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Who would you rather have playable? (Time out:0 days after 18-02-2004, 19:20)
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Eivind IV is offline Eivind IV
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Italy or Ottoman Empire? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I won't say anything more exept that I've begun on a new project from the early 20th century. And I need to know what the people's opinion is .

My question to you is: Who would you rather see playable; The Italians or the Ottomans?

Cast your vote please!

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Arthedain is offline Arthedain
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Stop making us curious like this..


edit: spelling

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This scenario: it wouldn't happen to be Italy's invasion of Ottoman-held Libya before WW1?

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I wonder who picked option 3?

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@Curt: Yes, I do as well *cough*

@our_manWell, as I said above I won't say anything. But it's in the era of the Russo-Japanses war, the Balcan war and even the Italy-Ottoman war

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Yeah, do the Balcan wars, or perhaps you could begin inthe early 19th century and then unfold the events until 1923, when Turkey became what it is today.

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Would be hard to script all the treaties

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I think probably the Ottomans: although they were well on the way to becoming the 'Sick man of Europe' they were still a more significant power than Italy at the turn of the century.

What are the other civs BTW? I'm guessing Britain, France, Russia, Germany, USA and Japan?

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I won't say anything, only that you're a good guesser, Fairline!

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Certainly the Ottomans: they controlled a much more significant slice of the world, and think of it if the empire had lasted longer? It would have been a far more important occurance to the world than anything Italy really did.

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My question to you is: Who would you rather see playable; The Italians or the Ottomans?


Ehm, of course I have to vote for my homeland

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Gotta go with the Sublime Porte.

Btw, I have a bunch of links and book info, though mainly from 1914 onwards.

The Ottoman Conscription System gives a good description of Ottoman army units from 1844-1913 (they overhauled it in late 1913 after the Balkan debacle).

Storia d' Italia has some good timelines for the Turco-Italian war, but might require some help from Justinianum

Need units? They're not mine to give, but the artist would probably part with them for a virtual pint.

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Great links! Thanks!

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I'm all ears...!

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Bah. I use ottomans for footstools.

Seriously though, I guess I'd say the Ottomans too. Pretty big chunk of land to be representing as part of Shah Neutral Leader's Empire, or leave empty, or (god forbid) represent with barbarians. Dunno what the alternative would be though.

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What are the other civs BTW? I'm guessing Britain, France, Russia, Germany, USA and Japan?


That or Britain, France, Russia, Germany, Austria and Spain

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No, Austria-Hungary and Germany will be one...whooops! And I who wouldn't say anything??!

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As Justinianum,

I vote for my homeland, too.

Evev if Libia will reveal itself... a SABLE BOX !!!
(Italian didn't discover oil ... in those days...)

Buon lavoro!!!

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well, IMHO Eivind is the coolest guy in the world.

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Ottomans are more interesting, and larger.

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well, IMHO Eivind is the coolest guy in the world.


Well said, amigo!

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No, Austria-Hungary and Germany will be one...whooops! And I who wouldn't say anything??!


Hopefully it's on a world-map then

Eivind IV is offline Eivind IV
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Ermmm...silencium!

Wouldn't it be fun to carve up this sick man of Europe and leave it to the indepenents?

Man! How I wish civ2 had more civs.

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Could anyone please help me do a map check; see if cities are placed correctly and spelled correctly. Ignore all the swamp land and the fact that the ottomans are not a civ.

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