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David Floyd
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Combat troops were at approx 10-12 million IIRC. |
Wrong, the entire US Army was in that range, but most of those people were in support roles. The US only had 89 Army and 6 Marine divisions during the war, and if you assume an average of 15,000-20,000 men per divisions (many of whom aren't even combat personnel), you don't even approach 10 million.
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
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Robert Accinelli has written a thorough and thought-provoking account of U.S. relations with the Republic of China (relocated to Taiwan in December 1949) at the dawn of the Cold War. Through a chronological narrative, Accinelli retraces the complicated interplay of events that led the Truman and Eisenhower administrations toward the "two China" approach that eventually dominated American foreign policy. In this first full-length analysis of America's growing security interest in Taiwan, the author argues convincingly that the U.S. made no formal commitment to the island and that half-measures and pragmatism dominated American diplomacy. While the casual student of U.S.-East Asian relations might suspect that the Truman administration favored establishing a noncommunist outpost off the Chinese mainland, Accinelli correctly concludes that Washington was far more cautious in its dealing with Chiang Kai-shek and the nationalists. Instead, he argues that successive U.S. administrations kept military, economic, and political commitments to Taiwan limited and out of official channels.
In the aftermath of Mao Tse-tung's victory in China, American policymakers had conceded that Taiwan and the surrounding offshore islands would eventually fall to the Communists. The "interventionists" in the State Department suggested, however, that this gloomy prediction was premature. In mid-1950, this group of senior State Department officials rallied together, calling for a regional policy review. The "interventionists"--led by Dean Rusk, Paul Nitze, and John Foster Dulles--concluded that Taiwan was salvageable if given proper U.S. support. Rusk, then the Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs, spearheaded a move in Washington to provide Taiwan with at least token military assurances in the early years. The "interventionists" convinced others in Washington of Taiwan's strategic military importance and its psychological political value, and as a result, the commitment grew over time.
According to Accinelli, there were other factors that led the Truman administration to reevaluate its Taiwan guarantee. The growing turmoil in Korea and Southeast Asia provided the regional context while Senator Joseph P. McCarthy's anticommunist crusade added certain domestic pressures. Accinelli contends that Truman and Eisenhower eventually settled for the "two China" approach, ensuring Taiwan's security and survival under Peking's gaze. At the same time, however, Washington made clear that there would be no counterattack against the mainland and no future provocative military action by the nationalists.
Accinelli bases his conclusions on meticulous archival research and a thorough review of existing literature. This book is "old fashioned" diplomatic history at its best and it should join Nancy Bernkopf Tucker's Taiwan, Hong Kong, and the United States as the standard work on the subject. Although the detail might overwhelm some undergraduates, graduate students and specialists will find it useful, and perhaps even essential reading.
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/...1/article.jhtml
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CharlesBHoff
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el paso texas
May 2002
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Originally posted by PLATO
Before last START talks, US had almost 11,000 warheads. Do you really think the press just missed the disposal of all that bomb grade plutonium? I'm guessing they are "being stored for disposal" at Fort Hood. (Bye Bye China if you are stupid enough to launch. Ha...China fires 20 nukes...15 are viable launches...10 are shot down or badly miss tarkets...5 hit. US retaliates with 10,000 nukes...Former SE Asia now known as the East Persian sea.) |
The China ICBM carry 25 megton Temonuclear warhead(H-Bomb) than EMP (electic Magnetic Pulse) would ruin our computise ecomony real fast, powerline will be melt by than EMP tham power generator at power compancies will be either melt or burnout or both over awide part of America. Huge firestorm will rage across our national park's and forest and cities. Looking at than hight atitude 25 megton bust will cause 3rd degrecc burn on people up to 90 or more miles away(the worst time of burn possible) while at the same time the light from that themonuclear blast will blind people permanant as far as 90 or more miles. The EMP can traveler thousand mile or more from than single Themonuclear blast. Plus China is alway impoven they ICBM and there is agood change that they range is greater than we think. That why nobody test big H-bomb anymore. The Island we test our first H-Bomb on cannot support human habition yet and that test was done 44 years ago, we think that Island might be unliveable for the next few thousand years to come. We donot have than Anti-missile Defense system yet, they cannot stop very missiles, in fact in our rig test if did work every well. There are way to make than ICBM harder to shoot down.
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CharlesBHoff
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el paso texas
May 2002
time: 05:34
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Taiwan would repel any invasion coming from China as it stands now due to the severe lack of anything resembling sea lift capacity. Be more worried about Taiwan in a decade or so. |
I hear thought my Intelligence Network that China have away to put than huge force on Taiwan without any huge sealift capacity.
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Cruddy
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To secure peace is
To prepare for war.
I reckon you're OK. Generally most wars start with a couple of days warning with "Diplomatic Crisis" stamped on them.
Any posters living close to Army ranges will appreciate just what a blasted nuisance training exercises are - but I kind of miss the distant thud of arty in the distance.
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The Mad Viking
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of the Great White North
Feb 2000
time: 05:34
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bla bla bla
Here is what your fearless leader of Democracy had to say, just before Christmas:
sourc: Boston Globe
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Bush, in his remarks Tuesday, was responding to recent moves by Taiwan's president, Chen Shui-bian, to call a "defensive" referendum asking voters whether they want China to withdraw the hundreds of missiles it has deployed within striking distance of Taiwan.
Western analysts have said Chen's move was based on a desire to heighten tensions between Taiwan and China in the run-up to Taiwan's presidential election on March 20. In 2000, Chen benefited from increased tension with China and became the first opposition candidate to win Taiwan's presidency.
China has accused Chen of using the referendum as a ploy to push Taiwan a step closer to formal independence from China. Beijing has threatened to attack the island, which it considers part of China, if it declares independence.
"The so-called referendum is quite deceptive and dangerous," Liu said. "Its aim is to separate Taiwan from the mainland. China will never tolerate such activity."
In Taiwan, Chen said he believed that Washington eventually would support the referendum, a widely held belief making the rounds on the island. "I believe America is a democratic country," he said in an interview broadcast on CNN, according to a presidential office statement. "It will absolutely support and encourage the public opinion of Taiwan's 23 million people and their pursuit of deeper democracy and peace."
Bush said the United States opposes "any unilateral decision by either China or Taiwan to change the status quo." He added: "The comments and actions made by the leader of Taiwan indicate that he may be willing to make decisions unilaterally to change the status quo, which we oppose." |
I guess there is no oil on Taiwan. 
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Mordoch
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Denver, Colorado
Jan 2002
time: 05:34
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Originally posted by The Mad Viking
bla bla bla
Here is what your fearless leader of Democracy had to say, just before Christmas:
I guess there is no oil on Taiwan. |
Actually Bush has made it pretty clear to China that we will intervene militarily if China invades Taiwan. Its mostly that the US doesn't want Taiwan provoking anything by declaring independance either.
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President George W. Bush warned China Tuesday not to use coercion or force against Taiwan and also warned Taiwan not to follow a path of a unilaterally declaring independence from the mainland, senior administration officials said.
Bush's temporary lifting on long-standing ambiguity on the China-Taiwan situation came in public and private statements during almost two hours of talks with visiting Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao
"I think the president made a very clear comment in regard to the question of Taiwan and the cross-strait relationship (with China)," an official said on condition of anonymity. "We are in no way abandoning support for Taiwan's democracy or for the spread of freedom. However, we are seeing developments on both sides of the strait, forcing us to drop some of the ambiguity that has been in the policy in the past."
The official said Bush told Wen "in no uncertain terms that we, the United States, would have to get involved if China tried to use coercion or force to unilaterally change the status of Taiwan."...
"He made it clear: 'Look, if you try to use force or coercion against the Taiwanese, we're going to be there.'" |
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-brea...51506-6555r.htm
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