12-02-2004 23:14									#1
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Can't seem to find what this victory implies, not listed in the civilopedia. Can anyone elighten me?

	12-02-2004 23:25									#2
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I think it means, once all the wonders are built, the game ends and whomever holds the most wins.

	13-02-2004 02:21									#3
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I don't know, but if it is the case, what is the point? I mean the game is not going to last much longer if all the wonders are build.

	13-02-2004 02:35									#4
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I could have sworn that it meant that, as soon as all the wonders are built, the game end BUT the civ with the highest total score wins.

(I thought someone posted a couple weeks ago stating that they had built most of the wonders, but still lost because another civ's score was higher. Hard to remember the details tho.)

	13-02-2004 02:38									#5
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maybe that was what happened.

in fact I think it was, someone was pissed cause they had more, but lost because of score?



for scenarios
for regular game

	13-02-2004 04:27									#6
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Yeah, when the last wonder gets built the game is over. Highest score at that point wins.

	13-02-2004 08:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel maybe that was what happened. in fact I think it was, someone was pissed cause they had more, but lost because of score? for scenarios for regular game

That would be me. I had built 21 of the 29 wonders, but lost because when I built the last wonder the lousy frogs had a 200 point lead in score. So I went back one turn, switched from wonder to ICBM (screw the lost shields) and bombed them back to the stone age before I built the 29th wonder.

Wonder "Victory" is just a game-ending condition, not really a victory condition.

	13-02-2004 09:03									#8
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It would really be useless at the highest levels (deity and Sid), if it was a wonder count.

	13-02-2004 13:19									#9
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So just another gimmicky type of victory, like Regicide then (which sounds remarkably like capture the flag from FPS games to me...).

	13-02-2004 20:51									#10
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Well, notice that it is turned OFF by default. It's just an option for use if you want it (like Regicide, which seemed to be very popular in games like Age of Kings...and the French Revolution, and the English Civil War, and...

	18-02-2004 00:07									#11
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quote: Originally posted by patcon That would be me. I had built 21 of the 29 wonders, but lost because when I built the last wonder the lousy frogs had a 200 point lead in score. So I went back one turn, switched from wonder to ICBM (screw the lost shields) and bombed them back to the stone age before I built the 29th wonder. Wonder "Victory" is just a game-ending condition, not really a victory condition.

Isn't time travel great.