18-03-2004 03:22									#91
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Made another post.

More coming soon!

	27-03-2004 00:57									#92
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Dammit, guys.

A week, and not even a peep or any kind of post in the discussion thread?

I hope you guys are still around.

I also hope I don't have to carry BAC onwards on my shoulders if you guys are really gone.

	27-03-2004 02:57									#93
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* Lonestar thinks it has something to do with the jaffa, and points out there have been many times while he has carried on and drove the Protectorate because no one else was posting.

	27-03-2004 11:08									#94
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* Mr. President thinks we need to cool it already about the crossover issue

	27-03-2004 11:11									#95
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Anyway, I apologize for not posting. You wouldn't believe what kind of a schedule the engineering department has me on this year.

When I'm not listening to idiots talking about polymers, I've been dreaming about ideas for the Drone and Hive conflict. Basically I imagine Franco's flotilla getting drawn into GHE space and ambushed.

I'm planning to have Franco die, by the way.

	28-03-2004 06:31									#96
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I'm still here, but rather busy a lot of the time... hopefully not for long, though.

	29-03-2004 01:25									#97
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Heh.

Good to hear from you Prez aqnd General. I'm glad you guys are still around.

I perfectly understand you guys being busy with work and classes. Hell, I go through the same thing myself last fall and winter.

I just wanted to know if you guys were still alive.


Lonestar, I'm putting the Goa'uld and Stargate plot-line to a close. I think there's going to be 2 more posts about that, so the whole issue will be resolved, then we can move on without worrying any further about these characters and races (Goa'uld and Jaffa).

Anyways, I'm probably going to finish the storyline within the next two weeks. Then afterwards, the UA might engage in one more war, then after that, the UA won't engage in warfare again until either the Progenitors or the Massive Alien Threat.

The UA's blitzkrieg attacks are very similiar to Nazi Germany, and that is my intent. However, there won't be any megalomnia or an evil Hitler-like persona for the Academician.

He will probably be more like Julius Caesar and either Aristotle or Thomas Edison rolled into one.

	29-03-2004 04:24									#98
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Sounds cool. Beware the Ides of March!

That reminds me. I've been thinking about having an electoral cycle in the Drone Republic, probably after the Hive conflict. I thought I could showcase some of the political practices and intrigue in the Republic.

Further, I might make Adams lose to the Socialists because of public anger over her handling of the Hive conflict, among other issues.

That in turn might affect relations with other factions, and change the political climate before the Progenitor War.

	29-03-2004 05:02									#99
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Sounds like a good idea.

In my opinion, there has been too much warfare lately, with things blowing each other up.

Hence, my decision to shift my storytelling to less military aspects after I finish the Goa'uld and the one yet undecided war.

I have an idea for that war, but I dunno if I should do it.

You see, I checked the map on the BAC website. I noticed the Gaians and Cyborgs lie directly between UA main territories and Sol.

So the UA might need to annex either faction to have a continuous border from the west / southwest area of the galaxy all the way to Sol.

Since Alyznia isn't coming back at all, and it doesn't look like there'll be new writers anytime soon, I thought I would do the blitzkrieg aganist either the Gaians or the Cyborgs.

This could kill a couple birds with a stone. First, it would eliminate a faction to keep BAC interesting. It would be the first time a Chironian faction actually conquers another Chironian faction. Second, it would help to cut down on the "too many factions" problem.

So far, the only major factions would be the UA, Morganites, Drones, Hive, Sparta, Cadre, the Protectorate, and the now defunct Terran Alliance.

The only two minor factions that saw action / story postings would be the Believers and Peacekeepers.

The Cult of Planet, Gaians, and the Cyborgs are pretty much nonexistent, storywise and author-wise.

The UA attack on either Gaians or Cyborgs would be remiscient of Hitler's blitzkrieg aganist Czech, annexing it to ensure Mediterrean ports and a continuous territory from Germany and Austria to the shores of the Mediterrean.

What do you think?

	29-03-2004 05:59									#100
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I certainly think that would be interesting. It would definitely be a kind of story we haven't had too much of recently.

Certainly the Cyborgs have never had a human writer and don't look like getting one anytime soon. I think, though, Frankychan said there was some sort of unofficial relationship between the Gaians and the Hive. There might be something about it on his web site.

Broadly, however, I approve.

	30-03-2004 00:12									#101
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I'll go ahead and deal with the Cyborgs.

However, I'll delay the Gaian conquest until after the Cyborgs, so Franky can comment or offer ideas about the Gaians, and how it will affect the Hive.

However, I have an idea for that. Perhaps the main Gaian territory will be conquered, and the surviving Gaians flee to their special moon inside the Hive borders.

That way, the Gaians will still exist in some form, but as a very minor player, not as a "major" power / faction.

	30-03-2004 08:13									#102
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Sounds like tempting fate there, Sovereign. Emperor Yang is a mean fellar when provoked.

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Sorry guys for not checking in....

Anyway, here's how I see it. If the University starts attacking Gaian holdings, and with the Hive already being whipped up into a bloodlust, it would be a perfect chance for both of us to eliminate the Gaians. I would probably have to make it where Yang breaks the unofficial treaty with the Gaians...but I think it's possible.

Yang will see the University attacking Gaian holdings as a cue for the Hive to wipe out the Gaians from the Hive. Basically, I'll make it where GHE will look like a bunch of conniving meanies....

....OR I can make Yang be the "protector" and keep any Gaians inside Hive space as refugee's. In either way, the Gaians will be destroyed and the University-Hive relationship will not be damaged.

(more of my thoughts coming up real fast........I have to switch work stations).

	30-03-2004 12:28									#104
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....back.

Anyway, as stated before, I'm going to show readers "how we do it Hive-style". I want to show that the Hive is pretty brutal when it comes to invasions and such.

As for the Drone-Hive "altercations", Crimson, can you give some idea's on how you want stuff to go? I'll get my post up within a couple of days (I have sporadic internet connection now). But I'll stop short of us actually attacking each other.

This University-Gaian Vendetta is pretty interesting. But just to be fair, I'll probably keep the Gaian holdings in Hive territory, effectively making them indentured servants to Yang. This way, they are out of the picture indefinitely, but will still remain if someone down the line wants to take them over again

	30-03-2004 12:42									#105
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Greetings once again!

quote: As for the Drone-Hive "altercations", Crimson, can you give some idea's on how you want stuff to go? I'll get my post up within a couple of days (I have sporadic internet connection now). But I'll stop short of us actually attacking each other.

No problem.

Last time we saw them, the three Hive Corvettes of the advance scout force wiped out a couple of Franco's ships, but were still outnumbered about thirty-odd to one. What I thought might happen is that Franco beats them and advances into Hive territory (both because of his standing orders and because of over-confidence), where he gets jumped by the real military.

I imagine that Franco's people are unprepared for the Hive ships' tactics: the collectivist actions, the patterns of force concentration, the occasional suicidal attacks. Though the Drones themselves use some similar ideas (my idea for the climax of the battle was for Franco to use his crippled command ship as a battering ram), I think they should come out much the worse from this encounter.

Does that more or less make sense?

	30-03-2004 13:15									#106
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Heck yeah!

Hmmmm, AFAIK the 3 corvettes were still headed toward the fleet. Another 3 ships intercepted the Drone spy ship, those that aren't part of the fleet.

So, the 3 hive ships that destroyed the Drone probeship are gone, but the 3 Corvettes are headed toward the fleet. We could have the Drone fleet obliterate Hive ships (but they send a signal saying that Drones are attacking), Drone fleet enters into Hive space where they encounter the fleet which is commencing in orbital bombardments.

There, the Hive ships take on the industrial powerhouse ships of the Drone armada. I'm thinking Drone ships are more rugged than other ships and can take more of a pounding. Industrial know-how and well crafted ships maybe.

So, numerically speaking, Hive would be superior, but would be cancelled out by superb Drone construction. Is that kinda close?

(I'm planning on having the Hive losing the battle. But either side will probably have a Pyrrhic victory)

	30-03-2004 21:56									#107
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Franky, sounds like a plan.

It's up to you whatever happens to the Gaians inside your territory on that special moon. Either wipe them out, or keep them as slaves, its up to ya.

I'll post about the UA invasion after I finish the Goa'uld conquest story arc.

I'll keep you guys updated.

	31-03-2004 04:54									#108
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Franky Originally, I was planning to have Franco lose outright. But perhaps if he limps back to the Drone Republic with only two or three of his forty ships, I could have it trigger public disillusionment with Adams. That in turn could set it up for her to lose the electoral cycle and have the Socialists come back in.

What would you like to have the altercation lead to - a full-scale war, or more of a low-intensity border skirmish thing?

From the Drone side, it would be easy for the Socialists to justify either. If we want to have a full-scale war, I'll make them say that Adams didn't use enough force against the Hive. If we don't, they can advocate a guerrilla campaign against the Hiverian Fringe under the idea of "making them fight on our terms".

	31-03-2004 06:09									#109
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Soveriegn, et al.

One thing I'm sure we've all agreed on is that Bad Things(tm) are going to happen in the Human Sector soon, whether it be a Proginator Invasion or the first of "real" wars between Human Nations.

Soveriegn, I would like to propose that Pym and Zakharov sign that treaty, in person, on Earth. It will have a lot of flowery language about peace for all mankind and will, at least for the immediate future, have tensions between the UA and the Protectorate eased dramatically (although I hope it's obviously heading in that direction anyway).

Citizens of the UA and Protectorate will cheer.

Other nations, like the Drones, Morgan Intersteller, etc. will be pleased that there is no general war between the two powers. Some, like the GHE, will instantly make the "Soviet-German Nonaggression" treaty connection, and be very, very upset. The GHE obviously was banking on the UA to help offset the Protectorate's clear technological superiority, and now that has been screwed up. And oh by the way, the Drones and Protectorate are on Friendly, if not buddy-buddy, terms.

Well?

	31-03-2004 17:14									#110
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Great Idea's guys.

Sovereign-Cool. You can wipe out the Gaians on your end, and I'll take care of them on my end. I think we just have to work together so our two stories about them match.

Crimson-Sorry if I turned your plotline around. I just read about how you wanted Adams to lose and thought that if Franco came back from the battle, it would make things a little easier for you to work with. As for your idea's, I think it would be better if we started out with border skirmishes and punitive expeditions between us. Seeing as how it looks like we BOTH have packed schedules and limited time, I think minor skirmishes would work better.

Later on, when we have more time, I think a full-scale war would be good. I like how you plan on having a "guerilla campaign" on our borders. I think we should work on this and expand it....sounds like it has potential.

Lonestar-How the heck do you know what I'm thinking? I did indeed plan on having the UA offset the Protectorates technological advantage. Fudge, well....things seem to be slowly working themselves up between our two factions again. But I think we should just keep things the way they are now while the UA and Protectorate clear things up.

	31-03-2004 21:45									#111
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Okay, here's several final thoughts before I start posting.

Lonestar

Sounds like a plan. Good WW2 analogy there. Just to let you know, the Academician already responded to the Protectorate's overtures, with the return of the wreckage of the Michael and the bodies inside, and the opening of an embassy on Earth for the Protectorate.

In your next post, you could have the Protectorate's reply. In it, you could make that offer about the signing of the treaty on Earth.



Franky

10-4, buddy.

When I post about the invasion of the Gaians, you could go over it, and let me know what things should be blended and matched, etc.

Then we could work from there. How does that sound?



I'll try and finish up the Goa'uld and Stargate story once and for all this week. Then hopefully I can start the conquest of the Gaians and Cyborgs next week.



By the way, Saturday's my Birthday. I'm starting to feel old already.

	01-04-2004 00:03									#112
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Posted.

In the next post, the Goa'uld are finished for good.

	01-04-2004 03:26									#113
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Right on.

Well, I don't think we should just wipe out the Gaians really quick, but have a few small battles. I'm figuring that they wouldn't have much of a military and would concentrate on environmental research....only have a token force.

This way, we don't get rid of them unrealistically fast, but fast enough where we can be done with them and move on to other plotlines.

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Thank for your advice, Franky.

I might go after the Gaians first, then next post, the Cyborgs, then the next post Gaians, in an alternating pattern.

That could give us a quick, yet realistic pace.

	01-04-2004 03:49									#115
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Hmmm, going over the story I think I'm going to have to make a repair job for the Hive attack on the Drone ships.

I'll make them as Hive corvettes that intercepted the message also and under orders to destroy any threat. That will explain the three ships already engaged with Hive forces. The 3 corvettes will still be inside of Hive space, but will engage once they see what's happening....but they'll send an emergency message to the fleet to tell them what's happening.

that will make it a total of 6 Hive ships engaging the Drone flotilla (I hope you'll make them have a lot of ships). These 6 ships will be destroyed by the Drones, then the two fleets will slug it out between us. Is this ok?

What I'll do is make the 3 Hive Corvettes jump in at the end of the post, while having the 3 other Hive ships resume the attack as well as send a communication to the Drones.

If you have any problems with my post, I'll change it accordingly. Dang, things are really heating up here.....

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Cool!

Franky - That all sounds good! My next post (you can go first if you like) will involve Franco entering Hive space proper and stumbling on the conquest of the pre-spaceflight planet.

For the guerrilla campaign, I was thinking the Drone forces would probably be based at the existing space stations in the regions, or possibly make a couple of smaller forward bases in isolated star systems outside the GHE. From there, they'll try to attack GHE shipping in the border regions, or possibly infiltrate nearby Hive systems.

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Cool.

If possible, can you make it so that Drone ships have to scan the planets before they can find the cities?

Hmmm, it looks like the Hive-Drone fleets will meet at the planet discussed in my previous posts. That will be pretty interesting. I'll make it so that the fleet will just have organized itself in defense when the two opposing forces meet.

As for shipping raids-That's fine with me. I just ask that you make it a little hard to find them (Hive secrecy) but they'll be easy to capture/destroy (secrecy over weaponry).

	01-04-2004 06:30									#118
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Posted.

Shows a somewhat different view of the Protectorate...the speech takes place at a photo-op.

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*grumbles*

I bet engineers don't feel underappreciated so much on Beta Hydri . . .



Franky - That sounds fine. I'll try and get the next post up ASAP.

	01-04-2004 10:08									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Crimson Sunrise *grumbles* I bet engineers don't feel underappreciated so much on Beta Hydri . . .

The Protectorate knows what it's strengths are.