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Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
They have bills above $20? Why haven't I ever seen them?!


Because you are poor.

[Nelson laugh] HA-HA [/Nelson laugh]

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Well you know what they say

"Money can't buy me love"

...I hate the Beatles

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Didnt some people want to get Reagen on the dime not that long ago?

Still, it'd be more appropriate to have him on a standard-issue IOU.

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I remember reading about Grant's Civil War accomplishments. It appears he was drunk at several key battles but never the less one them because he kept ordering his troops to attack when a sobber general would have retreated to regroup.


That's not true. If you want the truth I recommend reading:

Grant As Military Commander written by James Marshall Cornwall

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REAGAN!!!


The Reagan

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You resurrected this thread for that?

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I've been browsing the really old parts of the OTF

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Grant sucked. He waged an illegal war and slaughtered innocents. He had no moral character. He should have been shot.

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Talking about 'blast from the past'

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Originally posted by PLATO
He waged an illegal war




Anyone else up for one of those old Civil War retreads, or should we let sleeping dogs lie?

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Anyone else up for one of those old Civil War retreads, or should we let sleeping dogs lie?


Well, it was actually a troll to get the anti-Bushies out of bed and posting (Okay...I admit it...it was a troll), but...

If you want to discuss the war of northern Aggression then I guess I'm game!

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He was a terrible president right? Or is it because of his military accomplishments? But from what I've heard, he really wasn't that great of a general. And of course being a president is not required to be on money- as Franklin is on a bill.

I just hate seeing his face on the bill, that's all

Perhaps we should change it to something else.

recommendations?



grammar Nazi mode: "change it to somebody else -- not something else"



Also, IMO, Grant was one of the best generals during the Civil War.

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Also, ignorant people overplay Grant's alchoholism to the extent that one would think he was the first and only general to ever to have had a liking for alchohol while on the job.

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Grant was one of the greatest generals ever to exist. He did make a few tactical errors but it was cunning strategy that caused Lee's defeat. But never was he a great president.


You have made ignorant statements here. You should try a concept called research.

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Grant is a symbol of victory to Yankees. Given that the War of Northern Agression was the most traumatic event the country has ever been through it is only natural that he would be recognized, much in the same way that Martin Luther King is recongnized far beyond his personal worth as a symbol of the civil rights movement.

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It's not called the War of Northern Agression -- it's the War of Southern Stupidity.

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It's not called the War of Northern Agression -- it's the War of Southern Stupidity.


It's called the War of northern aggression down here...and that is what it was.

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nah -- it was the War of Southern Stupidity

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The US should change the guy on the bills every so often. Keeps things fresh.

Also, please, get some new colours and sizes. :beg:

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nah -- it was the War of Southern Stupidity


Only because we lost...only because we lost.

But, The South Shall Rise Again!

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What is The League of the South?
by Dr Michael Hill - LS President
The League of the South founded in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, in June 1994, seeks to advance the cultural, social, economic, and political well-being and independence of the Southern people by all honorable means.

Recognising that cultural regeneration must precede political regeneration, our initial goal is to give form and direction to "The Community of the Southern People." Only when we begin to rediscover who we are as a people can we save our civilization. The people of the South must come to understand that they indeed are a "nation" in the organic, historical sense of the word. As individuals and communities, we must secede culturally from a world that is waging cultural genocide against our traditions, our heritage and our values. If we do this, and in the process revitalize our culture, then perhaps we will be able to successfully pursue a political course toward independence and freedom. Once The League of the South has made "The Community of the Southern People" a reality, then we can pursue our political objectives: a return to constitutional republicanism and true federalism, or if that should prove unattainable, secession.

Secession, or self-determination, is the ultimate right of free men; and in the spirit of our Founding and Confederate forefathers, we shall, if necessary, invoke that principle once again. Should The South choose a course of political self-determination, it will not be alone. All around the world we see devolutionist political movements in places like the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Quebec and Scotland. The devolution of multi-national unions is a world-wide trend that emerged during the late-1980's and which continues to gather momentum in the 1990's. The League of the South is on the cutting edge of this exciting cultural and political phenomenon. As a response to the tyranny of the centralized state and its attendant enormities, it is, we believe, the most prudent of courses.

The League of the South extends an offer of cooperation to all peoples and groups in America and the world who share our general outlook, values, and principles and who wish to defend the remnant of Western civilization.

Dr. Michael Hill
President, The League of the South

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I guess if you want to label Cold Harbor as a tactical mistake you can call Grant a great general. The only competent thing Grant accomplished in that fight was finding enemy postions of sufficient strength to slaughter his own troops.

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Grant's virtues included an excellant grasp of the nature of contemporary warfare and the willingness to use the lives of others to achieve his goals. Grant (and Lincoln as well) was a numbers man. He recognized that the North had more men and armanents and therefore relentlessly pursued a very simple and utimately irresistable strategy. Force as many bloody exchanges as possible. You might label him as workmanlike, like a butcher who darn well produces meat on the table, but its a large leap of imagination to consider him more than a hack. Politics, which requires a more deft touch, was clearly beyond his abilities.

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I think they should put Apolytoners on US bills. Surely we're more deserving of recognition that any ol' dead politicians?

(BTW, the Gaygun has to die before he gets on any bills. I vote he gets on the phone bill.)

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As for Reagan being put on a bill or coin, I believe Nancy ixnayed that.

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Originally posted by PLATO
What is The League of the South?
by Dr Michael Hill - LS President

Recognising that cultural regeneration must precede political regeneration, our initial goal is to give form and direction to "The Community of the Southern People." Only when we begin to rediscover who we are as a people can we save our civilization. The people of the South must come to understand that they indeed are a "nation" in the organic, historical sense of the word. As individuals and communities, we must secede culturally from a world that is waging cultural genocide against our traditions, our heritage and our values. If we do this, and in the process revitalize our culture, then perhaps we will be able to successfully pursue a political course toward independence and freedom. Once The League of the South has made "The Community of the Southern People" a reality, then we can pursue our political objectives: a return to constitutional republicanism and true federalism, or if that should prove unattainable, preservation of slavery.

Preservation of slavery is the ultimate right of free men; and in the spirit of our Founding and Confederate forefathers, we shall, if necessary, invoke that principle once again. Should The South choose a course of political preservation of slavery, it will not be alone. All around the world we see devolutionist political movements in places like the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Quebec and Scotland. The devolution of multi-national unions is a world-wide trend that emerged during the late-1980's and which continues to gather momentum in the 1990's. The League of the South is on the cutting edge of this exciting cultural and political phenomenon. As a response to the tyranny of the centralized state and its attendant enormities, it is, we believe, the most prudent of courses.

The League of the South extends an offer of cooperation to all peoples and groups in America and the world who share our general outlook, values, and principles and who wish to defend the remnant of Western civilization.

Dr. Michael Hill
President, The League of the South



I corrected the typos that were in the original article you provided, Plato.

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Grant's virtues included an excellant grasp of the nature of contemporary warfare and the willingness to use the lives of others to achieve his goals. Grant (and Lincoln as well) was a numbers man. He recognized that the North had more men and armanents and therefore relentlessly pursued a very simple and utimately irresistable strategy. Force as many bloody exchanges as possible. You might label him as workmanlike, like a butcher who darn well produces meat on the table, but its a large leap of imagination to consider him more than a hack. Politics, which requires a more deft touch, was clearly beyond his abilities.



Like I'm going to take a neo-Confederate's opinion of a Union general seriously.

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Like I'm going to take a neo-Confederate's opinion of a Union general seriously.


Sorry to bore you but if I took the time to present a detailed report of his actions and battles it would support my conclusions. In my opinion. If I were MTG I could rattle all of that off by memory. Sorry for my mental limitations Fun guy.

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Also, IMO, Grant was one of the best generals during the Civil War.

Grant was pretty much the best the Union had, which makes him about 20th in the ranking of "Best Generals of the Civil War". Sure he won a lot, but the fool could not keep body count low.

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it reminds the south that, no matter how much money you make, you still got your asses handed to you by a drunkard northerner.

 
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