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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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This guy compiled all the "top" album lists that he found (45) and this is how they came out:
1. Nevermind, Nirvana
2. Sgt. Peppers, Beatles
3. Revolver, Beatles
4. Pet Sounds, Beach Boys
5. OK Computer, Radiohead
6. White Album, Beatles
7. Velvet Underground and Nico, Velvet Underground
8. Never Mind the Bollocks, Sex Pistols
9. Exile on Main Street, Rolling Stones
10. Blonde on Blonde, Bob Dylan
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Berzerker
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
time: 23:33
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 We've CONSISTENTLY showed you that they still kept their dominance in the late 60s. Read yavoon's post about the public consciousness. Look at the relative number of albums the Beatles put out in the late 60s compared to the early 60s. They were "THE band".
You can keep saying it, but that doesn't mean it is ANYWHERE near true! |
JT just posted stats showing Elvis was King, and now this:
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Well, in 1968 the Beatles held the #1 song for 18% of the year, or nearly 1 out of every 5 weeks (more than any group that year). In 1969 it was for 12% of the time (more than any group that year other than the 5th Dimension), and in 1970 it was for another 12% of the year, more than any other group except the Jackson 5. |
So the Jackson 5 and the 5th Dimension held the #1 spot longer in 69-70. A decline from 1968... And I suspect a decline from 64-67.
Imran, who were the Beatles competition in 64-66? Who were their competition from 67-70? If you can seriously claim there was no change in the level of competition in those two periods, then I have some beachfront property for sale in Arizona. 
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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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Imran, who were the Beatles competition in 64-66? |
Beach Boys, 4 Seasons, The Supremes, Roy Orbinson, Righteous Brothers, Rolling Stone, Herman's Hermits, Four Tops, Byrds, Sonny and Cher, Dave Clark Five, Simon and Garfunkel, Percy Sledge, Mama and Papas, Frank and Nancy Sinatra, Tommy James and the Shondells (YUCK!), Lovin' Spoonful, Association, Monkees, to name the "bigger" names.
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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:33
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LESS ALBUMS = LESS SINGLES. Even you should be able to get that. It no way diminishes the dominance. Why don't you ask yavoon again, who lived through it and can tell you the Beatles never lost the dominance.
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Imran, who were the Beatles competition in 64-66? Who were their competition from 67-70? |
From 64-66 you had the Beach Boys, the Supremes, Marvin Gaye, Elvis, the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, the Kinks, Simon & Garfunkel.
From 67-70, the Stones, the Doors, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Simon & Garfunkel, Hendrix.
Sorry, I'll take 64-66. The late 60s is fairly overrated, IMO, in terms of bands (I put the Doors on as 'competition' although I think they were crap).
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Sikander
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Boulder, Colorado, United Snakes of America
Jan 2000
time: 22:33
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The Beatles were certainly the most dominant band the latest. They had immense influence in many ways.
As musicians they were at least pretty good. Not one was a smokingly hot instrumentalist, though I do like George's guitar work quite a bit. But when you add the fact that they could all sing (three of them well) and do complex harmonies, and could do it all live (they are considered one of the best live bands of all time until they were overwhelmed by estrogen induced screaming) I have to give them an A for musicianship.
As writers they are unsurpassed in the popular music or rock genres. Three of them wrote regularly, and enjoyed solo careers where they wrote all their own music after the Beatles broke up. They produced quality and quantity for a decade, and showed their staying power in their solo careers after the band broke up. A definite A.
As innovators they again rate an A. They invented numerous techniques in the studio (along with George Martin) and introduced numerous instruments to rock music fans, including Middle Eastern and Indian drums, Sitars, traditional band instruments and full on orchestras. They pushed the envelope regularly with their studio work once they got out from underneath the heal of their first record contract.
As businessmen they also rate an A. This was perhaps the most influential thing that they did. They busted up the old manager steals all the money that the record company decides you should have system by publicly negotiating their contracts and eventually forming their own label. They made a lot of money in a short period of time because they realized their own marketing power. Untold numbers of bands were able to take advantage of this paradigm change, and the music industry was set back on its heals for more than a decade.
Perhaps one can make the argument that another band or artist rates this highly in these areas. But the Beatles certainly deserve to be mentioned whenever one talks about the best bands of all time, because they were the best band of all time when they retired. One might prefer other bands now, but they retired on top of the game.
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10-02-2004 08:47
And what is this based on? Because you don't remember any of the acts from 1962-1965 except for the Beatles?
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