03-02-2004 17:35									#1
	Single City Cultural Victory Possible? Put an end to popups!

I am currently playing a game where I have a city dedicated to culture. On Emperor level I somehow managed the Colossus and Mausoleum, JSB's, Magellan's, Newton's (missed Shakespeare's to an AI prebuild!), TOE and Universal Suffrage as well as relatively early Temple/Library/Cathedral/Colloseum and Heroic Epic. Which IMHO isn't too bad for one city.

Many of these are now producing double culture, I am getting 64 culture/turn at about 320 turns into the game and am currently about 8,800 culture, so I would indeed make it to 20,000 in another 180 turns or so (maybe cut down a few turns if I get the UN/SETI/Internet etc)

But I can't see any way given the current pace of the tech race that I or the Incas won't get to a Space Race victory first.

And if the tech had been so slow that the Space Race techs wouldn't be accessible before he end of the game, then I wouldn't yet have the wonders to give me the culture to get to the SCCV!

Has anyone here ever won an (Epic Game) Single City Cultural Victory (without Space Race turned off?)

	03-02-2004 22:19									#2
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Nope, but remember the space parts now requires learning more or less all the tech in the game. So you may have more time than you planned.

	03-02-2004 22:27									#3
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Yes, monarch game on a tiny map, won by a pretty high margin (spaceship parts not yet available to anyone) It definitely helps to be on a tiny map. Good starting location a must also. The trick of course is to play with only one city.

	07-02-2004 03:39									#4
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wow , you play an empire building game and dont build an empire

	07-02-2004 04:48									#5
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I won on emperor using a fantastic start as the Dutch. fun game. I think standard or large archipelago.

	07-02-2004 04:48									#6
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Smiley I though you meant 20K for one city are you talking about a straight OCC game?

	07-02-2004 06:42									#7
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yes, straight OCC, Babylonians (for cheap religious and science buildings)

	07-02-2004 06:51									#8
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each to his own perhaps, but if it so easy to beat the game at highest levels with one city , then time for a new game me thinks

	07-02-2004 07:05									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin each to his own perhaps, but if it so easy to beat the game at highest levels with one city , then time for a new game me thinks

its not sooo easy. its generally get a decent start and hope no one snuffs you out. I imagine OCC deity or sid would be near impossible.

	07-02-2004 07:34									#10
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maybe now, but i guwess someone will find some loophiles to exploit it soon enouggh, same as i n civ 2

	07-02-2004 08:50									#11
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I can't speak to OCC, I can say straight Sid is not a lot of fun.

	07-02-2004 09:39									#12
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i still ejoying the lower levels.... once i feel invincible at all civs i will go up a level

	07-02-2004 10:10									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin i still ejoying the lower levels.... once i feel invincible at all civs i will go up a level

good god

all 31 (32) civs? per level? zounds.

	07-02-2004 11:38									#14
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Rasputin I just noticed the Spanish forum and I am surprised you have not mentioned it.

It has more post than all the forums for AC combined and not too far behind all of the CivII forums. That would seem to be incredible.

	07-02-2004 23:00									#15
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i did an emperor occ as greece once, but i restarted a few times to find a fabolous start (and it was).

	07-02-2004 23:38									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX i did an emperor occ as greece once, but i restarted a few times to find a fabolous start (and it was).

yeah, need that fantastic start for an upper level occ.

no shame in that, is there?

	08-02-2004 05:16									#17
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Nope. Always gotta have the following: River, coast, luxury resource, and hills.

	08-02-2004 05:56									#18
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel good god all 31 (32) civs? per level? zounds.

yes i always play a differnt civ eachh game to get a fun feel for the game..

	08-02-2004 05:58									#19
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Rasputin I just noticed the Spanish forum and I am surprised you have not mentioned it. It has more post than all the forums for AC combined and not too far behind all of the CivII forums. That would seem to be incredible.

hmmm maybe i need to learn anlother langauge....


but apart from that , i dont see you relevance

	08-02-2004 05:59									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Nope. Always gotta have the following: River, coast, luxury resource, and hills.

is this everyones definition of a good start.?? if i was to try a OCC ..... and how long does it taske in play hours to complete

	08-02-2004 15:51									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin maybe now, but i guwess someone will find some loophiles to exploit it soon enouggh, same as i n civ 2

Possible, but I have extreme doubts for Sid. Already at emperor you need a good start and some luck later on as well. Civ3 just doesn't lend itself to 1 perfect city.........relatively ineffective SSC, 4 turn research cap, resource luck needed, AI not malleable through tech gifting, the list is quite long.

	08-02-2004 22:23									#22
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OCC takes a couple hours or so to play, definitely a one-sitting game.

	10-02-2004 12:55									#23
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Won a cultural victory on emperor with the Babs on AU 302 (?) - well, the OCC AU, then kept playing and won space race too. Thread should still be around in the strat forum (check the index). A lot of cultural wins in that one.

	10-02-2004 14:12									#24
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a couple of hours????? geeeez i normaly still in BC time after a few hours play...

will have to see if i can finda downloadable log of a OCC win to see if io can follow it and play the same...

	10-02-2004 15:24									#25
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It's pretty easy. Many turns end with just a "pray".

There was a decent guide kicking around also a while back.........most of it is still applicable to C3C.

	10-02-2004 16:04									#26
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i guess not much happens most turns