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Berzerker
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
time: 23:33
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John Kerry - war hero, multiple purple hearts etc, and the crew working hardest for him comprised of the men who served under him in Vietnam, many of whom are Republicans.
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George Bush - passing time in the "Champaign" division of the Texas Air National Guard flying obsolete planes no longer in use in Vietnam, and apparently awol from duty in Alabama for roughly a year or more.
I don't know, that's going to be tough for Bush and Rove to overcome. If Kerry wasn't such a liberal weenie I'd be tempted to vote for him. But Bush has cured me of any illusions of voting for him, the man signs spending bills like a liberal weenie. No, even worse! My God he is pathetic, after allowing spending to go through the roof, he gives a state of the union speech urging Congress to curb spending and then announces how he will use his veto pen, not to curb spending (which he hasn't done once yet to my knowledge), but to prevent any spending reductions in his prescription drug giveaway. Great! The veto pen will be used to prevent any semblance of fiscal responsibility...
And who does Bush have shilling for him? Rush "my anal cyst hurts" Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly, both "chickenhawks". Guys who just love wars as long as they aren't fighting them... And then there's Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich's good friend at Fox News who, while Clinton was cheating on Hillary, was cheating on his wife and divorcing her while she was in the hospital with cancer. Sean likes reminding everyone almost daily about "Slick Willie" and his sexual exploits but never mentions Newt's behavior (or Bob Livingston's, another adulterer and Fox News contributor).
God these 2 parties can make a bottle of Pepto Bismol upchuck it's contents.
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Berzerker
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
time: 23:33
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Spiffor - the Libertarian candidate of course  If I vote for either the Dems or Repubs I'm giving my tacit approval to the future incarceration of millions of people for drug use and I can't do that.
Mr Fun and Sava - I know about his family fortune and all that, I was just referring to his down home style.
Asleep - quote:
I dislike GWB as much as the next guy (assuming that guy is moderate-left that is ) but I just don't see this as being a salient point in the election. This election is more a referendum on the first presidency, not on GWB pre white house. At most Kerry can effectively use his war hero status to counter the GWB WoT record, etc. At most his past is a response to what GWB has done. The air national guard bit won't win or lose a single vote. |
It will cost him votes when put up against Kerry's record. There are vets who served with Kerry, including Repubs, who are supporting him. Hell, even Don Imus' wife is supporting him and she's conservative. My mother is extremely conservative and she's going to vote for him (not because of this though, but because she hates the Patriot Act and Ashcroft). But true, I can't see why Dems would care who was or wasn't a vet (except now that it favors their candidate) and the Repubs sure didn't let McCain's exploits in Vietnam lure them away from Bush. However, if this election is close and I'm getting the sense it will be, those vets switching to Kerry might just be the difference.
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Capt Dizle
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I have been amazed by the folks here who think that a Bush-Kerry race will be competitive. But, and I hit myself on the side of the head when I realized this, from the perspective of the median poster here why shouldn't it be close.
The median poster here is young, more radical in their views than the public at large. We have a huge foreign voice here that the public at large never hears.
Few people here voted for Bush last time. People here have an axe to grind with Bush. Most people here are upset about the war. Most people in the public at large supported the war and will support the continued occupation of Iraq for at least another presidential term.
The political center, as defined by the majority here, would be found just off the left edge of the map being used by the American public.
Sure, you folks think Kerry has a chance. I think he better hold on to his senate seat.
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05-02-2004 18:29
) but I just don't see this as being a salient point in the election. This election is more a referendum on the first presidency, not on GWB pre white house. At most Kerry can effectively use his war hero status to counter the GWB WoT record, etc. At most his past is a response to what GWB has done. The air national guard bit won't win or lose a single vote.
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