05-02-2004 06:47									#1
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Next week, Russia will conduct a simulated nuclear attack on the US as part of a large scale wargame.

I thought the Cold War was over?

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MOSCOW (AP) -- Russia's nuclear forces reportedly are preparing their largest maneuvers in two decades, an exercise involving the test-firing of missiles and flights by dozens of bombers in a massive simulation of an all-out nuclear war.

President Vladimir Putin is expected to personally oversee the maneuvers, which are apparently aimed at demonstrating the revival of the nation's military might and come ahead of Russian elections in March.

The business newspaper Kommersant said the exercise was set for mid-February and would closely resemble a 1982 Soviet exercise dubbed the "seven-hour nuclear war" that put the West on edge.
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	05-02-2004 06:55									#2
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Maybe Putin has a premptive doctrine of his own.

	05-02-2004 06:57									#3
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Oh goody, I can still pretend that one day I can wear that leather jacket with no sleeves and have a dog named "dogmeat" at my side.

	05-02-2004 07:00									#4
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Sounds like Putin's pulling a "Let's go to Mars!" on the Russian people

	05-02-2004 07:09									#5
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Bread for the circus.

	05-02-2004 07:36									#6
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Putin is a madman.

	05-02-2004 07:37									#7
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Putin is a madman.

Indeed, but hardly because of this.

	05-02-2004 07:40									#8
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Funny that you never hear about U.S. wargames. Oh, right, that's because we do it for real.

	05-02-2004 07:44									#9
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Smiley: Last year we had one for faking intelligence, misleading the nation, and invading a random foreign hellhole with lots of oil...oh...wait...

	05-02-2004 07:47									#10
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Smiley: Last year we had one for faking intelligence, misleading the nation, and invading a random foreign hellhole with lots of oil...oh...wait...

Aaaaaaaa. I think I remember a thread about it.

	05-02-2004 07:50									#11
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How are these essays simulating a "nuclear war with the US"? Are unarmed missiles supposed to land on American territory? Is the US quoted as a "simulated" target at all?

I'm against these essays, especially in an electoral context It just means Russians have been brainwashed to love seeing they can spill foreigner's blood

	05-02-2004 07:56									#12
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Actually, it's probalby more to pander to the hardliners who want to see the Soviet Union reconstituted and the military built up again.
Usually at the expense of the people

	05-02-2004 08:22									#13
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And who else in the world would the Russian Strategic Forces go 'all out' against?

God save us, and let Him ensure that those antique systems are working properly. We really don't need any 'oops, there it goes.'

I'm not even a theist, really, but I'll take whatever assurances I can get against a revival of nuclear insanity.

	05-02-2004 08:27									#14
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"Do you want to play a game?"

	05-02-2004 08:29									#15
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither And who else in the world would the Russian Strategic Forces go 'all out' against?

China. Don't forget they were the most bitter enemies for decades, even more bitter than between US and USSR.

	05-02-2004 08:31									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe "Do you want to play a game?"

I liked that movie.

	05-02-2004 08:31									#17
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China would not really be all-out, would they?

Yes, they have strategic weapons, however they do not have the quantity and or quality to warrant 'all out' by Russian or American standards.

'All out' means one thing and one thing only for the US and Russia. Each other.

	05-02-2004 09:05									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe "Do you want to play a game?"

How about a nice game of chess?

No, I want to play Global Thermonuclear War.

(I paraphrased the second line)

	05-02-2004 09:22									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor China. Don't forget they were the most bitter enemies for decades, even more bitter than between US and USSR.

That has changed.

	05-02-2004 09:51									#20
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We should play our preemtive strike game.

	05-02-2004 10:11									#21
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I hope their is a nuclear war tomorrow

	05-02-2004 10:13									#22
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Nuc war tomorrow? Well, I guess I'd better get some sleep.

	05-02-2004 10:19									#23
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat I thought the Cold War was over?

Is that why they are throwing money into that bottomless hole called NMD?

	05-02-2004 10:21									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Is that why they are throwing money into that bottomless hole called NMD?

I bet this is Russia's response to Bush's budget...

"we need missile defense because of terror!"

"we need an advanced stealth fighter because of terror!"

9-11 has been used to justify EVERYTHING... it sickens me. I hope Washington gets nuked... all of Congress dies and every cabinet member. **** em...

	05-02-2004 10:23									#25
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quote: I can still pretend that one day I can wear that leather jacket with no sleeves and have a dog named "dogmeat" at my side.

	05-02-2004 11:25									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I bet this is Russia's response to Bush's budget... "we need missile defense because of terror!" "we need an advanced stealth fighter because of terror!" 9-11 has been used to justify EVERYTHING... it sickens me. I hope Washington gets nuked... all of Congress dies and every cabinet member. **** em...

Did anyone ever tell you that you make Newsmaxians look like calm and rational people?

	05-02-2004 13:09									#27
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Good news

You people are such hypocrites, it's amazing. But I won't lower myself to your level and claim that this is against the rogue states or so.

	05-02-2004 13:16									#28
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any one else open up this thread hoping some russian computer game company was designing a cool new computer game where you can wipe out civilization in a very graphic way?

	05-02-2004 13:17									#29
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Putin is bringing back the empire. There is little doubt about it, as far as I see it. The real question is: will it benefit the russian people

	05-02-2004 13:20									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I bet this is Russia's response to Bush's budget... "we need missile defense because of terror!" "we need an advanced stealth fighter because of terror!" 9-11 has been used to justify EVERYTHING... it sickens me. I hope Washington gets nuked... all of Congress dies and every cabinet member. **** em...

hmm,

you ever think that Bush is paying Putin money to put this show of force on to garner more support for his crappy missile defense system?

how's that for a conspiracy theory?