09-02-2004 15:04									#121
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quote: "Hi, guys, we're Metallica. You may remember us from such songs as 'Master of Puppets,' 'One,' 'For Whom the Bell Tolls,' and 'Turn the Page,' just to name a few. I know we've been one of the best and longest-standing metal bands, but with this album, we really thought it was time to appeal to the nu-metal crowd, and thus experimenting with a style that does not fit us in the least. We really should have the crap beaten out of us for making such a bad album."

I think you're too harsh. I didn't love the album, but they deserve points for audacity.

	09-02-2004 15:20									#122
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Actually, I think some of St Anger works live. Musically it's pretty crap, but Frantic get's crouds, even ones who don't like St Anger, going. Wouldn't listen to the album though.

	09-02-2004 15:35									#123
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I have "My Immortal" as the ringtone on my cellphone.

	09-02-2004 15:39									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I have "My Immortal" as the ringtone on my cellphone.

There is no helping some people...

	09-02-2004 15:46									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue Actually, I think some of St Anger works live. Musically it's pretty crap, but Frantic get's crouds, even ones who don't like St Anger, going. Wouldn't listen to the album though.

i have to agree with you. "unnammed feeling" isn't too terrible either. there's evidence of actual songwriting somewhere in there.

	09-02-2004 21:33									#126
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Let's see... bands named in this thread so far:

Evanescence - suck
Lacuna Coil - suck (mostly due to that guy in the band that thinks he's a happy vampire)
Linkin Park - not quite suck but close (they basically wrote one song and made it 30)
Creed - suck
POD - suck
Metallica - suck (but didn't used to, pre Black album they rocked), also IIRC St. Anger is more Bob Rock's fault then Metallica's.

This hasn't been too good of a thread so far. And has anyone else noticed that when someone insults Asher he starts talking about his penis?

[rant]Why doesn't anyone hear ever discuss good music? It can be popular and still be good. I'm amazed at how many people like The Mars Volta, though At the Drive-In was better. How come I am the only freakin' Mike Patton fan on the entire site? How can so many people like Linkin Park?[/rant]

	09-02-2004 21:56									#127
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Opeth

	09-02-2004 23:29									#128
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Let's see... bands named in this thread so far: Evanescence - suck Lacuna Coil - suck (mostly due to that guy in the band that thinks he's a happy vampire) Linkin Park - not quite suck but close (they basically wrote one song and made it 30) Creed - suck POD - suck Metallica - suck (but didn't used to, pre Black album they rocked), also IIRC St. Anger is more Bob Rock's fault then Metallica's. This hasn't been too good of a thread so far. And has anyone else noticed that when someone insults Asher he starts talking about his penis?

You missed
Five Iron Frenzy - awesome
Relient K - good

	09-02-2004 23:30									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Combat Ingrid Opeth

2nd best band EVER That's more like it.

	09-02-2004 23:32									#130
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay You missed Five Iron Frenzy - awesome Relient K - good

Oops. Actually I haven't heard enough of either of these bands to make a judgement yet.

	10-02-2004 01:14									#131
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling I know what you mean, Namaste. I stuck with Megadeth through the 'Risk' era. Good to see Dave Mustaine may be making a comeback from his injury.

really? I thought the were done for good.

I didn't like risk. But I liked cryptic writings alot.

	10-02-2004 01:17									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Potassium St Anger is the worst cd I've ever heard. "Hi, guys, we're Metallica. You may remember us from such songs as 'Master of Puppets,' 'One,' 'For Whom the Bell Tolls,' and 'Turn the Page,' just to name a few. I know we've been one of the best and longest-standing metal bands, but with this album, we really thought it was time to appeal to the nu-metal crowd, and thus experimenting with a style that does not fit us in the least. We really should have the crap beaten out of us for making such a bad album."

I don't think it sounds like nu-metal at all. The only thing they really sold out on was the lack of guitar solos. As that is the trend now days. But how can you say it is nu metal? It sounds like their old ****- just crappier sound quality .

	10-02-2004 01:19									#133
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Let's see... bands named in this thread so far: Evanescence - suck Lacuna Coil - suck (mostly due to that guy in the band that thinks he's a happy vampire) Linkin Park - not quite suck but close (they basically wrote one song and made it 30) Creed - suck POD - suck Metallica - suck (but didn't used to, pre Black album they rocked), also IIRC St. Anger is more Bob Rock's fault then Metallica's. This hasn't been too good of a thread so far. And has anyone else noticed that when someone insults Asher he starts talking about his penis? [rant]Why doesn't anyone hear ever discuss good music? It can be popular and still be good. I'm amazed at how many people like The Mars Volta, though At the Drive-In was better. How come I am the only freakin' Mike Patton fan on the entire site? How can so many people like Linkin Park?[/rant]

yeah Mike Patton rules!!

but seriously, what's he doing lately?

	10-02-2004 01:52									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident yeah Mike Patton rules!! but seriously, what's he doing lately?

He's been hanging out with Tomahawk too much. That band is ok, but it's beneath him. Even the Mr. Bungle guys have publicly said they think Tomahawk is beneath him . He did release a new Fantomas album pretty recently I think, but I don't have it yet. IIRC he described it as 60 minutes of surgical ambience. I think it's all one track .

quote: I didn't like risk. But I liked cryptic writings alot.

Yeah, risk was mediocre. Cryptic Writings was good. Their last one though, World Needs a Hero, is as good as any album they've ever released. I love it.

The word is here that Dave is supposed to be coming out with some solo stuff pretty soon.

	10-02-2004 03:24									#135
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mmm...Opeth...

Got their complete discography

Bands to be listed in the "kick ass" category also include Dark Tranquillity, Ulver, Agalloch, Katatonia, Amorphis, Kreator, Edge of Sanity, Devin Townsend, At the Gates, Nevermore, Symphony X, Skyclad (preferably with Martin Walkyier), Anathema, My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost, Death, Samael...

If I haven't succeeded in making myself sound like a complete music snob by now, this will do it. I own every Maudlin of the Well album, and albums by Anglagard and Viikate.

[/blatant showing off]

Lacuna Coil aren't the greatest band in the world, true, but their debut EP was pretty excellent. Their two albums after that were a little dissappointing but Comalies is a damn good album. Saw them live last year too and I thought they were enjoyable. A lot of people hate the male vocals, but I think they fit the music.

If this post had a point, it's gone now.

	10-02-2004 03:29									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Namaste mmm...Opeth... Got their complete discography Bands to be listed in the "kick ass" category also include Dark Tranquillity, Ulver, Agalloch, Katatonia, Amorphis, Kreator, Edge of Sanity, Devin Townsend, At the Gates, Nevermore, Symphony X, Skyclad (preferably with Martin Walkyier), Anathema, My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost, Death, Samael... If I haven't succeeded in making myself sound like a complete music snob by now, this will do it. I own every Maudlin of the Well album, and albums by Anglagard and Viikate. [/blatant showing off] Lacuna Coil aren't the greatest band in the world, true, but their debut EP was pretty excellent. Their two albums after that were a little dissappointing but Comalies is a damn good album. Saw them live last year too and I thought they were enjoyable. A lot of people hate the male vocals, but I think they fit the music. If this post had a point, it's gone now.

I must be out of touch with current music now days.

The only one's I have heard of are Kreator and Lacuna Coil (which I wasn't overly impressed by)

	10-02-2004 03:33									#137
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Either that or my spending of over $1000 per year on music is maybe a bit excessive. Probably the latter.

I've only bothered to buy one Lacuna Coil album (Comalies), but I'll still support them. They impressed me live and most of everyone else in the room seemed to agree.

	10-02-2004 03:35									#138
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Most of the bands on your list are great, especially Edge of Sanity and Skyclad

	10-02-2004 03:59									#139
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What happens to people that make them listen to 100 different deathmetal bands?

Nothing wrong with the genre, but you know, it reminds me of the guy who ate only Kraft Dinner, breakfast, lunch and supper, 365 days a year.

A little disfunctional...

	10-02-2004 04:05									#140
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Death metal isn't my preferred style although I like a few bands (I'm much more into doom, thrash, progressive and increasingly more avant-garde stuff these days). It's not really the vocals that you're supposed to pay attention to. The riffing and drumming are what's important in that genre and a lot of that rhythm playing is pretty damn amazing.

Tons of fun live to.

	10-02-2004 21:02									#141
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Grindcore and Screamo.

	16-02-2004 13:15									#142
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I just can't see not liking Metallica's new album solely based on them selling out. Because Metallica sold out years ago. I can't see liking the black album, but not liking this one. The black album is a serious sellout, and imho one of their worst albums. Some people claim they sold out in 1984 when the put out a ballad song on an album. I don't agree with that. But you could see a radical change in 1991.

Now if you don't like the new album because it sounds like crap, well that's okay .

	16-02-2004 13:18									#143
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anybody listen to the Metal channel on Cox digital cable? I've always enjoyed that one. I used to think I listened to a lot of metal, but they play so much metal I have never heard of. Although a lot of it is crap .

They were just playing Morbid Angel. I have heard of them, MTV actually played them (on headbangers ball of course). Although I normally don't like that kind of gutteral screaming/singing. It gets kind of annoying. But musically- I like morbid angel.

Right now they are playing someone called Byzantine. The singer is crap- as is most singers of this type of metal band. I have never heard of them, but they do kind of rock. 2004 it says. I'm impressed how well death metal has hung around. It has outlived pretty much all metal styles.

	16-02-2004 21:19									#144
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Just like to point out that the only reason I've heard of Matchbox 20 is through Asher, had no idea they'd sold 23 million records but they are still totally crap regardless.

	16-02-2004 21:46									#145
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quote: It has outlived pretty much all metal styles.

That's not really true at all. Old school Floridian Death metal and grindcore is still popular in the US but it's been losing ground in relation to more Gothenburg and thrash oriented stuff recently, and in Europe its power metal that is huge and Gothenburg metal is also ridiculously popular there. There are also plenty of active and innovative doom metal bands floating around. My Dying Bride just released a new album today! Whoohoo!

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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Just like to point out that the only reason I've heard of Matchbox 20 is through Asher, had no idea they'd sold 23 million records but they are still totally crap regardless.

I'll never forget how badly I wanted to punch this guy I saw singing 3 AM badly with all his heart at some bar during the karaoke hour. As if I didn't already hate that band enough.

quote: Originally posted by Dissident anybody listen to the Metal channel on Cox digital cable? I've always enjoyed that one. I used to think I listened to a lot of metal, but they play so much metal I have never heard of. Although a lot of it is crap .

I'll flip to it occasionally. I've heard some good stuff on there, and some bad. They do play King Diamond a decent amount I've noticed and that's good.