14-02-2004 00:59									#1
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I don’t currently own a copy of Civ 3, but I am borrowing it from a friend to see if I want to purchase it myself. I saw C3C being advertised, and wondered if it was that much better than Civ 3. That said, will C3C work on its own, or will I need to purchase Civ 3 first?

	14-02-2004 01:53									#2
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You need to have Civ3 installed for C3C to work. It is an expansion not the game itself. C3C does however contain the previous expansion (Play the World) so you do not need that.

	14-02-2004 02:17									#3
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I see. I have owned games before in which the expansions were stand-alone ones, and didn’t require the purchase of the original game in order to run. Crackers, that’s a pretty pricey purchase to get both games. Is C3C really worth it?

	14-02-2004 02:22									#4
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I personally enjoy the game (as long as it's patched) so yes I think it's worth it.

	14-02-2004 02:28									#5
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There are many interface improvement in the expansion packs. The editor in CivIII is much weaker than C3C.
Many more civs and units in C3C.
You are allowed up to 31 civs in C3C as to 16 in CivIII.
It can be found for as low at $9.99, so that is about as fair a price as you can expect.

Yes a few games do have stand alone expansion packs such Disciples II, the Warlords III and others.
Disciples for example was not cheap and did not offer all that much for the price of not requiring the original. Mind you it was worth the money to me, but just a point of fact.

	14-02-2004 06:54									#6
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Can you install C3C over Civ3 Gold?

	14-02-2004 07:15									#7
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Jartol: Yep. C3 Gold is just bundled up Civ 3 and Play the World.

	14-02-2004 07:22									#8
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Thank you for they quick reply.

That is what I figured, but asking before buying seemed like a better idea. I'd really feel silly if I bought it and they weren't compatible.

	16-02-2004 15:25									#9
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Conquest is great! It really made the game much better :-)

And now my people, The Vikings, are there too, so BEAWARE!

	17-02-2004 01:17									#10
	Got spare money?

Go buy it. You won't regret. Well, maybe later, when you find out that your social life went down the drain...

	17-02-2004 20:37									#11
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Well, I went out and purchased the two games at the beginning of this past weekend. It was a long weekend, which was handy. You guys were right, the Conquerors expansion is superb. I’m just loving the conquests and the variety of play they bring. Goodbye social life.

	17-02-2004 21:33									#12
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Be sure to get the 1.15 beta patch.

	17-02-2004 21:43									#13
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Is that one an on-line multiplayer patch only, or does it patch other aspects of the game?

	17-02-2004 22:48									#14
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It fixes several bugs in the original game. You definitely need it, even for SP.

	17-02-2004 23:02									#15
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Two huge issue:

1- gold per turn bug

Where any gpt deals get paid twice

2- FP corruption

where the FP was of little use before patching and now is decent and worth having.

	18-02-2004 02:28									#16
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So with C3C you can still play online with other people... even if you dont have PTW?

	18-02-2004 02:37									#17
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quote: Originally posted by KuriousK724 So with C3C you can still play online with other people... even if you dont have PTW?

Yes. C3C includes PTW.

	18-02-2004 04:36									#18
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Man, the guy asks a bunch of civ nuts whether he should buy civ. Hardly an impartial audience.

	18-02-2004 05:05									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Man, the guy asks a bunch of civ nuts whether he should buy civ. Hardly an impartial audience.

True, however I had seen bad reviews for the PTW expansion, and wanted to get the opinion of people who have similar tastes in games to myself, before purchasing the C3C expansion.