19-02-2004 17:17									#1
	Calling all ToT owners! Please help me make a map! Inflate your Upload Space

Hi there!

I wish to ask anyone who has the time to help me place cities on a ToT map.

The goal is to create a copy of the Dictator 3 map...
Then again, it might be a good chance to create a new WW2 map!

What I had planned was the volunteer poster(s) and I would take a civ each and place cities and improvements...

This task would assure that all important cities are placed where the community wants them.

I am always up for co-operation in making scenarios as they are made with the CIV2 communities in mind!

The powers are:
Germany
USSR
USA
Brit Commonwealth
Japan
Neutrals

Using the Dictator 3 map, I have a full list of city co-ordinates made by Poly OT crusader, Ben Kenobi!

So placing will be easy enough!

Please help me make Dictator-3 ToT a reality!

*Aragorn mode*
"What say you?"

	19-02-2004 17:19									#2
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The Cities as made by Ben Kenobi!

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Third Reich
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Berlin - 138,58
Leipzig - 137,61
Hamburg - 136,56
Königsberg- 144,54
Frankfurt - 135,63
München - 137,65
Milano - 136,68
Rome - 137,71
Tirana - 142,70
Trieste - 139,67
Prague - 139,63
Stettin - 139,55
Tobruk - 146,84
Tripoli -138,84
Trondheim - 138,40
Vienna - 141,65
Warsaw - 146,58
Amsterdam - 133,57
Bergen - 135,45
Breslau - 141,61
Copenhagen -136,52
Danzig - 142,56
Hammerfest - 146,34
Helsinki - 146,34
Köln - 134,60
Narvik - 142,36
Oslo - 138,48
Brest - 127,61
Paris - 130,62
Lyon - 132,66
Marseille - 133,69
Perpignan - 130,70
Nantes - 128,64
Bordeaux - 128,68
Poznan - 143,59
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USSR
--------
Moscow - 156,52
Leningrad - 150,44
West Stalingrad - 161,63
East Stalingrad - 164,62
Kiev - 153,59
Minsk - 151,55
Odessa - 151,63
Omsk - 185,55
Orenburg - 169,61
Orsk - 174,64
Petropavlovsk - 243,55
Sevastopol - 153,65
Tblisi - 159,71
Pskov - 151,51
Riga - 147,51
Rostov - 156,64
Saratov - 163,57
Tallinn - 148,48
Ufa - 170,54
Vladivostok - 221,69
Vologda - 157,47
Yakutsk - 219,49
Yekaterinburg - 177,51
Alma Ata - 176,72
Arkhangelsk - 157,41
Astrakhan - 164,66
Baku - 162,72
Chelyabinsk - 176,56
Guryev - 167,65
Irkutsk - 202,58
Kazan - 164,54
Khabarovsk - 223,59
Kharkov - 156,60
Krasnodar - 157,67
Krasnovodsk - 168,74
Krasnoyarsk - 194,54
Kursk - 156,56
Magadan - 237,47
Murmansk - 151,35
Gorkiy- 161,51
NOVOSIBIRSK - 189,53
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USA
--------
Washington DC - 74,76
New York - 77,71
Boston - 79,67
Philadelphia - 75,73
Atlanta - 70,80
Chicago - 65,71
Seattle - 44,66
San Francisco - 43,77
Miami - 72,88
Houston - 60,86
Buffalo - 74,68
St-Louis - 64,74
Saipan - 247,103
Salt Lake City - 49,73
San Juan - 84,102
Tallahassee - 70,84
Wake - 262,100
Anchorage - 24,46
Bismarck - 56,66
Davao - 218,114
Guam - 244,108
Honolulu - 18,104
Detroit - 70,68
New Orleans - 64,84
Denver - 57,73
Dallas - 60,80
Los Angeles - 46,80
San Diego - 47,83
Phoenix - 52,80
Minneapolis - 62,66
Pittsburgh - 71,73
Manila - 214,106
Midway - 280,82
Panama - 73,113
Portland - 43,71

PIERRE

OKLAHOMA CITY

ST. LOUIS should be at 65,77

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British Allies
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London - 128,56
Plymouth - 126,58
Glasgow - 126,50
Belfast - 124,54
Luanda - 138,32
Madras - 186,108
Mandalay - 197,97
Mecca - 159,97
Melbourne - 230,172
Montreal - 76,62
Nairobi - 155,125
Newcastle - 128,52
Perth - 211,163
Port Moresby - 233,135
Quebec - 79,61
Rabaul - 236,130
Rangoon - 197,103
Regina - 51,59
Salisbury - 146,150
Singapore - 202,120
Suez - 153,87
Sydney - 235,167
Thunder Bay - 66,62
Toronto - 72,64
Valletta - 139,77
Vancouver - 44,62
Walvis Bay - 141,157
Wellington - 252,172
Winnipeg - 56,60
Addis Abeba - 156,112
Adelaide - 227,165
Aden - 161,105
Alexandria - 149,87
Athens - 144,74
Baghdad - 160,80
Bandjarmasin - 209,125
Bangalore - 183,105
Batavia - 204,130
Bombay - 181,95
Brisbane - 236,160
Broome - 216,148
Brunei - 210,116
Cairo - 150,90
Calcutta - 192,94
Canberra - 232,168
Cape Town - 142,168
Cooktown - 231,143
Damascus - 156,82
Darwin - 223,139
Delhi - 184,88
Durban - 149,63
Frederikshab - 95,47
Georgetown - 86,116
Gibraltar - 126,76
Hong Kong - 209,99
Hyderabad - 185,99
Iraklion - 146,78
Jerusalem - 155,85
Johannesburg - 148,58
Karachi - 176,90
Kathmandu - 192,88
Khartoum - 152,104
Kuala Lumpur - 201,117
Lagos - 133,117
Lahore - 180,82
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Brisbane needs to be moved to 233,153

Japanese Empire
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Tokyo - 228,78
Truk - 242,118
Amoy - 211,95
Aomori - 228,72
Changchung - 217,67
Chengdu - 209,81
Formosa - 214,96
Fuzhou - 213,91
Hakodate - 230,70
Hanoi - 203,99
Harbin - 219,63
Iwo Jima - 235,95
Karafuto - 229,65
Kyoto - 225,77
Mijsaki - 224,84
Nanjing - 212,84
Nunchang - 210,90
Okinawa - 221,89
Osaka - 226,80
Peking - 210,76
Qingdao - 214,80
Saigon - 204,112
Sapporo - 231,67
Sendai - 229,75
Seoul - 218,76
Shanghai - 214,86
Shenyang - 215,71
Shimonoseki - 223,81
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NOTES

SAIGON should be
at 205,109


Neutral Allies
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Madrid - 125,73
Bangkok - 201,109
Barcelona - 128,74
Belem - 92,124
Buenos Aires - 87,163
Casablanca - 124,82
Dakar - 118,106
Havana - 73,95
Istanbul - 150,70
Izmir - 149,75
Lima - 73,131
Merida - 66,98
Mexico - 61,101
Monrovia - 126,116
Monterrey - 59,93
Montevideo - 91,163
Oran - 129,79
Padang - 197,121
Porto Alegre - 95,153
Recife - 105,135
Reikjavik - 114,42
Rio de Janeiro - 101,147
San Julian - 82,180
Santiago - 80,162
Santo Domingo - 80,100
Stockholm - 141,45
Tarfaya - 119,89
Tunis - 136,78
Algiers - 132,78
Ankara - 152,72
Arica - 75,141
Bahia Blanca - 86,172
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OMISSIONS:

Caracas 80,112
Medellin 77,117
Quito 74,124
San Juan 68,108


Eastern
--------
Budapest - 144,64
Belgrade - 145,67
Bucharest - 148,66
Baotou - 206,74
Baiyu - 198,90
Yinchuan - 201,71
Xining - 197,75
Xi'an - 205,79
Wuhan - 207,87
Turpan - 194,68
Tehran - 166,80
Shiraz - 167,89
Lanzhou - 201,77
Langchow - 207,69
Kunming - 201,95
Kashgar - 189,69
Kabul - 175,79
Guiyang -205,93
Chengdu - 202,88

	19-02-2004 19:03									#3
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If the cities are the same, couldn't you use CivConverter to change the MGE version to ToT? That should save some time...

	19-02-2004 21:25									#4
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Civconvertor does not make fully workable scn files.

I could not open certain menus, for instance...

	19-02-2004 21:53									#5
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Isn't that a textfile issue, or solved if you open it as a savegame? Or maybe this can be fixed by copying the map and city sections of the CivConverted scenario to a new ToT one or so.

	19-02-2004 22:30									#6
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Well at the heart of the matter, it's really just the scn file that needs converted, unless I am wrong?

I have made all the other txt and graphic files...

Do you have a copy of the convertor?
It's a process I can no longer do, as my current OS does not like MS-DOS actions...

	19-02-2004 23:00									#7
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Yes I do... I could have a little try, if you attach/mail the scenario/savegame.

Edit: I don't know how fast I'll be though.

Last edited by Mercator on 19-02-2004 at 23:09

	20-02-2004 13:51									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Mercatore Uno Yes I do... I could have a little try, if you attach/mail the scenario/savegame. Edit: I don't know how fast I'll be though.

No problem...I would be grateful.
I'll try this option to try and shave off some development time.

And there is no big rush, just post in this thread when you get the chance.

Good luck!

	20-02-2004 14:46									#9
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Here's the first attempt... A scenario and savegame. The scenario is just a straight conversion. I created the savegame by loading the scenario (as a savegame) and saving it.

Attachment: d3.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	20-02-2004 15:10									#10
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Great work, Mercator!

I am in your debt!

It seems that the conversion process resets all civ contact to 0.

To re-align the civ's contact is a case of merely putting a unit next to a rival city/unit.

This has saved me a few week's work!

	20-02-2004 15:16									#11
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Let's hope there aren't any unexpected problems down the road, so you have to do it all anyway... After first working on this one for a few weeks.

Oh, and don't forget to thank Angelo Scotto!

	20-02-2004 16:34									#12
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Curt, if you retain your original unit placement, check their orders. CivConverter doesn't always correctly translate "go to" orders. They often end up as "build transporter" or "no orders".

	20-02-2004 17:56									#13
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@Mercatore:
I will, don't worry about that!

@Catfish:
There are no move orders at the moment, but I will check everything...

	20-02-2004 23:19									#14
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Curt,

You do such good work, that I eagerly await your scenarios. Played and loved all of the Dictator versions and really appreciate people who design for TOT. I even enjoyed Battle of WW2 on TOT. Keep up the good work.

	22-02-2004 15:31									#15
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Kaptain Ken!

Many thanks!

Dictator 3 will be an attempt to make my best scen ever.
I plan to make avi movies for it, and give it the works in terms of events!

Stay tuned, dude!