09-03-2001 04:38									#1
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West European Empire (MOBIUS) 2 BUILDS

A Paris - Metz
A Belgium S A Ruhr
A Ruhr S A Belgium
F Spain - Gulf of Lyon
F Lombardy - Rome

South American Empire (Midshipman) 5 BUILDS

F Venezuela Settles
A Amazonia - Brasilia
F Carribean - Northeast Trades
A Honduras Holds
A Argentina Settles
F Gulf of Panama - Gulf of California
A Panama - Costa Rica

Kingdom of Khitaia (RUFFHAUS8) 4 BUILDS

A Omsk - Perm
A Krasnoyarsk - Omsk
A Nei Mongol supports A Beijing - hold
A Beijing Settles
A Harbin - Mongolia
F Okhotsk Sea - Kamchakta
F Taiwan Settles
F Phillipine Sea - Luzon
F Bismark Sea - Marshall Islands
F Izu Trench - Bismark Sea
F Kuril Trench - Izu Trench

Zulu Empire (Chazzy) 3 BUILDS

F Gulf of Guinea - Nigeria
F Angola - Congo
F Horn of Africa Convoys A Seychelles - Mogadishu
A Seychelles - Mogadishu

Fighting Sioux (Defiant) 4 BUILDS

A Anchorage Settles
F California Current - Hawaii
A Mexico - Mazatlan
F Merida S F New Orleans - Gulf of Mexico
A Washington - New York (bounce with A Quebec)
A Florida - Washington (bounce, dislodged, can retreat to New Orleans or St. Louis)
F New Orleans - Gulf of Mexico

Qing Dynasty (LordStone) 4 BUILDS

A Karachi - Bombay
F Bay of Bengal - Ceylon
F Singapore Settles
A Borneo Settles
F Sunda Holds
F Bangledesh Holds
A Assam - Tibet (move fails 2v3)
A Qinghai S A Assam - Tibet (fails)
A Wuhan Settles
A Hefei Settles
F Shanghai - Nanjing
A Guangxi Holds

Holy Roman Empire (Victor) 6 BUILDS

F Northwest Passage - Greenland
F North Atlantic - Azores
F Glasgow - Ireland
F North Sea Convys A Bremen - Rouen
A Bremen - Rouen
A Berlin - Bremen
A Bayern - Stuttgart
A Austria - Switzerland
F Sweden - Norway
A Finland - Leningrad
A Byelarus - Moscow
A Yugoslavia - Tirana (bounce with F Greece)
A Rumania - Yugoslavia (bounce with A Yugoslavia)
A Sevastpol - Caucasus

Kingdom of Australia (Napoleon) 2 BUILDS

F Tasman Sea - Antarctic Pacific
F South Pacific - Fiji
F Timor Sea - New Guinea

Kingdom of Persia (Hodad) 4 BUILDS

A Turkmenistan - Taskant
A Taskant - Xinjiang
A Xinjiang - Tibet
A Kashmir S A Xinjiang - Tibet
A Delhi S A Xinjiang - Tibet
F Persian Gulf - Arabian Sea
F Oman S F Persian Gulf - Arabian Sea
F Cairo Holds (unordered)
A Van Holds (unordered)
A Damascus Holds (unordered)

Ottoman Empire (Milop) NO BUILDS

F Greece - Tirana (bounce with A Yugoslavia)
F Bulgaria Holds
A Ankara S F Greece (invalid support)
F Aegean Sea S A Malatya
A Malatya S A Damascus

Iroquois Confederation (made up by GM, rolling dice) 1 BUILD

F Chesapeake Bay - Florida (bounce)
A Quebec - New York (bounce with A Washington)

Republic of Panama (made up by GM, rolling dice) 1 BUILD

F Haiti - Cuba

Supply Center Count

140 SUPPLY CENTERS TOTAL, 71 NEEDED for VICTORY

Holy Roman Empire (20)

BERLIN, BREMEN, DRESDEN, DENMARK, CZECHESLOVAKIA, POLAND, LITHUANIA, SWEDEN, LONDON, SEVASTOPOL, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Norway, Yugoslavia, Greenland, Azores, Ireland, Sttugart, Leningrad, Moscow

Qing Dynasty (16)

HANOI, BURMA, THAILAND, MALAYSIA, SINGAPORE, GUANGXI, SHANGHAI, WUHAN, HEFEI, SICHUAN, QINGHAI, BORNEO, Nanjing, Bombay, Ceylon, Saigon

Kingdom of Khitaia (15)

TOKYO, SAPPORO, SEOUL, HARBIN, BEIJING, TAIWAN, IRKUTSK, Omsk, Mongolia, Kamchakta, Kagoshima, Okinawa, Luzon, Caroline Islands, Marshall Islands

Kingdom of Persia (14)

TEHRAN, DAMASCUS, PALESTINE, ESFAHAN, OMAN, PAKISTAN, TIBET, Tashkant, Delhi, Kashmir, Bandar, Iraq, Cairo, Van

South American Empire (12)

CARTAGENA, BOGATA, BEUNAVENTURA, MITU, PERU, PANAMA, HONDURAS, COSTA RICA, ARGENTINA, Venezuela, Brasilia, Bolivia

Fighting Sioux (11)

SAN FRANSISCO, NEW ORLEANS, ST. LOUIS, MICHIGAN, WASHINGTON, MEXICO CITY, MERIDA, ANCHORAGE, Hawaii, Oregon, Mazatlan

Western European Empire (7)

PARIS, NANTES, MARSEILLE, SPAIN, Belgium, Portugal, Rome

Zulu Empire (7)

CAPE TOWN, ORANGE FREE STATE, SEYCHELLES, Madagascar, Nigeria, Congo, Mogadishu

Kingdom of Australia (6)

NORTHERN TERRITORY, QUEENSLAND, SYDNEY, NEW ZEALAND, Fiji, New Guinea

Ottoman Empire (5)

ANKARA, ORDU, ANTALYA, Greece, Bulgaria

Iroquois Confederation (4)

QUEBEC, NEW YORK, TORONTO

Republic of Panama (2)

HAITI, Cuba

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Not bad... no NMRS. I took the liberty of doing the supply center count. As always, please check for errors. A retreat is needed from Defiant, and builds will be due on Monday, March 11, 2001. Please send moves to lokinyeung@home.com .
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	12-03-2001 01:10									#2
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Can we have a map, Defiant?

	12-03-2001 04:03									#3
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I'm working on it, it will be up tonight

	12-03-2001 04:07									#4
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Also, there is no retreat from me needed it all bounces, there was no support in taking over Florida, just one ole'big bounce

	12-03-2001 05:44									#5
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I must have gotten confused with that one.... So A Florida stays where it is?

	13-03-2001 00:33									#6
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Map is still on its way, only have three countries left, couldn't do anymore at lunch will finish tonight, yes Florida and all stay right where it is and Iriquois only have one build.

	13-03-2001 02:26									#7
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Shadowstrike,
Florida is not an SC, you have it listed as one, WarVoid settled it but it is no SC.

	13-03-2001 04:38									#8
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Map:
http://fp.geocities.com/defiant003/civilf3602.gif

Please check for errors, thank you and one note

Shadowstrike, no unit can support a unit to hold that is attacking the order A-Ankara s F-Greece is invalid cause Greece was going to Tir, now A-ankara can go to Greece in case of opposition trying to take it, but it can not support an attacking unit for defensive.

	13-03-2001 06:00									#9
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Firstly F Ion, should be in Rom.

Secondly, here are my builds:

F Lon
F Sev
A Cze
A Pol
A Lit
A Dre

	13-03-2001 06:07									#10
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I must have thought that was counted as a defensive support if Greece got attacked. That's why it bounced, IIRC. Oh well, I suppose that you are right.... I'll change that.... And yes, as Victor pointed out F ion is in Rom, it was accidentally moved their from Lombardy due a mistake on my part.

Yes, your builds have been recieved Victor.

EDIT: Defiant... I can't see that map for some strange reason... It might be Geocities... Anyone else have problems with Geocities?

2nd EDIT: Never mind.... Refreshing the page did the trick...
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	13-03-2001 07:44									#11
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Yea, it seems Geocities has change their rule again, if you put www where fp is, it will show up.

	13-03-2001 07:52									#12
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I just noticed a small problem on the map. It seems that the supply center icons for Berlin and Dresden are no longer there. I suppose that it was accidentally covered by a unit, and when the unit moved, the center icon vanished too... This happens to me a lot when I'm fiddling with graphics...

	13-03-2001 07:58									#13
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You are right Shadow, i will fix them in the builds stage, damn small countries

	13-03-2001 08:15									#14
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Say, Defiant, do you suppose we could cooperate on this map? I mean we have this nice large ocean separating us, and no centers to fight over... do you think that's possible, or are we cursed to forever fight?

	13-03-2001 18:40									#15
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Victor,
Like everything else, if we have a plan that benefits us both I am willing to work with you, no invasion of each others territory OR "wanting to land a force on a non-SC territory" for support. Anything else more in depth we should talk over ICQ or email.

	14-03-2001 03:05									#16
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Since making everyone forfiet their builds would result in an unbalencing situation, I'm going to delay the deadline for builds to Wednesday, March 14, 2001, Midnight, Eastern time. That's approximately 31 hours from the time I make this post.

	14-03-2001 03:53									#17
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"Since making everyone forfiet their builds would result in an unbalencing situation"

-You do have mine right? (looks higher up in the thread... yeah, they're there.)

	14-03-2001 05:41									#18
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Well, I was going to say "everyone but Victor" but I decided against it, in case you might take offense... Yes, I have yours.

	14-03-2001 05:57									#19
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Persian Builds

A (Teh)
F (Pal)
A (Esf)
A (Pak)

Can i build units in Tib?

	14-03-2001 06:56									#20
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Yes, but you have a unit there right now.... Moves recieved.

	14-03-2001 07:23									#21
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Builds for Fighting Sioux
A-mic
F-NOL
F-SFR
A-MEX

	14-03-2001 07:27									#22
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Recieved. Thanks...