14-02-2004 21:15									#31
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quote: I have seen that there It's a narrow stripe of calm sea waters between the ocean that separate us. If in the future our cultural borders touched, a intercontinental trading path could be opened. We could offer dyes, and maybe spices. But you have to found a city at the West desert, or as close as possible :-)

	16-02-2004 18:30									#32
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Hmm, with the lighthouse, anyway. I don't think borders touching matters - trade over "sea" tiles requires the Lighthouse or Astronomy.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

However, if it's possible, the thing we need is IRON!

-Arrian

	16-02-2004 19:04									#33
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If we live, we need to hit the Gunpowder branch.

	03-03-2004 04:33									#34
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Perhaps we could ask the LL what they think about Tabemono's map idea.

Now we're meeting more teams, let me know if you want help on the diplo, Arrian. If you're OK rattling off the messages that's fine by me - it's worked well so far, but if it gets busy ahead let me know.

Another thing about LL - if we were to do WM trade, including LL's, we wouldn't need our NW galley to explore or chart a sea-lane. If LL are on a sea-route and they build the Lighthouse we can trade with them.

	03-03-2004 18:55									#35
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I'm alright for now, especially since contact with LL has been minimal of late...

I don't necessarily want to stir up even more discussion of map trading if it is our intention to delay that trading.

-Arrian

	18-03-2004 21:40									#36
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Sent to MZ:

quote: MZ, It's been a long time since Cake or Death and Latin Lover said a word to each other. For my part, I apologize for letting it go so long. I'd like to discuss tech trading. CoD is currently researching Engineering. What are you up to, and is there potential for a trade? Even if it turns out we are duplicating each others research perhaps we can coordinate something for the future? -Arrian

	24-03-2004 19:29									#37
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MZ told me that he's too busy for any role in LL at this time, and that we should send stuff to Niessuh. So I readdressed the above PM and sent it.

-Arrian

	26-03-2004 21:58									#38
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Reply from Niessuh, and my reply thereto:

quote: Hi, sorry for the delay, It's because our comunications are completely broken. We are on anarchy! We can't do any estable trading now, but our Gran Miembro guessed this revolt and ordered not to begin any investigation and stodk gold some years ago. We are trying to organize our government at our cities, when this happens I think that we can use our gold to purchase technology and then start an interesting research. So we are completely open to a deal with CoD. Could you give us a sheet with tech prices? Have you got any idea about common future research? Yours - Niessuh Huevote de Relaciones Sexteriores, Team Latin Lover

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quote: Niessuh, If you are interested in purchasing Engineering, I can come up with a price for you. Beyond that, we're just not sure what we're doing yet. -Arrian

	07-04-2004 17:18									#39
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Reply from N:

quote: Greetings! We are interested in Engineering. How much gold?

Good question. How much gold indeed?

-Arrian

	08-04-2004 19:34									#40
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Response to N:

quote: Good question. I don't know. Can I get back to you on that one? Thanks, -Arrian

	13-04-2004 22:41									#41
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Sent to N:

quote: Niessuh, Just so you know, we haven't forgotten about this. We still have several turns to go before we discover Engineering, and we haven't yet agreed on a price. I hope to get back to you soon with a firm offer. -Arrian

I'm thinking offering it at 1/3 beaker cost. We're already getting Feudalism plus the right to pass Feudalism along to Python for Engineering. So we're already breaking even and then some.

-Arrian

	14-04-2004 13:47									#42
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Yes, 1/3 beaker cost sounds OK

	03-05-2004 23:26									#43
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LL asked us if we had tech for sale with the save. I offered Engineering, but thay have already have it.

quote: We had Engineering now, purchased from Sunshine a couple of turns ago. Right now we are interested in Feudalism. So our treasure is low, but Its growing quickly :-)

	11-05-2004 02:35									#44
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quote: Greetings! we still want to purchase Feudalism. If you want/could, our treasury is 232gold and payment per turn is possible also. Just say a (interesting) number :-)

and the reply ...

quote: Greetings to the fine people of Latin Lover! I don't think Feudalism is ours to sell, but I am checking on our forum. Meanwhile, are you interested in Invention? We are researching it at the moment. Also, our galley was returning home between Nereida and New Plymouth, but it was blocked by your own fair vessel near New Plymouth. Are you about to attack us?

	12-05-2004 19:07									#45
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quote: Hail Latinos! Just to confirm - Tabemono own the copyright on our Feudalism, so please consult them regarding sale of this tech. Many thanks.

	12-05-2004 19:09									#46
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Hmm, I'm wondering whether LL are finding Feudalism hard to buy on their own continent. Mast, SS and Tabemono have good reason to hold it back. Then again, LL have a 3-point defensive unit anyway.

	24-05-2004 23:59									#47
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Having recently been appointed a foreing ambassador by Arrian, I have contacted LL with this PM (it has already been sent)

quote: Team Latin Lover, This is a simple PM to inform you that Arrian has decided that i shall be the deputy FAM for CoD. This means that If you need to contact CoD for anything, You can contact me with a PM or by email (chris@jackos.f2s.com, if you don't already have it). And to business: while we do not fuedalism to sell, we can sell you Invention, either tech for tech, or tech for gold (or a mixture, of course). We are mostly aiming for monotheism, and the other Med era techs, chivalry aside Another note is that we are interested in a non-interference pact, so you don't interfere with out continent and vice versa. Contact me if and when you have a reply, krill

	23-06-2004 23:38									#48
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Sent to LL

quote: Hi LL, How are you? we were wondering who your current turn player was, and who we should send future diplomatic messages to, and perhaps we could bring each other up to speed on whats happening on our own Continents, -krill Cake Or Death?

	24-06-2004 05:09									#49
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I think MZ is playing the turn for LL now. In fact he asked if there was anyone missing from the save list - so if anyone didn't get the last save, PM Master Zen with your addie.

	24-06-2004 15:57									#50
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yeah, I talk to MZ most evenings, in #GoW CoFA, and they are set out in a triumvirate, with MZ, Niessuh, and (someone i can't remember). Any info we need to trade, I do it there, almost every evening (and every evening Euro '04 is on).

	23-03-2005 00:34									#51
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quote: Greetings! Due to the certain fact that our border cities has been investigated, we have been forced to declare war to you and other civs. Of course we don't have any intention to fight against you, so if you compromise not to investigate our cities we will sign peace immediately. Best wishes Niessuh, LL

	23-03-2005 00:36									#52
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I think we should just say that if they're not going to attack us then fine. We'll make peace later, and they can have the peace of mind of not being investigated.