16-02-2004 20:34									#1
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I just found this on some RoN fansite:

quote: Classical: Despotism: Government controlled by one tyrannical ruler with absolute powers. Military research and Barracks units 25% cheaper. Receive the Despot Patriot (a General who also provides supply, Line-of-Sight, and plunder bonuses). or Republic: Government controlled by elected representatives who may (or may not) represent the will of the people. Commerce Limit increased by 50. Receive The Senator Patriot (a General who also provides healing, bribing, and building defense bonuses). Gunpowder: Monarchy: Government controlled by a single hereditary ruler. Stable units are 25% cheaper and faster to build. Receive The King Patriot (a General who also provides supply, siege, and mounted combat benefits). or Democracy: Government whose rulers are elected by all citizens and represent the will of the people. Non-Library technologies 20% cheaper. Receive The President Patriot (a General who also provides production, building, and healing benefits). Industrial: Socialism: Government wherein production and distribution of goods are determined by equity rather than market principles. Factory, Airbase, and Dock units 20% cheaper and faster to build. Receive The Comrade Patriot (a General who also provides supply, combat, and assimilation benefits). or Capitalism: Government wherein production and distribution of goods are determined by a free and competitive market. Receive +100 Oil income and 500 Oil. Receive The CEO Patriot (a General who also provides defense, range, and healing benefits).

It also say that when "shifiting" government, you keep the bonuses from the earlier governments also. When researching a special age, you get to chose from two governments...

I don't like the idea about the special unit, the different governments gives...

	16-02-2004 20:37									#2
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And here's another version of the different governments:

quote: Despotism: Cheaper Military research. Increased line-of-sight for Scouts and Ships. Lowered Attrition Damage. Cheaper Infantry and Cavalry. Republic: Increased Commerce Limit. Increased Taxation rate. Cheaper Merchants and Caravans. Increased City Limits. Cheaper cost for all Wonders. Monarchy: Cheaper Military research. Increased National Borders. Cheaper Cavalry. Increased Food and Metal production. Democracy: Increased Commerce Limit. Increased Taxation rate. Produces Infantry faster. Cheaper Ships. Capitalism: Increased Commerce Limit. Increased Taxation rate. Ships and Aircraft produced faster. All Wonders cheaper. Socialism: Increased National Borders. All ground units cheaper. All buildings produced cheaper (except Wonders). Enemy city assimilation faster.

	22-02-2004 06:07									#3
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Despotism, Republic, Democracy and Monarchy are political systems, while Capitalism and Socialism are economical systems.
So does it mean economical systems begin only at industrial age ? How can we mix the both any ways ?

EDIT : SMAC players...

	26-02-2004 19:35									#4
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I just had a look in the rules files, and found this:

code:

< SENATE_HP_BONUS value="35%" / >
< SENATE_ARMOR_BONUS value="1 armor per city level" / >

	26-02-2004 20:47									#5
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yeah the said on ronh or some other site that it was in the oringal game but they didnt have time to put it in there and balance it so they left if for the x pack

	17-04-2004 23:51									#6
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When can we have Eudaimonia? I want nekked men in Virtual World harnesses! :doitnow:

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	24-04-2004 17:21									#7
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I take it from the above silence that nobody else wants naked men in Virtual World harnesses.

So, can you only choose to have one leadership type at any given time?

Dictatorship and democracy are NOT in the same choice bracket, it seems. So theoretically could you have a nation that goes Dictatorship/Democracy/Socialism?

	24-04-2004 20:07									#8
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Are governments supposed to be in an expansion pack or something? I have not yet seen this feature in RoN.

Forgive me, I haven't been keeping up to date on the news.

	24-04-2004 20:15									#9
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Alinestra Covelia >>

Dictatorship is not among the choices...


Save >>

Yep, an expansion pack which just went gold

	25-04-2004 08:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by ADG I don't like the idea about the special unit, the different governments gives...

I do not like the idea of the special init either. Or at least the fact that it acts as a supply wagon. It reduces value of attrition, and supply wagons. It makes disadvantage for Russians, which is not compensated by other advantages.

It would be better if that unit only reduced attrition and did not act as a supply wagon for artillery.

	26-04-2004 05:19									#11
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Is this expansion pack worth getting?

	26-04-2004 08:09									#12
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I've been wondering that myself.

I've been disappointed more than once with expansion packs.

	26-04-2004 21:10									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Is this expansion pack worth getting?

When it's released we'll know

	27-04-2004 09:26									#14
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Any ETA on release date? Or is it gonna be delayed again?

	27-04-2004 10:57									#15
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It went gold two weeks ago and is expected to hit the stores in the US this week (it'll take another 2-3 weeks for Europe and probably even longer for the rest of the world). If you're in the US, you may want to keep an eye out for it...

	27-04-2004 11:41									#16
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Oh, and while we wait, I highly recommend trying the demo -- I'm having a blast playing it myself

It also lets you try out the government and see if the expansion is worth getting

(Must say I'm slightly underwhelmed with the governments feature so far, but especially the campaigns seem to make it more than worth getting)

	27-04-2004 16:12									#17
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its in stores today i believe in the usa atleast

	27-04-2004 19:59									#18
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In stores already? Have you actually seen them on the shelves?

	27-04-2004 22:09									#19
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Alinestra Covelia >> Dictatorship is not among the choices...

Despotism, then.

Never mind. In the time lapse since my post and your response I'm sure everybody's forgotten the original question.

	27-04-2004 23:32									#20
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You mean everybody around here forgets within 24 hours? My response was made the same day as your question...