15-02-2004 08:35									#1
	GoW-ND-GS Chat Log Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

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quote: Start of #gow_cofa buffer: Thu Feb 12 16:35:46 2004 [14:09] * Now talking in #gow_cofa [14:09] * Topic is 'The Glory of Diplomacy' [14:09] * Set by MasterZen on Sat Nov 22 14:15:41 [14:09] * ChanServ sets mode: +o MasterZen [14:11] * asleepathewheel has joined #GoW_CoFA [14:11] [asleepathewheel] anybody in? [14:11] [MasterZen] yep [14:11] [MasterZen] how's it going? [14:11] [asleepathewheel] alright [14:12] [asleepathewheel] was there supposed to be a chat today at 3, I think there's a little confusion on our (GS) part [14:12] [MasterZen] no, no confusion, you're right on time [14:13] [asleepathewheel] oh ok. [14:13] [asleepathewheel] I was expecting Cort Haus to be here, as he is the main man now for us. [14:13] [MasterZen] Cort just e-mailed me to see if it was on or not, I just e-mailed him back [14:13] [MasterZen] I actually just got here 2 minutes before you did, maybe he came before and saw no-one [14:13] [asleepathewheel] phew ( [14:15] [MasterZen] so, how is stormia these days? [14:15] [asleepathewheel] nice and quiet [14:16] [MasterZen] same over here. Our peoples are enjoying the newfound fun of that thing called "building" [14:16] [asleepathewheel] good [14:17] * Zayxus has joined #gow_cofa [14:17] [Zayxus] hi [14:17] [MasterZen] hello [14:17] [asleepathewheel] hi [14:17] [Zayxus] hello [14:18] [Zayxus] how are you? [14:18] * MasterZen wonders if Cort Haus got lost somewhere between Dreadnaughtica and Imperial City... [14:18] [asleepathewheel] I hope Mr. Haus arrives soon [14:18] * aggieeating is now known as aggie [14:18] [Zayxus] hello Aggie [14:18] [MasterZen] dammit, you just made me hungry... [14:18] [aggie] hi there, I just finished eating [14:19] [aggie] hehe [14:19] [Zayxus] feeling a little hungry, too [14:19] [asleepathewheel] I just posted a note to CH on our forum about the room number, so hopefully he will be here soon [14:19] [MasterZen] room number... sounds like a motel [14:20] [asleepathewheel] [14:21] [aggie] i'll be in and out, I'm currently getting ready [14:21] [MasterZen] ok [14:23] [MasterZen] tic toc... tic toc... tic toc... [14:24] [asleepathewheel] well... [14:25] * Cort has joined #GoW_CoFA [14:25] [MasterZen] yey [14:26] [MasterZen] hello Cort * Retrieving #gow_cofa info... * Waiting 6 seconds for previous request * Retrieving #gow_cofa info... [14:26] [Cort] hey ho! [14:26] [aggie] hi there [14:26] [asleepathewheel] phew [14:26] [Cort] OK, we have discovered The Wheel. Interested? [14:26] [aggie] the wheell,cool [14:27] [MasterZen] holy crap!! I don't think we have anything so advanced... [14:27] [aggie] we still looking for fire [14:27] * MasterZen sets mode: +ps [14:27] * MasterZen sets mode: +k goomba [14:28] [MasterZen] ok, now that we're all here [14:28] [MasterZen] let me put up our side of the agenda: [14:28] [Cort] ok [14:28] [MasterZen] 1) tech trades (including early industrial) [14:28] [MasterZen] 2) discussion on the Lego screenshot [14:29] [MasterZen] 3) geo-strategy [14:29] [MasterZen] and of course, anything else you guys want to discuss [14:29] [Cort] sounds good [14:29] [asleepathewheel] great [14:30] [asleepathewheel] Is someone logging this, and can we get a copy afterwards [14:30] [MasterZen] I am logging [14:30] [MasterZen] I can e-mail you guys a copy no problem [14:30] [Cort] cool [14:30] [MasterZen] oh boy, guess who's coming... [14:31] * Trip has joined #GoW_CoFA [14:31] [Cort] :gasp: [14:31] [aggie] hi mr eye [14:31] [Trip] greets [14:31] [Trip] what've I missed [14:31] [Trip] [14:31] * MasterZen pokes the eye with a toothpick [14:32] [aggie] we just agree that we'd all vote for lux for the UN victory congrats [14:32] [MasterZen] yeah, Lux, you really showed us how to play civ [14:32] [Trip] yay [14:32] [Cort] so, item #1 - tech trades [14:32] [MasterZen] yes [14:32] [Trip] the ISDG teams did it worse than me [14:33] [aggie] indeed [14:33] [MasterZen] I'm not sure if there's anything left to trade in the medieval. Just an interesting note thoguh: Vox will get a free tech [14:33] [Cort] Indeed [14:33] [Cort] Zayxus, do you wish to offer us anything for Physics? [14:33] [MasterZen] well, there's still Economics and Theory of Gravity, perhaps we can trade these [14:34] [Cort] When Lego build Smiths, Economics becomes as useful as Music Theory [14:34] [MasterZen] it's still a required tech though, isn't it? [14:34] [Zayxus] well , physics has a price, let me see... [14:35] [aggie] isn't eco required though for next age though [14:35] [Cort] btw - they started Magellans in Jackson (Lego) [14:35] [MasterZen] perhaps a pre-build? [14:35] [aggie] i imagine it must be a place holder [14:35] [Cort] - or about to finish it, if it's a Palace prebuild, as we suspect. It'll fire their GA [14:35] [Cort] no Eco aint mandatory [14:35] [aggie] just what we don't need [14:35] [MasterZen] then it's just ToG [14:36] [Cort] We'll have that soon [14:36] [aggie] we'll we have mt soon [14:36] [Cort] ok [14:36] [Cort] How about a 3-way on Nat, Steam, and Medicine? [14:37] [MasterZen] sounds like a plan. Although perhaps we might want to research Steam ASAP [14:37] [aggie] i am eager to see where coal is too [14:37] [MasterZen] perhaps a 3-way collaboration on Steam, and then each of us do the next 3 techs [14:38] [Trip] I know [14:38] [Cort] The fastest way for you to see Steam is to research Medicine and Trade it for our Steam. [14:38] [Cort] I mean see coal [14:38] * MasterZen hasn't looked at the industrial tech tree in a looooong time [14:39] [aggie] i ahve but for conquest not ptw [14:39] [MasterZen] hehe, the only C3C game I've played since the beta is AU501 [14:40] [MasterZen] and I'm still not in the industrial [14:40] [Cort] The tree is in my head [14:40] [Cort] - and in front of me [14:41] * MasterZen wonders what free tech Vox will get [14:41] [Cort] Nat, hopefully [14:41] [MasterZen] i'd prefer they get Medicine actually... [14:41] [MasterZen] you know who they're going to give it to afterall.. [14:41] [Zayxus] to GS: for Physics: 600 Beaker or Gold as offer [14:42] [MasterZen] see this is the thing. The quicker we get Steam, the quicker we can also get Industrialization [14:43] [Cort] Zayxus - is that an offer of 600g for Physics? [14:43] [Zayxus] yes. [14:43] [Cort] MZ - fine, we understand. Is that a Uni Suff prebuild in Imperial there? [14:44] [Cort] Zaxyus - we'll put that to our Forum, [14:44] [aggie] good question wish i knew the answer [14:44] [MasterZen] by definition, GoWers are not affected by WW [14:45] [MasterZen] in fact we suffer reverse-WW. If we are not at war for too long, our people get restless. THAT's the real reason we attacked RP. Just don't tell anyone [14:45] [aggie] well at least our players do [14:46] [MasterZen] especially H_E and GF [14:46] [Cort] Hows this, MZ. Our Steam for Your Medicine, then our electricity for your industrialisation [14:46] [Cort] aggie - you'd better go attack Lego then [14:46] [aggie] well i'm a man who just wants piece [14:47] [MasterZen] sounds like an idea Cort [14:47] [Cort] a piece of Lego, a piece of Stormia, yeajh I know [14:47] [MasterZen] on both accounts [14:47] [Cort] THen ND, once we bring 'em up can do Nat and trade us that for Steam and Medicine [14:48] [Zayxus] (to Cort: all right) [14:49] [MasterZen] what about the Vox tech? Maybe we can trade something and get it easier... [14:49] [aggie] first we need vox up to dfate [14:49] [Cort] We're assuming Vox are working for Lego [14:49] [MasterZen] of course [14:50] [Cort] so we're not trading them physics for demo, for example, before Lego have Physics [14:50] [aggie] but with NDA's it mightwork. I wonder what tech lego is doing [14:50] [MasterZen] that brings us to part 2) [14:50] [MasterZen] Lego is doing 10% research [14:50] * MasterZen goes to look at the screenie [14:50] [Cort] Guys, the key is for all of us 3 teams is to keep Lego out of the tech loop, and make them research everything themselves [14:50] [Cort] MZ - still at 10% - that was 2/3 turmns ago [14:50] [aggie] agreed [14:51] [Cort] Lego finished off Economics that turn, according to the beaker count, so they may have been able to hold back the slider for the last turn [14:51] [Cort] Aggie - excellent! [14:52] * Trip has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:52] [Cort] We haven't traded a single tech, or our second lux to Lego because we want to delay them economically [14:52] * Trip has joined #gow_cofa [14:53] [MasterZen] after they finish the Sistine and JS Bachs they won't even need luxes [14:53] * Trip has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:53] [asleepathewheel] assuming they ever finish sistine [14:53] [MasterZen] ahhhhhh [14:53] [asleepathewheel] ah yes, the perpetual prebuild [14:53] [Cort] Hey shall we talk about THAT [14:54] [asleepathewheel] I wonder if they knew that going in, or just noticed the loophole later [14:54] [MasterZen] yeah what the hell [14:54] * Trip has joined #gow_cofa [14:54] [MasterZen] you connection is a piece of crap Trip, even worse than mine [14:55] [Cort] If they switch it to Smiths, the rest of the teams should put out a joint statement saying the deal on Sistine is over. No-one traded them a 600s prebuild for the whole game [14:55] [MasterZen] are you actually planning to build it? [14:55] [Trip] :P [14:55] [Cort] NO. [14:56] [Cort] I mean no. [14:56] [Trip] haha [14:56] [MasterZen] lol [14:56] [Trip] NOOOOOOO! [14:56] [Trip] ;D [14:56] [aggie] what a slip in a chat, ohhhh NOOOOO [14:56] [MasterZen] 4ABSOLUTLEY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ****ING WAY!!!!! [14:56] [Cort] Though we might if there's a cascade anytime [14:57] [MasterZen] Sistines... that's such an un-GoW-like wonder [14:57] [Cort] Actually, the best thing would be to let them build it then trash Legopolis, so it AND JSB are gone for ever! [14:57] [aggie] or you can take legopolis and then rush a palace their with a GL [14:58] [MasterZen] GL's are best used to rush warriors :P [14:58] [Cort] Actually we thought 'Pernies was a bit of an un-GoW-like wonder ... but there are better things ahead, right? [14:58] [MasterZen] hahahaha [14:58] [MasterZen] we like science. Gives us new weapons to kick butt with [14:59] [aggie] I must leave now, have fun [14:59] [Trip] like Sanitation [14:59] [Trip] [14:59] [MasterZen] cya aggie [14:59] [Cort] cya Aggie [15:00] * aggie has quit IRC (Quit: ) [15:01] [MasterZen] holy ****... you have no clue what just happened [15:02] [Cort] what? [15:02] [MasterZen] vondrack popped up in our other channel [15:04] [Cort] So he's seen us all here? hehe [15:04] [MasterZen] nope [15:04] [MasterZen] this room is private and password-protected [15:04] [Trip] secret, not private :P [15:04] [MasterZen] secret AND private [15:04] [Trip] nrstk [15:05] [Trip] if it was private it would have a p too [15:05] * opd has joined #GoW_CoFA [15:05] [opd] hey [15:05] [MasterZen] lo [15:05] [Cort] Hiya OPD [15:06] * Trip has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:06] * Trip[gone] has joined #gow_cofa [15:06] [Cort] So where were we - Lego's prebuild or tech deals? [15:06] [MasterZen] Lego [15:06] * Trip[gone] is now known as Trip [15:06] [Cort] They have a lot of luxuries in there for a 1-lux civ. [15:07] [MasterZen] yep [15:07] [Cort] ...mostly yours, I think, Zayxus [15:07] * MasterZen looks suspiciously at Zayxus... hee hee [15:08] [Cort] Lego have a loose build, with hospitals they can go full on metro everywhere and eat us all. [15:08] [MasterZen] those are GoWian grapes though [15:09] [MasterZen] I can tell. You can just feel the drunken power of the wine [15:09] * MasterZen opens a bottle of vintage 510 AD Dom Zenignon [15:10] [Cort] However, without luxuries thay'll struggle to keep top pop levels happy - even with the odd drop of GoW Cabernet Sauvignon [15:10] [MasterZen] this leads us to 3)... [15:10] [MasterZen] why don't we just invade their ass? [15:11] [Cort] Do they have a sea wall? [15:11] [MasterZen] nope [15:11] [Cort] Your KIDDING! [15:11] [MasterZen] not last time we checked... [15:12] [MasterZen] plus, there's like a gazillion landing sites [15:12] [Cort] Well go ahead guys. You killed all our units, remember [15:12] [MasterZen] not all of them... [15:12] [Cort] We have the remains on our wall. [15:13] [MasterZen] we can always sign a REAL NAP this time... [15:13] [Cort] Probably, yes. [15:13] [MasterZen] see, with all due respect, a GoW/ND invasion of Lego would kinda leave our asses unprotected... hey, we have to think of everything [15:14] [Cort] We'd probbaly call it a non-intervention agreement or something. NAP is such a dirty word these days. [15:14] [MasterZen] yes, very [15:15] [MasterZen] well the window of opportunity for a successful invasion of Lego slowly vanishes turn by turn... [15:16] [Cort] So we'd give the assurances you require. There is little mood for adventure in Stormia now. We read books and plan our late industrial defences ... [15:16] [MasterZen] plus, I'd hate Lego to win without a real fight [15:16] [Cort] Absolutely, they must bleed.

	15-02-2004 08:37									#2
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quote: part II [quote] [15:17] [MasterZen] the other possibility is beating them to Tanks by a long shot and then doing a late industrial war [15:17] [Cort] Nice to hit 'em before rails, though. [15:17] [MasterZen] yeah [15:18] [Cort] Why don't they make a sea wall? It's only 100 tiles. [15:18] [MasterZen] maybe they don't have 100 units... [15:18] [Cort] Are they still on Bob? [15:18] [asleepathewheel] have they withdrawn their knights from bob? [15:18] [asleepathewheel] doh [15:18] [Cort] Stormians think alike! [15:19] [MasterZen] lol [15:19] [MasterZen] I don't see any [15:20] [MasterZen] well let's agree on something [15:20] [Cort] We have two galleys left, I think, we could check. I'm amazed, we milk every damn tiler on our huble island and on Bon it's all left to the wildlike. Amazing [15:20] [Cort] forget all that [15:20] [MasterZen] what the hell happened to all the other galleys? [15:20] [Cort] keyboard trubble [15:20] [Cort] Yes, agreement. [15:20] [MasterZen] Re: 1) [15:21] [MasterZen] In theory we do ND - Nat, GoW - Med, GS - Steam [15:21] [Cort] Yes. [15:21] [MasterZen] we keep an eye out though for Vox, perhaps they might be willing to trade [15:21] [Cort] OK [15:22] * MasterZen has been sucking up to Vox as of late precisely thinking of that... [15:22] [Cort] is that what the wine is all about [15:22] [MasterZen] well maybe I can get them drunk too [15:22] [Cort] lol [15:23] [Cort] We have an idea about Vox [15:23] [MasterZen] then again, it's usally me who's drunk... hehe [15:23] [Cort] - but we're confused. [15:23] [MasterZen] i'm all ears [15:24] [Cort] I mean, we assume that Vox is working for Lego, but in our deals they seem almost independent. [15:24] [Cort] THey're trying to flog us Democracy. [15:24] [Cort] Thay won't take lux, they want cash or tech [15:24] [MasterZen] well. IMO, they're on their own but probably giving/receiveing techs with Lego [15:24] [Cort] But every time we get a tech that Lego has, Vox gets it that turn. [15:26] [Cort] We think they're trying to trade Demo for a mandatory tech that Lego don't have. We said "you'll have to wait before we can pay you physics, for certain other parties to get it" [15:26] [Cort] And we're waiting to see what they say to that. Why would they try to trade for tech, when Lego will give them it all, [15:27] [Cort] to get thm into the Ind Age for the freebie. [15:27] [MasterZen] of course [15:27] [MasterZen] you know, if Lux were still around, we'd probably be gang-banging them to give us their free tech too [15:28] [Cort] We might try and get RP to find out for us. they and Vox have ... empathy [15:28] [MasterZen] lol! [15:29] [Cort] MZ, whad do you think of a stack of RP conquistadors teaming through the dark heart of Lego and pillaging their resources? [15:29] [MasterZen] whoa, that'd be interesting [15:29] [MasterZen] explorer/conquistador pillaging is a devastating tactic [15:30] [MasterZen] we had so much fun with it in a modern start MP I played a few months ago [15:30] [Cort] I bet they'd be interested. THey have some time left on Navigation, though. It might be too late for your window. [15:31] [Cort] Speaking of Navigation- Lego have started Magellan [15:31] [MasterZen] yeah you told us that a while ago [15:31] [Cort] If it was a prebuild its GA next turn [15:32] [Cort] How about spying on Jackson? It's 178g. We could split that 3 ways and reveal some map. In fact, we could buy much of their map through investigating [15:33] [MasterZen] true [15:33] [MasterZen] maybe we'll reveal the giant doughnut shape [15:33] [Cort] Maybe wait a few turns on Jackson to see if they Build Smith's (GA) or Sistine. [15:34] [MasterZen] GoW would have to wait a bit too, we're a bit short on funds right now [15:34] [MasterZen] would ND agree to this? [15:34] * MasterZen looks at Zayxus... [15:35] [Cort] If they get their GA now it'll be too early for them. As long as non-one trades them Physics, Magnetism and ToG, they'll waste their GA not being able to research IA tech, and go 4 turn on MA tech instead. [15:36] [Cort] Funds - yeah, sorry 'bout that, Magnets are ready when you are, btw [15:36] [MasterZen] ahh good [15:37] [Cort] Frigates! Ocean! [15:37] [MasterZen] we have to scrape up the 200g first. I'd calculate in about 6-7 turns we'll send you the cash and tech [15:37] [Cort] :gasp: we can wait for the cash. We need Metallurgy before that. [15:37] [MasterZen] ok, we can trade techs this very turn [15:38] [Cort] Then it's just ToG. [15:38] [MasterZen] pretty much [15:40] [MasterZen] can we also agree that IF we decide to attack Lego, it has to be a joint GoW/ND/GS affair. If any of us doesn't want to, it just can't happen (successfuly) [15:40] [Cort] What do you need us for, apart from our obselete units well away from your ass? [15:41] [MasterZen] surely GS can field about 20-30 cavs in the medium term? [15:41] [MasterZen] obviously if you decide to assist, we'd provide GS with saltpeter [15:43] [Cort] I see, that would help, but we've burned our boats. They're mostly now a library. [15:43] [MasterZen] oh my, GS has turned hippie... [15:43] [Cort] Fraid so. [15:44] [Cort] We thought you'd be pleased [15:44] [MasterZen] where's your warmonger bunch, Arrian Theseus and SR? [15:45] [Cort] SR is retiring from DG play, [15:45] [Cort] Theseus wants to build a space ship, [15:47] [Cort] and Arrian is retaining the war-chickens as schoolteachers. We're very happy [15:47] [MasterZen] I see [15:48] [Cort] You guys can have a ton of Cav pretty soon [15:48] [MasterZen] you are aware that there's a big possibility that Stormia might not have at least one space ship resource? Lego on the other hand... [15:48] [Cort] I was joking about the space ship [15:48] [Cort] We'd get our asses nuked long before that. [15:49] [MasterZen] you know, it'd be funny as hell if Lego lacked uranium [15:50] [Cort] Yes, it would. What terrain types does it appear on? [15:51] [MasterZen] I believe forest, tundra... hills? [15:51] [Trip] hehe [15:51] * Trip goes to look where the uranium is... [15:52] [Cort] So, are you worried about your butt, or do you actually NEED another 20-30 units [15:52] [Trip] mountains [15:52] [MasterZen] a bit of both actually [15:52] [Cort] We've discussed it as a contingency, but we'd need to know what the war aims are, [15:52] [Trip] forest [15:52] [Trip] not hills [15:52] [MasterZen] war aims: reduction of Lego to the point that it is no longer a sure-fire winner [15:53] [Cort] sounds reasonable [15:53] [MasterZen] obviously complete destruction of Lego is well near impossible [15:53] [MasterZen] but a quick devastating strike against their core might do enough damange [15:53] [Cort] they need clipping, though [15:54] [MasterZen] and I figure that the 3 of us together can probably pull it off [15:54] [MasterZen] I mean, 30 cavs each = 90 [15:54] [Cort] a quick strike on the core sounds good [15:55] [Cort] That would leave GoW and ND with about 20 each to come and take Stormia ... [15:56] [MasterZen] yes pretty much... err... wait :P [15:57] [asleepathewheel] Good job cort, you tricked him. mwahaha [15:57] [MasterZen] dammit... all these years doing diplomacy only to slip up at the most obvious ruse... [15:58] [Cort] So no GS in the attack, no hit on Lego. Is that the bottom line? [15:58] [MasterZen] pretty much [15:59] [MasterZen] I mean seriously, I'm willing to give GS whatever assurances it wants that we'll not use it to attack stormia. I understand your paranoia just the same as we are paranoid of going alone [15:59] [asleepathewheel] we just remember Vox's second trip to Bob... [16:00] [Cort] We can put it to the team. The attack would have to be soon, though. How soon did you have in mind? [16:00] [opd] why not just [16:00] [opd] embargo them [16:00] [MasterZen] seriously, if I had to choose where to wield the might of GoW's army, I'd definitley use it where it matters most. If we go to war with GS it only gives Lego more time to win [16:01] [Cort] Yes, we were looking at economic measures to weaken Lego [16:02] [MasterZen] i'm not against that either [16:02] * aggie has joined #gow_cofa [16:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +o aggie [16:02] [Cort] A tech loop between GoW/ND/GS would lock Lego out - followed later by a luxury embargo to stop them growing cities much above 12 [16:03] [MasterZen] well, can I ask you a question? [16:03] [Cort] WGo on [16:04] [MasterZen] assuming we do that, what's GS's hope of victory other than space race with the less than certain odds of having every resource? [16:04] [Cort] We don't have a victury plan, just a survival plan. [16:05] [MasterZen] well, your unit wall is a survival plan in itself :P [16:05] [Cort] It's phase 1 [16:05] [aggie] we saw it [16:05] [Cort] please come and look. It's very nice. [16:05] [MasterZen] I already did [16:06] [MasterZen] it's worse than U.S. Customs at JFK Airport after 9/11 [16:06] [aggie] I wouldn't go that far MZ [16:06] [Cort] You guys have enough strength to hurt Lego without us. that leaves your security. We can work on that. [16:07] [MasterZen] not even a token expeditionary force? [16:08] [MasterZen] I mean, we'd end up splitting the conquered territories after all... [16:08] [Cort] We wouldn't be able to hold them from you. Or Lego. they'll still be there. [16:09] [MasterZen] seriously, wouldn't providing GS with saltpeter be proof enough of our intentions? [16:10] [opd] yeah but you don't really need us? [16:10] [Cort] Quite possibly, one for the team to consider. A token force is not unthinkable ... [16:11] [MasterZen] my point is that the more troops we can manage, the more certain our victory, and the bigger the spoils [16:12] [Cort] We're not confident of holding those spoils, but what do you envisage - trash a few cities in the core and replace them with our own? [16:13] [aggie] the main point if we choose this course could be a scorched earch policy to destroy the economic and military poterntial of Lego [16:13] [MasterZen] and keep their resources [16:14] [MasterZen] and brag in the public forum [16:15] [Trip] mainly the last part :P [16:16] [Cort] THat'd be a GoW thang [16:16] [MasterZen] you know the whole reason for this is to provide entertainment for Trip :P [16:16] [Trip] of course... [16:16] [Trip] [16:17] [Cort] Trimming that Green blob would be great. Entertainment for Vox, too. They might see something this time. [16:17] [Trip] it's fun predicting how things will turn and watching things unfold [16:17] * Trip thinks Legoland ought to have had a neighbor :P [16:17] [MasterZen] err.. they do have a neighbor :P [16:18] [Cort] Yeah, did Lego edit the map or something at the begining? [16:18] [Trip] :P [16:18] [Trip] a neighbor to start the game, that is [16:18] [MasterZen] wait, just you wait... unitl you see the doughnut hole! :P [16:18] [Trip] NYE was the one that started the game, IIRC :P [16:19] [Trip] it'd be kind of hard for Lego to mod the map :P [16:19] [Cort] 480 tiles for one civ. Lucky them. [16:19] [Trip] I don't know if anyone saw the thread I posted a while back [16:20] [Trip] about if there were an 8th civ [16:20] [MasterZen] I did [16:20] [MasterZen] they'd be RP's neighbors :P [16:20] [Trip] it would have been west of RP [16:21] [Cort] So we're agreed on everything except commitment of GS troops against Lego... [16:21] [MasterZen] yeah [16:21] [MasterZen] well, it's not like GoW and ND participation is 100% assured either :P [16:21] [MasterZen] but I like to bring up the ideas first [16:24] [Cort] So if GS don't join in, it doesn't happen. What happens to all those units if you don't attack Lego? No, I mustn;t ask that [16:24] [MasterZen] well, I haven't really said that either... [16:25] [MasterZen] but I'd say the chances of attacking Lego are greatly diminished... [16:25] [Cort] OK, this needs to be taken back to the forum [16:25] [MasterZen] sure thang [16:25] [Cort] But on the tech deal ... does that still sound good? [16:26] [MasterZen] oh definitely [16:26] [MasterZen] does ND like the idea too? [16:28] [Zayxus] yeah [16:29] [Cort] great! [16:30] [MasterZen] cool, I'll see if I can hog something out of Vox though [16:30] [MasterZen] (the things I do for a free tech...) [16:30] [Cort] so we are concluded for now? [16:30] [MasterZen] yeah, at least on my part [16:31] [MasterZen] who wants logs? [16:31] [Cort] yes please [16:31] [MasterZen] to the address you sent me the e-mail right before the chat? [16:31] [Cort] Yes - thanks [16:31] [MasterZen] ok [16:32] * Trip has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:32] [MasterZen] yey, he left, now we can goof off :P [16:32] * Trip has joined #gow_cofa [16:32] [MasterZen] well, I am hungry, and I have a nice big piece of salmon in the fridge whispering "eat me... eat me" [16:33] [MasterZen] and I feel so bad if I didn't comply [16:33] [Cort] ok , thanks everone, 'till next time. And PM's meantime [16:33] * aggie has left #gow_cofa [16:33] [MasterZen] great [16:33] [MasterZen] nice to have you guys around [16:33] [Cort] you too - cya [16:33] [MasterZen] I can honestly say it is now a pleasure to chat with GS [16:33] [Cort] [16:33] * Cort has left #GoW_CoFA [16:34] [Zayxus] [16:34] [Trip] [16:34] [asleepathewheel] oh this is over? I enjoyed listening in, later. [16:34] [MasterZen] cya sleepy [16:34] * asleepathewheel has quit IRC (Quit: ) [16:34] * opd has quit IRC (Quit: ) End of #gow_cofa buffer Thu Feb 12 16:35:46 2004

	15-02-2004 09:19									#3
	Got spare money?

mwahaha... lets get Legos!