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What do you think about Nader? (Time out:0 days after 19-02-2004, 10:16)
Nader is a tool of fascist republicans
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Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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You didn't put a smily, so he was within his Poly rights.

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Commies are not entitled to any Poly rights.

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*ahem*

I'm the thread starter.

Got any substantive opinions on Nader, boys?

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Commies are not entitled to any Poly rights.


Well according to the Bill of Poly Rights neither are gays...

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Oh, please, please, please let Moore run!


Ain't gonna matter. Remember, the Republicans have more party discipline. They'll come out for Bush.


Oh, I don't think you can necessarily count on that this time around. The Dems are far more unified in their base and opposition to Bush this time around, and the religious conservatives are grumbling a LOT about Bush. A highly-visible run by Moore would likely attract many evangelicals, and this could tip the balance in a close state like Florida.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/2...15609-3712r.htm

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Nader is running.

Ultimately, didn't make a difference in 2000, won't make a difference in 2004.

The same is true of Moore.

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I think I will go undercover and found an evangelical Christian party to break the back of the Republicans. Who knows, these people are such suckers I might even be able to get rich doing it too.

In other news, Randal Terry has moved to Jacksonville.

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Commies are not entitled to any Poly rights.


Well according to the Bill of Poly Rights neither are gays...



bad comeback

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A highly-visible run by Moore would likely attract many evangelicals, and this could tip the balance in a close state like Florida.


Well, if you like the man and his policies so much, why don't you vote for him yourself?

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Well, if you like the man and his policies so much, why don't you vote for him yourself?


Huh? Who said anything about liking him or his policies? See, I'm hoping he draws Republican votes away from Bush.

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Oh, I don't think you can necessarily count on that this time around. The Dems are far more unified in their base and opposition to Bush this time around, and the religious conservatives are grumbling a LOT about Bush. A highly-visible run by Moore would likely attract many evangelicals, and this could tip the balance in a close state like Florida.


Of course I can count on it . In the end, Bush will tell the Christian Right that if you don't vote for him, Kerry will win and will allow abortions on demand and fund condomn give-aways at schools, etc. Christian Right isn't as ideological pure as the Commies. They'll sell out for a piece of the pie.

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They'll sell out for a piece of the pie.


Not necessarily.

As for Boris,

I get such a laugh to hear you praise an evangelical who is running for president.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004...ain601254.shtml

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My own question to Pat Robertson is this: The election looks as though it could be close, certainly not a blowout. If George W. Bush loses the election to a Democrat, will you become an atheist?


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http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/in...?bid=1&pid=1276

Good article on Nader's prospects. Most interesting part:

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Those in the Bush White House and its echo chambers on right-wing talk radio and the Fox television network, who have been delighting in the prospect of a Nader run, may not be laughing for long. Judge Roy Moore, the Alabama jurist whose fight to display the Ten Commandments on state property drew national attention last year, is being courted by the right-wing Constitution Party as a potential presidential candidate. (The Constitution Party was on the ballot in 41 states in 2000, and retains a solid network of activist supporters nationwide.) With growing numbers of core conservatives angered by Bush's policies on immigration, federal spending and individual liberties, a Moore candidacy could develop into a serious problem for the president. More than 20 percent of the voters in January's New Hampshire Republican primary cast ballots for someone other than Bush; more than 10 percent of Oklahoma Republican primary voters did the same. Come November, Moore could pose a greater threat to Republican prospects than Nader will to the Democrats.

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Ramo, in another thread Ben has already acknowledged he is Moore's "core" and said he'd vote for Bush. I don't think Moore will be that big of a challenge.

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Bush's policies on immigration, federal spending and individual liberties,




I support immigration.

Federal spending is not that big an issue.

Individual liberties, is not an issue for religious Conservatives.

So, if these are the kind of people who have a problem with Bush, they are not going to be on the far right.

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Individual liberties, is not an issue for religious Conservatives.

So, if these are the kind of people who have a problem with Bush, they are not going to be on the far right.


You ever listen to Pat Robertson. I know he'll vote Bush, but many Christians get the life scared out of them when they hear about their privacy being invaded, they think it is the beginning of the Tribulation.

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It's more an issue for libertarians, who are not on the far right.

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Ben, you actually are quite moderate compared to some elements of American politics. Parts of the religious-right are up in arms at what Shrub is doing, and some of them may bolt given the opportunity.

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What?

An anarchist calling me moderate?

* Ben Kenobi faints.

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All this talk about the right revolting against Bush is really silly talk. Idealistic blabber, kind of like how people said Dean was going to win the Dem nomination .

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I think I'm going to vote for Nader. Anyone see him on Meet the Press last night? He sounded good. Kerry is a slimey politician (see his voting record), Bush is well...Bush.

Nader is the man. I don't care if I am indirectly voting for Bush. I cannot in good faith vote for Kerry or Bush.

Too bad Arnold isn't running

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Some enterprising Democrat ought to remember the Wallace third party campaign of '68.

 
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