartital game master or something? |
Yes, you could make that comparison to RPG games. I am new to multiplayer SMAC, but i was gamemastering in Warhammer RPG (that's popular in Europe). I play already in a number of games so i thought i might CMN this one. If this is ok with all of you.
I guess 4 players and 3 AI is quite ok and turns do not take too much time then.
About tech stagnation - it slows down the game a bit which in PBEM might make it too slow, but if someone do not mind long waits for the techs - it is actually nice option. I play single player mostly with tech stagnation for the purpose of better usage of prototypes, as you Irgy wrote.
I propose also to make a table of selected options by us, it will be easier to see what is preferred.
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Irgy
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Gymea, Sydney
Feb 2004
time: 15:33
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Which rules are the official PBEM rules? My rules suggestions were only preferences, and all based entirely on my single player experience, so if there's standard rules to be playing with in PBEM we might as well just use them I guess
By the way, how does the timing in these games usually work? during the week I can only do a move in the evenings, *mabye* the morning if I have to (evenings being after 7pm, at gmt+10 (it might be really +11 at the moment because we have daylight savings going)). Weekends I'm free at random times all over the place of course : )
mart7x5: If you're happy to CMN, then that would be good. : )
Irgy
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mart7x5
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The rules are mainly to make gameplay easier and prevent exploits of game bugs. Mostly the rules prohibit using bugs. here is the link (you need to scroll a bit):
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=14379
As for the map and game option it can be arranged. Irgy, you might judge all by yourself, as you started the thread, or you can go for voting from all players, the choice is yours. It is about those custom rules, (when you choose custom rules when starting a game you are offered all those options)
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CMN - Coordinator Moderator Narrator.
Last edited by mart7x5 on 05-02-2004 at 09:27
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shawnmmcc
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Since you already have five, I'll volunteer to CMN. I'm already doing another game that's working out fine. However, since I've always been a hybrid/builder type, I better at large or bigger maps. If you fellows are wanting a balanced small map, you might try Darsnan or mart7x5. However, Darsnan does give each faction 3 formers/3 pods/3 scouts, on a small map that can result in a very different faction balance. He's an awesome map designer.
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mart7x5
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If you can CMN Shawn, they I can play. I will take Spartans they - they are still free.
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shawnmmcc
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If you can take over and poll everybody and send me the game conditions, I'll get it built asap. Also how much can I tweak the AI factions, I prefer to make them pretty tough on the bigger maps because you make contact with them later, and they are so pathetic. I usually like to give them some extra techs, facilities, terraforming, and units, especially formers. I try not to make them too strong, or its players against AI, and that's not any fun either. hjcarr01 at athena.louisville.edu
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shawnmmcc
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I tweak to fit the personality. Morgan will be tweaked defensively so he can grow some and not be a pushover, while the Peacekeepers will be more of a threat.
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mart7x5
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EDITED
code:
SMAC game, version release 5.0
(5.0 is update for compatibility with WinXP)
Factions:
Gaia's Stepdaughters DataAeolus
Human Hive Irgy
University of Planet Walek
Morgan Industries AI
Spartan Federation Mart7x5
The Lord's Believers BinTravkin
Peacekeeping Forces AI
When tie - Irgy's vote counts most
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Preference..DataAeolus Irgy Walek Mart7x5 BinTravkin|Settings
Map size L L S L-H H | Large
Ocean ? 50-70 30-50 50-70 30-50 | 50-70
Erosion ? Aver Aver Weak Weak | Aver
Life ? Aver Aver Abund. Rare | Aver
Clouds ? Aver Aver Dense Dense | Aver
Difficulty ? Transc. Transc. Transc. Transc. | Transc.
Transcend ? Yes Yes Yes Yes | Yes
Diplomatic ? Yes Yes Yes Yes | Yes
Economic ? Yes Yes Yes Yes | Yes
Cooperative ? ? Yes Yes Yes | Yes
Do or Die ? ? Yes No No | No
Flexible start ? Yes ? Yes Yes | Yes
Tech stag ? Yes Yes Yes Yes | Yes
Spoils of war ? ? No No Yes | No
Blind research ? No Yes No No | No
Intense riv ? ? ? No No | No
No survey ? No Yes No No | No
No scatter ? No ? No No | No
No rnd events ? No No Yes No | No
Time Warp ? ? 3xNo No No | No
Iron man ? ? ? No No | No
Rand person ? No ? No Yes | No
Rand social ? No ? No Yes | No
Last edited by mart7x5 on 06-02-2004 at 00:25
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Irgy
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Gymea, Sydney
Feb 2004
time: 15:33
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Some more preferences, most of them are the same as everyone else has voted for. Just go with whatever gets the most votes, no need for me to veto anything; unless it's a tie and someone has to tip the balance it or something...
Difficulty Transc.
Transcend yes
Diplomatic yes
Economic yes
Flexible start yes
Tech stag yes
Blind research no
No survey no
No scatter no
No rnd events no
Rand person no
Rand social no
Everything else that I've left out you can count me as abstaining.
Iron Man is a bit of a moot point in PBEM isn't it? You're not supposed to load more than once anyway are you?
Irgy
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