25-02-2004 03:39									#31
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Coal. Is it me, or is that more scarce than iron?

	25-02-2004 03:45									#32
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I just had to do withtout Horses for a very long time and that was no fun.

	25-02-2004 21:49									#33
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Rubber, hands down. Then iron.

	26-02-2004 01:10									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner Coal. Is it me, or is that more scarce than iron?

It's not just you. There is only 75% as much coal as there is iron.

	26-02-2004 12:39									#35
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quote: Railroads and Factories require Iron...

Damn! I guess its iron then...

	26-02-2004 18:16									#36
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It's iron. Late game if you don't have anything you can trade or conquer. Losing the iron lottery can be a pain in the ass, especially if there is none nearby to take.

	26-02-2004 19:12									#37
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Iron. It is important in the early game, it is important in the late game. It is a resource that just keeps on giving.

	26-02-2004 19:28									#38
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I vote for iron.

Next turn after I built a railroad on my coal resource it disappeared. Coincidence?

	26-02-2004 23:46									#39
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You can have tons and tons and tons of coal, but if you don't have IRON, you can't build any railroads. Without IRON, you'll probably be without much effective offensive force (Longbowmen vs. Infantry, heheh) with which to acquire OIL, RUBBER, ALUMINUM, etc.

Iron got my vote.

	26-02-2004 23:48									#40
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 I vote for iron. Next turn after I built a railroad on my coal resource it disappeared. Coincidence?

Conspiracy! hhehe.

I am paranoid about that, sometimes I only road it. Do these resources get exhausted faster with mines/rr's on them? Or is it just my paranoia?

	27-02-2004 00:10									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Mace Conspiracy! hhehe. ....... Or is it just my paranoia?

We have a winner!!!






On a serious note, resource depletion is random, it really is, and can disappear as soon as it is connected via road or railroad.

	03-03-2004 10:13									#42
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Having squandered huge amounts of it, I've come to the realization that the most important strategic resource is... time.

	03-03-2004 12:12									#43
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Right now coal only one on the contient with 5 civs on it. I am trying to take it now.

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Depends on scarcity really - most valuable resources to me are the ones that can be traded for tech, cash etc...

So it depends on era and scacity of the resouce...

It's a drag to play without iron in the ancient era - but it's not impossible (and might just improve your diplomacy skills).

So for me - scarcity of resource = more valuable resource.

It's kind of fun getting all the Uranium at the end and auctioning it off...

It's less fun when the nukes start raining down, but hey! It's only a game.

	03-03-2004 21:18									#45
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Most of my games end before uranium is of any use. Oil is essential late in the game, as is coal. But Iron stands out as the most important, IMHO.
Nonetheless, I voted banana.

	04-03-2004 16:40									#46
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quote: Having squandered huge amounts of it, I've come to the realization that the most important strategic resource is... time.

Why? Youre living in a turn-based civ3 world. You have all the time in the world...

	04-03-2004 17:14									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber What is the most valuable resource in CIV 3?

Iron.
Because, as it has been said, it is needed for most units/improvements.
But, I don't have so much problems in geting it (C3C, huge pangea maps).
Without Iron, there is still hope to find your way through peace and ... saltpeter and musketmen.

quote: The one you need the most?

horses.
No horse, no war.

quote: And the one that you pray to Sid to appear when pressing the enter key hoping beyond hope that your new tech gives you control of at least one of the resource that you desperately crave?

Saltpeter.
Cavalry is the explaination. With cavalry I'll get the iron/coal/rubber that will be needed for industrial age.

	07-03-2004 15:43									#48
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Who needs Iron or Coal when you have Tropical Fruits?

Anyways, I think aluminum is one of the most important along with Uranium. Without Aluminum you get no Stealth Bombers or Jet FIghters, which are crucial. Also no SAM batteries

I can usaully get quite a few strategic resources with a great early air force and an okay ground force.

	07-03-2004 23:47									#49
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Crucial huh?

	11-03-2004 11:20									#50
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My Legions needs Iron,
My railroads needs Iron,
My computers needs Iron,
So, I needs Iron

	11-03-2004 11:21									#51
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My Legions needs Iron,
My railroads needs Iron,
My computers needs Iron,
So, I needs Iron
Note: I dont think your computer made of coal
No computer, No Civ, and Game Over

Edit : sorry for repost.

	11-03-2004 13:38									#52
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I voted coal

Although rubber is a very close second. I have only played on in 1 game without coal and although I did win by culture, there was no way I'd achieve any other kind of victory.

As it was, I got involved in a protracted war with Ghandi over a coal resource that disappeared 15 turns after I captured it.

	13-03-2004 19:10									#53
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quote: BamSpeedy's strategy.

whats this?

	13-03-2004 22:55									#54
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It is a game he played using PTW. It was set up to simulate a Sid game. The thread is called something like "Beyond Sid". It is posted at CFC.

	18-03-2004 20:19									#55
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Sugar! Who can win without a Candy Factory!

	18-03-2004 22:27									#56
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Um, yeah, good point. Can't think why it wasn't made earlier.

	19-03-2004 05:39									#57
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Jack Daniels is the most valuable resource in this gaming household!

But seriously, Iron then, Oil for me.

	20-03-2004 01:54									#58
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Most valuable is oil. Without oil you will not play in the modern era.

If you want to test value of oil vs XYZ, create a scenario with '0' occurance of oil && XYZ and see which hurts your gameplay more.

You can work around and play a decent game with about any other resource, but not without oil.

Guess Fireaxis didn't know Germans could make synthetic oil and keep going when allies cut their oil.

Now that would be in interesting small wonder: synthetic oil factory.

PF

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quote: Originally posted by planetfall .....Guess Fireaxis didn't know Germans could make synthetic oil and keep going when allies cut their oil. Now that would be in interesting small wonder: synthetic oil factory. PF

Yes, but the synthetic was horrendously expensive to produce and was a petroleum derrivitave not a complete synthetic. As such it allowed them to stretch their limited quanities of Oil, not replace them. It was only when the Poletski Oil fields fell to the Russians in early 1945 that the fate of the Third Reich was sealed.

Still the Synthetic Oilo factory would be an interesting SW for CIV 4.

We know that Oil is the most valuable IRL but in the game you should be able to capture enough land to make sure at least a limited supply falls under your sphere of influence (as most games do not have an occurance of 0 for oil) .

	22-03-2004 20:41									#60
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Iron.

Getting it early means victory, those later resources become less important as I can take them when I want to.

I play my few games at monarch btw.