15-05-2004 07:42									#151
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1x1 Game 28 Turn 39 Nukeboy > Checkmate

	15-05-2004 20:07									#152
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quote: Originally posted by MILAMBER 2x2 game 4 turn 59 1)milamber 2)dancmasseuse 3)birdy 4)hatschys

Birdman is not playing in this game

	15-05-2004 20:16									#153
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1x1 Nimrod vs Keygen Turn 89

The Ancients (Keygen) > Spies (Nimrod)

2x2 The Ancients (TheBirdMan, Keygen) vs Mockers Revenge (dancemasseuse, MILAMBER) Turn 69

1. Keygen
2. MILAMBER
3. dancemasseuse
4. TheBirdMan

	15-05-2004 20:22									#154
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I claim a 4x PG victory over Nimrod in turn 90.

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	15-05-2004 20:24									#155
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And here's the turn for review:

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	15-05-2004 20:31									#156
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Note that the PBEM Mod was used so the bonus should be 7 points.

	15-05-2004 20:53									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen I claim a 4x PG victory over Nimrod in turn 90.

OUUUCH

	15-05-2004 21:04									#158
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actually you need to hold the 4xPG for one turn AFAIK, but i dont think this would be a problem according to the PG.

	16-05-2004 07:06									#159
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looking at the turn it will be 5 or 6x in just a few more turns
ouch and i think that is going to start happening to me in our 1x1 game
oops that would be GAv in the 3 spot not birdy

	17-05-2004 02:02									#160
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In fact I am pretty confident that there would not be any Roman city (Nimrod's civ) left by the time we would reach turn 99

Good gaming there Nimrod
He was ahead for several turns but most important his technological level was higher than mine.
He did the same mistake Hatschy did in our 1x1 game, he didn't start building adequate number of units to defend himself in a possible attack on my behalf when the first contact occured. Instead he kept building city improvements and new cities. There were lot of plains between me and him so it was a matter of time until the cavalry would take action and save the day

	17-05-2004 04:57									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen In fact I am pretty confident that there would not be any Roman city (Nimrod's civ) left by the time we would reach turn 99

Double or nothing on this claim Keygen?

It was a good game Keygen and yes that was my mistake. I doo hope to play again someday.

	17-05-2004 17:06									#162
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I have already claimed victory so I can't accept - and for other reasons - but for the sake of fun and to verify this we could play 8-9 more turns and see if I am right. I do have spotted several cities of yours in the west, east and northeast and I am able to explore the south as well in no time.

I'd be happy to play you in a 1x1 PBEM Challenge Ladder game anytime in the future but not for the next few weeks as I expect to finish some of the games I currently play.

	18-05-2004 00:06									#163
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Super League Game 60

1x1 Turn 269 Nukeboy > Birdman

	18-05-2004 00:10									#164
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quote: Originally posted by Nuke Boy Super League Game 60 1x1 Turn 269 Nukeboy > Birdman

what turn ?

	18-05-2004 00:13									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician what turn ?

Turn 269

	18-05-2004 00:22									#166
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quote: Originally posted by Nuke Boy Turn 269

WHAT turn ?

	18-05-2004 00:27									#167
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician WHAT turn ?

I don't understand

	18-05-2004 01:01									#168
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hehe. i was just surprised and couldnt believe you got that far. the question was merely rethorical

	18-05-2004 01:27									#169
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen And here's the turn for review:

I cant download the save file

	18-05-2004 01:42									#170
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downloaded and mailed.

	18-05-2004 06:06									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen I have already claimed victory so I can't accept - and for other reasons - but for the sake of fun and to verify this we could play 8-9 more turns and see if I am right. I do have spotted several cities of yours in the west, east and northeast and I am able to explore the south as well in no time. I'd be happy to play you in a 1x1 PBEM Challenge Ladder game anytime in the future but not for the next few weeks as I expect to finish some of the games I currently play.

I will challenge that claim if you want Keygen. Giving you an excuse to continue for those 8-9 turns. Honestly, I dont think you can. You will need to take an average of 2.5 cities per turn. Unless you are really interested in keeping it up, there is no need. However if you do, I will play to the end.

	18-05-2004 16:08									#172
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2.5 cities per turn would mean that you still have 19-20 cities. I have captured or anihilated 22 cities so far if I remember correctly so that would mean that you should have built 40-41. Is that true?

In turn 90 I captured "Nicomedia", "Virconium1" and "Tarentum1".
I have also spotted "Vindonissa", "Genua", "Viminiacium", "Tarentum", "Antium1", "Hispalis", "Rome1", "Argentoratum", "Londinium1", "Agrippina" and "Eburacum1". I can capture all of the above in 8 turns the most and several others if they're near the above cities I mentioned.

I have 29 cavalry, 14 fascists and 6 fighters plus some other lower value units, near the fore mentioned cities. I will have 11 more fighters within the next 2 turns and 7 more within the next 5 turns.

Unless you have a city built within a mountain range that can't be crossed by cavalry or in a place far away from the fore mentioned cities and with careful calculations I could have taken all the above cities plus some more (few) if they're near.

	19-05-2004 07:56									#173
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Fairly accurate estiments. I will let you know as of my turn 91, I have 19 cities.

	19-05-2004 18:25									#174
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OK Nimrod, here's the deal.

If I don't take all your cities before turn 100 (turn 99 is valid) then in our upcomming 1x1 PBEM Challenge Ladder game you will begin with one more settler but the PBEM Mod will be used (I will alter the code so that you get the additional benefit) or kill a settler of mine if I won't find a way to get you an additional settler with the PBEM used. If I take all your cities before turn 100 then we shall begin with the same number of settlers.

Note that if we continue up to turn 100 regardless of the result, this will not affect our SuperLeague 1x1 game meaning that I am the winner and that will not change (plus the bonus for winning under turn 100).

	19-05-2004 18:33									#175
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if you make such an agreement for the challenge ladder, please post it there too so that quinns is aware of it and can approve or contradict.
so far all settings agreements have been symmetric. not sure if this one is okay.

	20-05-2004 02:41									#176
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It should be ok if both agree to it, shouldn't it?

©Dimytes 2004

	20-05-2004 08:24									#177
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A friendly bet is fine by me. When we start our 1x1 PBEM Challenge, we will be on even ground, regardless of the outcome of this game. I was just trying to make a loop hole to prevent such a horrible lose

	20-05-2004 15:39									#178
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quote: Originally posted by Dimytes It should be ok if both agree to it, shouldn't it?

as long as the starting conditions (at least those under control of the players) are equal. i feel that those handicap agreements are somewhat contrary to the spirit and also the relevance of a ranking system, be it ladder or point based.

	20-05-2004 20:04									#179
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Some reporting:

1x1 #7, Protoss72000 vs Hatschy: Hatschy leading at turns 169 and 179.

1x1 #29, FlameFlash vs Hatschy: Hatschy leading at turn 39.

2x2 #3, Raging Hordes vs ELF, ranking at turn 69:
1. Gavrushka
2. Hatschy
3. Mathemagician
4. ricketyClik

2x2 #1, Raging Hordes vs SAR, ranking at turn 49:
1. Gavrushka
2. Hatschy
3. FlameFlash
4. Gumpold

2x2 #6, Raging Hordes vs Spys, ranking at turn 39:
1. Hatschy
2. Nimrod
3. checkMate
4. Gavrushka

	21-05-2004 01:41									#180
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quote: Originally posted by Nimrod When we start our 1x1 PBEM Challenge, we will be on even ground, regardless of the outcome of this game.

This is the best way to play the PBEM Challenge Match, in my opinion. That is, with no handicap to either player. Maybe Keygen could change his PBEM Challenge handicap bet to a MONETARY bet in your current game? (Not that I condone gambling, mind you ... )