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@Potassium:

Oooh!
Bask in the hero worship!

Pitiful.

You will have to do a bit better than that, kiddo.

I have yet to be moved by any of these lame attempts at wit.

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Perhaps these people have not a clue what they talk about, as neither the misguided apologists who defend them.

I would agree you have not a clue what you're talking about, but I don't see any apologists idiotic enough to defend you.

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People who hurl insults over the net tend to be impotent figures who cannot find a safe outlet to do so in real life.

I assure you, I'm not impotent.
And if you find "idiot" particularly insulting, you've got to get out more.

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quote:
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@Potassium:

Oooh!
Bask in the hero worship!

Pitiful.

You will have to do a bit better than that, kiddo.

I have yet to be moved by any of these lame attempts at wit.

I'm curious, since you've taken the position of the moral high-ground, why is your next post nothing but immature sarcasm with an "LOL" and degrading another person's comments by referring to them as "kiddo".

Peculiar. At which point do I have enough evidence to call you an idiot before it's rubber-stamped by you?

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I would agree you have not a clue what you're talking about, but I don't see any apologists idiotic enough to defend you.


I don't need a sad little fan club like you chaps.


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I assure you, I'm not impotent.


Did I hit a raw nerve?



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And if you find "idiot" particularly insulting, you've got to get out more.


I find any name to be insulting.

You'll find I never hurl names.

You see, calling people idiots, etc is the last gasp defence of the mentally challenged.

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@Potassium:

Oooh!
Bask in the hero worship!

Pitiful.

joke Pronunciation Key (jk)
n.
1. Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
2. A mischievous trick; a prank.
3. An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal.
4. Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
a. An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock:

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I find any name to be insulting.

You'll find I never hurl names.

You see, calling people idiots, etc is the last gasp defence of the mentally challenged.

So, calling me "kiddo" doesn't fall into the "name calling" category?

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I don't need a sad little fan club like you chaps.

I need a fan club? Where is it?

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Did I hit a raw nerve?

Actually, it is a little sore. Maybe a bit swollen.

Which one are we talking about, anyway? Either way it works.


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I find any name to be insulting.

You must've been terrified of the teachers taking attendance in primary school.

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You see, calling people idiots, etc is the last gasp defence of the mentally challenged.

Please tell me this was intentional?

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I'm curious, since you've taken the position of the moral high-ground, why is your next post nothing but immature sarcasm with an "LOL" and degrading another person's comments by referring to them as "kiddo".


I didn't take any position.
That is a product of your twisted view of things.

I used LOL because the comment was worthy of such degradtion.


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Originally posted by Asher Peculiar. At which point do I have enough evidence to call you an idiot before it's rubber-stamped by you?


The point where mummy tells you to get off the internet.

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So, calling me "kiddo" doesn't fall into the "name calling" category?


Nice try.
It's a term of recognition.

I don't do name calling on moderated sites.

Given the chance, you beginners would know what insults are.

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The point where mummy tells you to get off the internet.

Again, with the age insulting...

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@Asher:

Your attempts at wit are not too terrible.

With a few decades practice, you might even be funny.

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quote:
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I didn't take any position.
That is a product of your twisted view of things.

You didn't take a position? So what are you arguing?

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I used LOL because the comment was worthy of such degradtion.

You see, LOLing, etc is the last gasp defence of the mentally challenged.

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The point where mummy tells you to get off the internet.

I love it, get mad at me for calling you an "idiot", then display your idiocy by insulting indirectly -- obviously not noticing they're the same thing.

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@Potassium:

You call people idiots, then get all thin-skinned.

That is nursery school mentality, what treatment do you expect?

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@Asher:

Your attempts at wit are not too terrible.

With a few decades practice, you might even be funny.

I can only hope to be as funny as you are.

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Mummy says it's 5am and I need to go to bed if I wanna catch Seasme Street tomorrow, so I'm going to go to bed after I give her a vaginal massage.

Goodnight.

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You didn't take a position? So what are you arguing?


I'm not arguing.

I currently engaged in a pointless discussion with some Americans.


quote:
Originally posted by Asher You see, LOLing, etc is the last gasp defence of the mentally challenged.


Impersonating my posts will get you nowhere...


quote:
Originally posted by Asher I love it, get mad at me for calling you an "idiot", then display your idiocy by insulting indirectly -- obviously not noticing they're the same thing.


Obviously some things are not apparent over the net.

I am not in anyway annoyed.

Why would I?

Do you think I am some weepy goth with stripy tights and makeup?

Just leading you chaps along, for the sheer amusement of it.

You keep taking the bait.

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Edit: ^^^^ Asher is Canadian.

And at some point, should we ever stop bickering with you, all you'll do is claim some worthless victory.

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@Potassium:

You call people idiots, then get all thin-skinned.

That is nursery school mentality, what treatment do you expect?
Thin-skinned? When did this occur? Hm. Must not be getting enough sun.

And again, you fail to see your insults are exactly the same as ours. You're insulting us because you're apparently so much more aged and wisened. And that apparently makes your insults a-otay! ^_^ !

gg

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I can only hope to be as funny as you are.


Perhaps in your later years...

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I'm not arguing.

I currently engaged in a pointless discussion with some Americans.

American? What kind of idiot thinks Calgary, Alberta is in America? Does that flag look like the stars and stripes?

quote:
Obviously some things are not apparent over the net.

I am not in anyway annoyed.

Why would I?

Do you think I am some weepy goth with stripy tights and makeup?

Just leading you chaps along, for the sheer amusement of it.

You keep taking the bait.

I'm not sure what you're on, I never said you were annoyed. I said you are an idiot, which you clearly are.

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Mummy says it's 5am and I need to go to bed if I wanna catch Seasme Street tomorrow, so I'm going to go to bed after I give her a vaginal massage.

Goodnight.


Now that was funny!

Enjoy yourself.

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American? What kind of idiot thinks Calgary, Alberta is in America? Does that flag look like the stars and stripes?


Well your country has American culture.

Soon you will be joining them.


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Originally posted by Asher I'm not sure what you're on, I never said you were annoyed. I said you are an idiot, which you clearly are.


A moose must have kicked you in the head as a kid.

Go and see you mother, she's waiting for her massage.

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Now this silliness has gone on long enough.

I called none of you idiots etc, that was one-sided from Asher and Pottasium.

No more dumb comments or bickering from any of us.

I wish to put the thread back on topic.

Question:
So are bands justified in turning their backs on the fanbase that popularised them?


PS
I want to make clear that I have nothing against a band being 'popular', as the term has many meanings...

The bigger a band, the easier it is to get hold of merchandise.
And there is room for all types of music, dammit.

OK?

Let's move on...

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Bend over like that for me. I dare you.






Seriously, I, too, am sick of that people judging music as it were watermellons, or something, "the heavier, the better". Or presenting the low number of albums sold as something good. The number of albums sold has, sadly, very little to do with the quality of the music, one way, or the other.

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@Azazel:

I never got the chance to say that I totally agree with that.

I listen to everything from light power metal to death metal.

I embrace all rock types.

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How very varied and eclectic.

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I do try.

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Question:
So are bands justified in turning their backs on the fanbase that popularised them?


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

Evanescence was not popularized by the Christian fanbase! They were pigeonholed there!

Look, here is the bio from their site, quoted word for word

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Although the band's name may suggest a sudden vanishing, the music of Evanescence is poised for longevity. Fallen, the Wind-up Records debut of this talented quartet from Little Rock, Arkansas, is an emotional, ethereal work of undeniable potency guided by the heavenly vocals of Amy Lee. "We're definitely a rock band," says the 20-year-old Lee. "But the twist is that the band's music is epic, dramatic, dark rock."

Co-founders Lee and guitarist/songwriter Ben Moody met while in their early teens. "We were at a youth camp," Moody recalls. "During some sort of recreational period held in a gymnasium, I heard Amy playing Meat Loaf's 'I'd Do Anything for Love' at the piano. So I went over to meet her, and she started singing for me. I was pretty much blown away, so I suckered her into joining a band with me." Since that day, the musical relationship has remained dependably loyal. "We have the same exact vision regarding what we love about music," Moody says. "When it comes to songwriting, we finish each other's thoughts."

Evanescence first took shape in Little Rock at the end of the '90s. Predictably, the band didn't quite fit the mold of most others lingering around the Midwestern state. "It's typically death metal or really soft, older-people music there," says Lee. "I don't even know of any local bands that have female singers."

Influenced by a wide-ranging collection of artists such as Bjork, Danny Elfman and Tori Amos, the band started releasing EPs of its material. Even without the benefit of live performances, Evanescence began to establish a reputation.

"A lot of it developed by being elusive," Moody remembers. "The second song we ever wrote was this seven-minute, ridiculous Goth anthem called 'Understanding.' And for some reason, the local rock station decided to play it a lot. We gained this popularity around town, even though no one knew who we were or where to find us. It was because we could never afford to play a show -- it was just Amy and I -- and we couldn't pay any musicians."

Fallen was tracked in Los Angeles with producer Dave Fortman (BOYSETSFIRE, Superjoint Ritual). The album successfully finds that intangible balance between lush beauty and primal heaviness. Typical of the record is the first single, "Bring Me To Life," a piano ballad-turned-riff-driven barnburner. Highlighted by a guest vocal from Paul McCoy of 12 Stones, the song is featured prominently in the Daredevil film and soundtrack.

"'Bring Me To Life' is about discovering something or someone that awakens a feeling inside them that they've never had before," says Moody. He continued, "You discover there is a world that is bigger than just your safe bubble." Also significant is the vibrant anthem "Tourniquet" and the eerie "Haunted," with its pummeling beats and jarring melodies (augmented by chamber choir arrangements courtesy of Lee). Of the latter, Moody asserts, "It's the song that is the most 'us'. That best sums up what we strive to sound like."

Lyrically, Evanescence explores dark, introspective themes of love, desperation, and despair. But the group insists its fundamental message is a positive one. "The point of this whole record and band is to let people know that they're not alone in dealing with bad feelings or pain or anything that they go through," says Lee, who pens most of the words. "That's life and that's human. They're not alone, and we're going through it, too."

Live, Evanescence functions as a quartet with John LeCompt (guitar) and Rocky Gray (drums) rounding out the line-up. "As a four-piece, we are able to carry out the intricate harmonies and orchestrations of the memorable material on Fallen," Moody emphasizes. "We're very sincere about what we do. There's so much pre-packaged teen angst these days in music. That's not us. We're not trying to sell an angle, we're just here writing from our heart."


They got popular because "Bring Me To Life" was put on the "Daredevil" soundtrack, NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY CHRISTIAN. AAAAGH.

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How very varied and eclectic.


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How very varied and eclectic.

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@Potassium:

Don't cry.

Now, blame the article, not me.

I am merely the person who posted the link.

 
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