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flash9286 is offline flash9286
Prince

Jul 2002
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New Nations powers Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

dont know if this has been posted, but who cares we nee dmore posts anyway
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Persians - Power of Ceremony

Begin the game with 50% bonus starting food.

The second city you build acts as a second capital. Both receive the Capital border bonus, and both must be captured to eliminate you.

You receive a 30% discount on Civic research.

Receive Taxation upgrades for free.

You are always at your caravan maximum.
Persian Unique Units:


Immortals, Anusiya, War Elephant, Athanatoi, Mahout, Arquebus Immortal, Gun Mahout, Culverin Mahout
Americans: Power of Innovation


Your first Wonder is built instantly, provided no other nation is also building it. Power may not be used to build Space Program or Supercollider.

Governments at the Senate are free.

Aircraft and Carriers are 20% cheaper. Starting in Modern Age, receive two free bombers at each air-base.

Receive 1 free Scholar at each new University.
American Unique Units:


Continental Marines, Marine Riflemen, Marine Infantry, Assault Marines
Lakota - Power of the Plains


Instead of building farms and granaries, receive a +5 food for every Citizen, Scout, or Calvary Unit (except when garrisoned)

Borders are invisible to enemies.

Buildings can be razed quickly and for full purchase value.

Light Calvary and Ranged Calvary upgrades are free.
Lakota Unique Units:


Sunka Wakan, Eagle Feather Horse, Musket Horse, Repeating Rifle Horse
Iroquois - Power of the Nation


Citizens and Barracks combat units +4 line of sight.

Can change back to old governments for free. (this will change)

Units are hidden when not moving or attacking in own or allied territory; foot units are tougher.
Iroquois Unique Units:


Pathfinder, Spearmen, Mohawk Spearmen, Pioneer, Heavy Mohawk Spearmen, Elite Mohawk Spearmen, Ranger
Dutch - Power of Commerce


Begin the game with a free Commerce research, and receive a 25% discount on all future Commerce research.

May construct forts 20% more quickly than other nations.
For every 100 of a resource in your treasury, receive a +2 bonus for that resource (except knowledge).

Receive 2 free Light Ships whenever you complete a Dock, provided you have at least one Military research.
Dutch Unique Units:


Armed Caravan, Armed Merchant, Armed Supply Wagon, Brig, Fluyt, Clipper
Indians - Power of Majesty


Buildings do not "ramp up" in cost except for Wonders, Towers, Lookouts, and Forts, which ramp at half the normal rate, and Cities, which ramp normally.

City economic radius increased by +4.

Caravan income increased by +10.

Elephant upgrades are free, and elephant units are 15% cheaper.
Indians Unique Units:


War Elephant, Mahout, Gun Mahout, Culverin Mahout


http://ron.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/...t&f=17,3663,,10

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 10-02-2004 06:43
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Put an end to popups!

They seem fairly powerful. More so than the original civilizations.

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Emperor

Jun 2001
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  Old Post 10-02-2004 19:10
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This has been posted in the poll...

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Prince

Jul 2002
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  Old Post 11-02-2004 17:29
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thats the first think i though when saw them skanky

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of Xanadu, French Section of the Apolyton Must Crush Capitalism Party
Jul 2002
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  Old Post 16-02-2004 16:21
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Not only they seem too powerful, but I dont see why the Americans should be represented.

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Jun 2001
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And I don't see why they shouldn't be represented...

Chaos_BF1942 is offline Chaos_BF1942
Settler

Jan 2004
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And I don't see why they shouldn't be represented...


Yeah there is after all a wonder called The Statue of Libery

Pandemoniak is offline Pandemoniak
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of Xanadu, French Section of the Apolyton Must Crush Capitalism Party
Jul 2002
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Yeah there is after all a wonder called The Statue of Libery


Which was was built by the french, which IS a nation in RoN.

And they werent -- and shouldtn, IMHO -- represented because they are a rebel colony at the beginning and not a nation from the start.

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Prince

Jul 2002
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but it was given to America and recognized as a American icon. All the countires started from different eras. Greeks were nation way before Germans and French were does that mean they shouldnt be in the game? Rise of nations spans all of history and in imo America should be a nation bc it has been the single biggest player in modern history and rise of nations includes modern history, but thats just my opinon.

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Jun 2001
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Give me a good reason why America shouldn't be in the game... the "USA wasn't a nation from the beginning" doesn't make any sense at all...

Giving America ancient units makes as much sense as giving Maya modern units

And as far as I know, Germany wasn't considered a nation 200 years ago. Back then, it was only small states of some sort...

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Settler

Feb 2004
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Well i think the debate about wether historically it should be in or not, is rather irrleivant in the whole scheme of things. the US is in because the US represents a hefty percent of gamers, and It will go along way to ensuring the expansion pack will be a sucsess.

I kinda agree with ADG for the simple reason that if a empire was required to have particpated in basically every age, there wouldn't really be a whole lot of countries that would be eligible.

Does anyone else think that they could of combined the american tribes with the US, seeing one more or less ceased to be a power when the other came in. Ie US ancient troops being Native americans. (although that might not be liked by some parties, but was just a thought)

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Jun 2001
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The official site now has more information:

http://www.microsoft.com/games/thro...ots/nations.asp

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Jun 2001
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It also offers some new information about the nations...


...And if you look at the screenshots in the campaign section, you'll notice some icons of RR that's not in the game...

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Mar 2002
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  Old Post 23-02-2004 09:23
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Got spare money?

when is this due out?

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Jun 2001
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Not sure, but my guess would be in about two months... they've released a beta...

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Jul 2002
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April 20th or somewhere near there i cant remeber exctact date

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cool thanks

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Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Pandemoniak


Which was was built by the french, which IS a nation in RoN.

And they werent -- and shouldtn, IMHO -- represented because they are a rebel colony at the beginning and not a nation from the start.


Well, france shouldnt be represented at all. They lost their real world status as a real nation a long time ago. They are nothing more than Germanys door mat. Cant wait for the germans to roll on them again. This time no one will help the pussies.

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Put an end to popups!

Why can't you use the iron clad or the conquistdors in the skrimish?

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