03-02-2004 18:05									#1
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Here is the new thread with updated table:

Name	Status	Vote		Name	Status	Vote
Zopperoni	Dead (Village - Round 4)	N/A		GhengisFarb	Dead (Mafia - Round 6)	N/A
rah	Alive	N/A		MattH	Dead (Mafia - Round 2)	N/A
Jon Miller	Alive	Osweld		Guynemer	Alive	Jon Miller
HongHu	Dead (Mafia - Round 3)	N/A		Comrade Tassadar	Dead (Mafia - Round 1)	N/A
Hercules	Dead (Mafia - Round 4)	N/A		Pave	Alive	N/A
ADG	Alive	Jon Miller		alva	Alive	N/A
Kassiopeia	Dead (Village - Round 3)	N/A		Spiffor	Dead (Village - Round 2)	N/A
Jamski	Dead (Village - Round 5)	N/A		Nikolai	Alive	N/A
Osweld	Alive	N/A		Jonny	Alive	Jon Miller
Vlad Antlerkov	Alive	rah		Drogue	Alive	Guynemer
Skanky Burns	Alive	Jon Miller		CapitanGarlic	Dead (Mafia - Round 5)	N/A
Frozzy	Alive	N/A		Spaced Cowboy	Dead (Village - Round 1)	N/A
Village Status: Day
Votes: Jon Miller - 4 Osweld / rah / Guynemer - 1

Frozzy, you didn't bold your comment about Osweld. Was that a vote or not?

	03-02-2004 18:09									#2
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How many votes has rah been second in?

	03-02-2004 18:17									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Osweld killed him, I reckon. Evil Commie.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue Guy posted first quite a few times, and seems to try to docpile someone usually, showing he was online most of the time the kill was posted, and he's been trying to make it not be him voted off. My vote goes to Guynemer.

It could not be either me or Guynemer. We where both the most adamant about killing Jamski - If one of us where the mafia, why would we want to kill our ally?


I still suspect that it's Rah who is behind this.

	03-02-2004 18:19									#4
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Osweld: The mafia's do not, IIRC, know who the other one is, and why would they want to spare the other one? Everyone was adament about killing Jamski though. He was, I believe, the butcher after all.

	03-02-2004 18:24									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue Osweld: The mafia's do not, IIRC, know who the other one is, and why would they want to spare the other one?

I would assume they're working together. I knew Jamski was a mafia, the other one would have to be pretty stupid to not know it aswell.

quote: Everyone was adament about killing Jamski though.

Yeah, so adament they took their time and played that cruel joke on Zopperoni first.

	03-02-2004 18:27									#6
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Yea, you bastards! You have no respect for authority!

Respect mah authori-tay!

	03-02-2004 18:29									#7
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I would assume they're not. There is no reason for them to be. Maybe they want to win together, maybe alone. Either way, Jamski's dead, one's left, and going with the flow would be the least conspicuous thing to do. I don't think it rules out Guy. However my belief in his guilt is timid. It could well be someone else. I just think he's the most likely person.

	03-02-2004 19:15									#8
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A test of logic.

If the mafia is forced to use a single style,
The last non stiletto kill was Herc.
Since then Zopp, CapGarlic, and Jamski have been killed. One of them had to be one of the Mafiass. If one mafia isn't allowed to kill the other then that would eliminate CapGarlic.

But if they changed style just to mess with our heads, all bets are off.

SO based on that,
I vote Osweld since he keeps voting for me.

Is VOVAN going to tell us which one of the three was the mafia? (if any)

Is VOVAN going to tell us if one mafia can kill the other?

Is VOVAN going to tell us if the mafia know each other?

I doubt it.

	03-02-2004 19:20									#9
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	03-02-2004 19:25									#10
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Oppps, another senior moment.

Yes, you are correct.

To answer question one though, will you deny being one of them, and can we believe you, which I would have a tendency to since you're dead and have nothing to gain.

	03-02-2004 19:28									#11
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The afterlife.

Apparently it is after life.

The minute I had one moment of clear thought and made the connection with rah and the Princess Bride they kill me.

"CHEATER?" No one told me watching movies was against the rules.....................

	03-02-2004 19:32									#12
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rah: Zop already has denied being the mafia. I think most are convinced it's Jamski.

	03-02-2004 19:33									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue rah: Zop already has denied being the mafia. I think most are convinced it's Jamski.

Everyone mentioned in your post is already dead. Except rah.

	03-02-2004 19:34									#14
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quote: Originally posted by rah To answer question one though, will you deny being one of them, and can we believe you, which I would have a tendency to since you're dead and have nothing to gain.

It wasn't me.

I was put in a precarious position by our beloved GM. It couldn't have been me, I was destined to be a vote-magnet.

	03-02-2004 19:35									#15
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"clear thought" gotta love it. Have to wipe the Dr. pepper off my keyboard now. Of course, that is one of my favorite movies.

	03-02-2004 19:37									#16
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There's no way Drogue can be this clueless.

He only mentions possible Mafia suspects that are already dead.

Either he's too lazy to follow the game (doubtful) or so confident he won't be killed (being the Mafia) that he only shows up every now and then to throw off everyone else.

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	03-02-2004 19:37									#17
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Everyone mentioned in your post is already dead. Except rah.

Yes, as is the first mafia. We were discussing who the mafia who is dead is. It was either Zop, Capitan Garlic or Jamski, as rah said, and as I said in the last thread.

	03-02-2004 19:40									#18
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb There's no way Drogue can be this clueless. He only mentions possible Mafia suspects that are already dead. Either he's too lazy to follow the game (doubtful) or so confident he won't be killed (being the Mafia) that he only shows up every now and then to throw off everyone else.

Please read the posts Ghengis. I was replying to rah, as my post said, who posted:

quote: If the mafia is forced to use a single style, The last non stiletto kill was Herc. Since then Zopp, CapGarlic, and Jamski have been killed. One of them had to be one of the Mafiass. If one mafia isn't allowed to kill the other then that would eliminate CapGarlic.

We were trying to guess who was the mafia who has been killed, and as I said, I think it's most likely Jamski, since I don't think Zop of Capitan Garlic were. I ahve voted for the next mafia already, in the last thread.

Please read the posts before making silly accusations. It was obvious that I was refering to rahs post, and this whole thread has been discussing who the mafia who is already dead was.

	03-02-2004 19:42									#19
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I should have started this thread with a poll =)

	03-02-2004 19:45									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue Yes, as is the first mafia. We were discussing who the mafia who is dead is. It was either Zop, Capitan Garlic or Jamski, as rah said, and as I said in the last thread.

Nice attempt to cover up your slip.

You post makes no mention to the fact that it is a former Mafia you are trying to guess. Its simply the ramblings of a psychotic killer who has already forgotten his multitude of victims.

You ARE getting very defensive now aren't you. Guilty feelings, Mr Mafia?




Edited out color selection, RAH.

	03-02-2004 19:45									#21
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GF, I edited your one post. I have given a gentle reminder already. The White or silver color is almost invisible for those that have a white background. I don't mind if people use a lighter color, but it should at least be readable. Thanks.

	03-02-2004 19:54									#22
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The problem is finding a color that shows up on all the different view settings.

I am trying a ghostly orange, if anyone has a problem reading it let me know and I'll try something else.

	03-02-2004 19:55									#23
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Nice attempt to cover up your slip. You post makes no mention to the fact that it is a former Mafia you are trying to guess. Its simply the ramblings of a psychotic killer who has already forgotten his multitude of victims.

Rah said

quote: To answer question one though, will you deny being one of them, and can we believe you, which I would have a tendency to since you're dead and have nothing to gain.

to Zop, asking if he was the mafia. I posted:

quote: rah: Zop already has denied being the mafia. I think most are convinced it's Jamski.

To answer his question, refering to Zop's post when I asked who the mafia we killed was, when he said he wasn't.

I don't think I need to mention it was the former mafia I was trying to guess when Rah, the person my post was responding too, was discussing that. Look at this thread. Almost every post is talking about the last mafia. I was with Osweld earlier, and Rah stated that he was. Since I was refering to Rah's posts, as the "rah:" at the begining of my post suggests, I would presume that rah, and anyone else reading it, would presume I have suddenly switched to another discussion without mentioning it. I was refering to a post asking whether Zop was the last mafia, which he claims he wasn't.

I don't see what you don't get with it. When someone starts a post with someones name and a colon, it is generally in answer to their question. My post was in answer to rah's, which was asking about the the last mafia. I thought it was blatantly obvious.

	03-02-2004 19:56									#24
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Thanks GF.

And Zop, I guess I didn't read the end of the other thread carefully enough and didn't see drogue's and your posts. I believe you. Didn't realize I was repeating something already covered.

	03-02-2004 20:04									#25
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb You ARE getting very defensive now aren't you. Guilty feelings, Mr Mafia?

Of course I'm getting defensive, as any villiager would when faced with accusations because someone didn't understand that a post I made, begining with "rah:" was refering to a post made by rah, and so was on the same topic. I thought it was blatantly obvious

	03-02-2004 20:06									#26
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Look at Drogue go. The first time we start to pin it on him and he's scrambling around like a scared piece of bacon in a frying pan.

Why would anyone care who the dead Mafia is if they are a simple villager? A villager would be concerned with who the ALIVE mafia is.

Not Drogue, he's posting more about the potential identity of the dead mafia. Obviously unconcerned about the Alive mafia, because its him!

	03-02-2004 20:12									#27
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Yes I'm scrambling around, because you're throwing around accusations that are just silly. If no villiager would be concerned about who the old mafia is, then why did rah ask, why did Osweld and I discuss it at the start of this thread, and why were the questions asked in the last one about who it was?

Nice to see you answer some of my questions, or even possibly respond to my posts, since rah, the person it was intended for, obviously got what was meant.

I know there's two mafia's, I'm pretty sure that Jamski was one of them, and I've already voted for who I think the remaining one is. If you're too stupid to read my posts and understand that it was relating to a discussion with someone else, which was on who the already killed mafia was, then that says a hell of a lot more about you're brainpower than it does about me being the mafia.

	03-02-2004 20:26									#28
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GhengisFarb: Drogue WAS talking about which was the mafia that the villagers just killed. (I mean look at it - how long has it costed you silly villagers to realize the blunt truth that I pointed out 3 posts after the first death!)

But anyway, you are right that what is important is who is the other mafia. And we all understand your anxiety since you were just a new kill (unlike we the others who's already enjoying happily the carefree afterlife).

So is it rah who killed both you and me? I mean what have I done to rah that would cause him to kill me that early? Haven't I been real nice to him and such?

	03-02-2004 20:35									#29
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But you're real nice to everyone

	03-02-2004 20:46									#30
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Exactly. Why would anybody want to kill me is really a question that's beyound me. I mean aren't they afraid of being harrassed by a persistent ghost? (At least I can use the infamous ghost font to death.)

ps. For people who wants to read the ghost font, highlight and read.