15-02-2004 17:04									#31
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You have to try AquaMark, it's a great benchmark program: http://www.aquamark3.com/

My score was 21,135.

	16-02-2004 00:06									#32
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My system:

Asus P4S800D-E Deluxe
P4 3.0 OC'd to 3.3
1GB(2 sticks) OCZ 3700 gold Rev 2 (set at stock 2.5-3-3-7)
ATI 9800 pro
WD 74GB 10,000RPM Rator Sata
Lite on 4XDVD/CD burner.
SB audigy 5.1
Logitech 5.1 speakers
21" CRT

Haven't run 3d mark yet, been tuning the other parts of the system since the build two weeks ago.
Do have a PCMark score of 5076 (video has the weakest score).

Guess I could run that, but it is very dependent on the video card and not much else, right?
Plus I still need to figure out how much I can OC the video card. I DL'd aittool and powerstrip, just start playing with atitool last night.

	16-02-2004 00:10									#33
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I have the Hercules version and they send you a utility with the card.

I can't really be bothered........I know I could up my score my pushing the FSB to 175 or so and playing with the card's settings, but there isn't much point when you can play everything maxed out.

That system is beasty............get 3dMark03 and see what you get. Should be top one yet.

	16-02-2004 00:22									#34
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Probably sounds like a beast too

	16-02-2004 02:19									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni You have to try AquaMark, it's a great benchmark program: http://www.aquamark3.com/ My score was 21,135.

39,219.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 3400+ (2.2GHz)
MB: Asus K8V Deluxe
RAM: OCZ Platinum EL PC3200 512MB (CL2) x 2
HD: 2 x 120GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 w/ 8MB cache in RAID0 config
Sound: SoundBlaster Audigy 2
Network: 3Com 3C940 Gigabit ethernet
Video: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro @ 430MHz core

	16-02-2004 04:04									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Asher 39,219. CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 3400+ (2.2GHz) MB: Asus K8V Deluxe RAM: OCZ Platinum EL PC3200 512MB (CL2) x 2 HD: 2 x 120GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 w/ 8MB cache in RAID0 config Sound: SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Network: 3Com 3C940 Gigabit ethernet Video: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro @ 430MHz core

$$$?

	16-02-2004 04:22									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus $$$?

Maybe $1300?

	16-02-2004 04:41									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus $$$?

$1800CDN, or about $1400US. Mind you, it'd be cheaper now: the Athlon 64 3200+ has dropped in price, as have the 9800 Pros.

It would've been cheaper if I didn't build a virtually silent system, also. Antec Sonata case, Zalman solid-copper 750g CPU cooler (20dB), Zalman VGA heatpipe kit with noiseless fan (20dB), etc.

	16-02-2004 04:53									#39
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After seeing the Seagates I knew you weren't skimping on silence (when does silence cost a fortune? When you're building a computer ). I made the mistake of buying a WD Caviar 120... it's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee all day long. Getting a Samsung after Austria.
P.S. is it the 256MB Radeon ?

	16-02-2004 05:16									#40
	Got spare money?

having 256 MB is useless right now.

	16-02-2004 05:21									#41
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Now being the key word...

	16-02-2004 05:25									#42
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The real nuts have the XT.

	16-02-2004 05:50									#43
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Why would you buy an XT when a 9800 Pro with good cooling hits the same speeds for hundreds of dollars less?

And it's only 128MB, the 256MB's DDR2 doesn't overclock as well.

I plan on upgrading to the R450-based cards at the end of the year or so, then I'll go for 256.

	16-02-2004 06:51									#44
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I'm just waiting for the BTX kit to come out and mature (maybe a month or so? ). Then it's new pc time again!

	16-02-2004 18:11									#45
	Full PM-box? Change here!

I'll hang onto my Radeon 9500 until PCI express is stable.
If it takes too long, I'll consider upgrading to a value-card in two years or so.

	16-02-2004 18:15									#46
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I wouldn't buy an XT anyway, they are way too expensive for a small performance increase.

What do you use to overclock your Radeon 9800 Pro? I have a utility that came with the card (it's the Hercules version) but I don't know if it is any good.

	16-02-2004 20:10									#47
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quote: Originally posted by MattH Probably sounds like a beast too

No it does not! SC has a MSEE and understands things like low DB case fans (plus there on a reobus that is built into the case so I can turn them up/down when needed, there is also a thermocouple to put where you desire, which I jammed in the memory.)

The only thing that sounds like a beast is the 5.1 speaker set-up.

	17-02-2004 01:09									#48
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I wouldn't buy an XT anyway, they are way too expensive for a small performance increase. What do you use to overclock your Radeon 9800 Pro? I have a utility that came with the card (it's the Hercules version) but I don't know if it is any good.

I use the Rage3D util.

	17-02-2004 02:31									#49
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Again Atitool and powerstrip are good ones. I haven't tried the Rage3D one yet.
You can get them all at major geeks.

	17-02-2004 03:36									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy No it does not! SC has a MSEE and understands things like low DB case fans (plus there on a reobus that is built into the case so I can turn them up/down when needed, there is also a thermocouple to put where you desire, which I jammed in the memory.) The only thing that sounds like a beast is the 5.1 speaker set-up.

I wasn't thinking about the fans, I was seeing the

quote: WD 74GB 10,000RPM Rator Sata

!

	17-02-2004 05:16									#51
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14493 in 3DMark 2001

P4 3GHz (800MHz)
GeForce FX5900
1Gb RAM

	17-02-2004 05:53									#52
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You should try Aquamark 3, PH.


I just patched my Radeon 9500 to a Radeon 9700, and the result is astonishing:

I jumped from a score of 21,135 to a score of 32,751. And it didn't cost a penny more.

	17-02-2004 06:05									#53
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I ran the 3DMark 2001 test as well, just for kicks. I scored 13,508.

	17-02-2004 06:51									#54
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it's been like two years since i benchmarked with 3dmark:

athlon 1700xp+
geforce 3 ti-200

all i remember is that i got to within like 200 pts of the max possible with an athlon 1700xp so i stopped, i belive it was like 3.6k at the time, max anybody got was like 3.8k.

lemme try aquamark.

	17-02-2004 07:13									#55
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10,331 with aquamark.

heh 3dmark 2001 won't work with dx 9.0.

	17-02-2004 08:02									#56
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ew. 813 on 3dmark2003.

	17-02-2004 08:33									#57
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quote: Originally posted by ADG With the problems I had with 9600...! No WAY!!!

I have issues with mine too. I'm getting a new computer in four months, so I'm not going to bother switching.

	17-02-2004 16:52									#58
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quote: Originally posted by da_hal 10,331 with aquamark. heh 3dmark 2001 won't work with dx 9.0.

It does.

	17-02-2004 19:08									#59
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quote: Originally posted by MattH I wasn't thinking about the fans, I was seeing the !

The Raptor is surprisingly quiet. My older comp has a 30mb 7200rpm drive that is a lot louder than this one. I do not know if this is the reason, but I put dampening washers on the screws when I mounted the drive.

	17-02-2004 19:10									#60
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Does anyone else use PCMark04?