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CharlesBHoff
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el paso texas
May 2002
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
I'll say this. I understand the positions that people have on marijuana legalisation. But legalising cocaine or heroin? People who want that are half wit idiots who do not have an argument for such a stupid argument.
And just ask yourself this: Who can buy drugs at such high prices? Fewer can. And your numbers are bogus. Also... legalising it will bring in an influx of supply, thus cancelling out any loss in sales for the illegal drug trade. |
England have for along time than program that gave they regur heron addit heron legality and Marget Trachet (the DinBat) want to end it because Ronald Regan(than other DinBat) want England to end it. The most converst inst in England fought her evil plan, the inst was Stockland Yard(London police and England FBI).
Marget Trachet I believe lost the fight.
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CharlesBHoff
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el paso texas
May 2002
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Cocaine is use as than pain killer and local athesian(spray around than foot to remove than ingrown toenail). Heron is than very powerful painkiller given as than painkiller in England and some European countries with terminate illness like Cancer and who are in alot of pain. Heron can kill you in 6 month but does it matter to than terminate parient what kill then dead is dead. At least under heron they die happy and pain free.
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
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That is, whithout a doubt, the best support for an arguement I've ever seen.
Imagine all the time people waste in university and business writing detailed reports supporting various positions when all they have to do is write "unacceptable" on a piece of paper and hand it in.....
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Deity Dude
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Westland, Michigan
Aug 2000
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I'm not from Cali but I would still like to comment on the thread if that's OK? Well I'm not gonna wait for permission so I hope its OK - LOL.
Anyways I skipped directly to page 8 and see that somehow this has turned into a discussion of legalizing drugs, BUT I AM GONNA STICK TO THE THREAD TOPIC, (then I'll talk about drugs LOL)
PROP 57 - REFINANCE STATE DEBT AT A LOWER RATE.
Sounds like what I did when I remortgaged my home. I took a 13% interest rate and dropped it 6.75%. To me this is the type of common sense solution we need to see more of in government.
PROP 58 - GOVERNMENT MUST BALANCE THE BUDGET
Dose this mean government can't spend more money then they have and can't take more of the people's money than thier bloated budgets require? To me this is the type of common sense solution we need to see more of in government.
LEGALIZATION OF SUBSTANCES DEEMED ILLEGAL BY THE GOVERNMENT FOR SELF CONSUMPTION.
War on Drugs ends saving tons of money, restores some of our lost privacy rights, takes people out of prison who's "crime" was ingesting a substance the government declares illegal, reduces violent crime, restores a person's right to make his own choices abouot his own life whether or not other people agree, plus a million other things. To me this is the type of common sense solution we need to see more of in government.
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:33
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
But other than that, I have no problem with hanging people for having marijuana. Homosexual sex is not similar to marijuana. |
Not that I think it's feasible, but do you think you could actually articulate your reasons for this?
If, as I suspect, it's because you feel you're the final authority on what's morally acceptable, then you needn't bother.
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:33
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Lawrance, nice try. Now it doesn't make any sense. Drugs does not equal homosexuality. Drug addicts deserve the death penalty, whereas homosexuals do not as they do nothing wrong. |
What exactly has someone smoking pot in their own home done wrong? Who are they hurting?
Try reading rev's post. He laid it out pretty clearly.
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rev
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Boulder, CO USA
Apr 2001
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Giancarlo, nobody here is suggesting that being gay and doing drugs are the same. You're absolutely right: they're NOT the same. Being gay isn't a choice; doing drugs is.
What IS the same -- and this is the last time I'm saying this, so please take your fingers out of your ears -- is the way government TREATS them. The way social conservatives (on the authoritarian side of the fence, which I'm sure you're acutely familiar with) see it, anything you do on your own private property, behind closed doors, with consenting adults, ANYTHING YOU DO is their (government's) business to monitor and to punish.
As for choice, as a said: being gay isn't a choice; doing drugs is. However, the government won't punish you for BEING gay, but for engaging in homosexual relations. If government is allowed to limit your choices behind closed doors, then smoking a bowl and having same-sex relations are one and the same and can be fully regulated and punished, merely because some majority (not even a great majority) thinks it's a bad or immoral choice.
Morality is to what extent you'll use your freedoms. Want to share your bed with a member of the same sex? GREAT! You're both consenting adults and whatever happens as a result is your own personal responsibility -- that's freedom.
You'd put people to death for causing others no harm.
And to echo MrBaggins: should we put caffiene addicts before a firing line? Caffiene, after all, is severely addictive and, by the loosest of definitions, a drug. It can furthermore change peoples' personalities -- and this is something people don't talk about, whereas with illegal drugs many are already aware of the physical consequences of consuming them.
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CharlesBHoff
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el paso texas
May 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by rev
Giancarlo, nobody here is suggesting that being gay and doing drugs are the same. You're absolutely right: they're NOT the same.
What IS the same -- and this is the last time I'm saying this, so please take your fingers out of your ears -- is the way government TREATS them. The way social conservatives (on the authoritarian side of the fence, which I'm sure you're acutely familiar with) see it, anything you do on your own private property, behind closed doors, with consenting adults, ANYTHING YOU DO is their (government's) business to monitor and to punish.
Morality is, in some fashion (but not by definition), to what extent you'll use your freedoms. Want to share your bed with a member of the same sex? GREAT! You're both consenting adults and whatever happens as a result is your own personal responsibility -- that's freedom.
You'd put people to death for causing others no harm.
And, to echo MrBaggins: should we put before the firing line those who are addicted to caffiene? It is, by the most vague of definitions, a drug and it is highly, highly addictive, and it changes peoples personalities. |
As than Muslim Islan treach you cannot ban alchol or other drugs which are either apart of culture or people will do against the law anyway in large number. The United Stated try to ban alchol in the 1920's than it fail.
Saudi Arabia ban alchol as alchol drinking wasnot apart of their culture. Alchol is use to be able to medine as more medical are solute in alchol instead of water, than that is the only way that the medine can be taken then muslim can take the medine dissolve in alchol.
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