18-04-2001 06:54									#1
	Domination Dip(46) Spring 1938 Moves Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Hello Everybody,
Sorry so late, had to wait for Lordstone to come back from wherever. But we are set to go with only one NMR.

France (Napoleon)
F-N.ATL > EDI -BOUNCE
F-LON S F-N.ATL > EDI -SUPPORT BROKEN
F-M.ATL > N.ATL -BOUNCE
F-LYON > BISCAY -OK
F-ALG > HOLD -OK
F-NAN > ROU -OK
F-CAP > OFS -OK
F-MAD > M.CHANNEL -OK
F-SEY > H.AFRICA -BOUNCE
F-SUNDRA > JAVA -BOUNCE
F-BOR S F-SUNDRA > JAVA -OK
F-HAN > NGH -OK
A-BRE > DRE -BOUNCE
A-RUH S A-BEL -OK
A-BEL S A-RUH -OK
A-MAR > HOLD -OK
A-CON > NIG -OK
A-CON > ANG -OK
A-SAI > THA -OK
A-BAN > ORI -OK
A-ASM > BIH -OK
A-SIC S A-YUN -OK
A-YUN S A-SIC -OK
**A-CAM** -UNORDERED -HOLD

Russia (Gerwald)
F-CAU S A-SEV -SUPPORT BROKEN **DESTROYED**
A-QIN S A-TIB -OK
A-TIB S A-QIN -OK
A-TUR S A-TEH -OK
A-KHO S A-PAK > KER -OK
A-TEH S A-KHO -SUPPORT BROKEN
A-PAK > KER -OK
A-RAJ > KAS -OK
A-DEL S FRENCH A-ASM > BIH -OK
A-NOR > POL -BOUNCE
F-BAL C A-NOR > POL -OK
A-BLR S A-NOR > POL -OK
A-SEV S A-NOR > POL -OK
A-LIT S A-NOR > POL -OK
F-SWE S F-DEN -OK
F-DEN S F-BAL -OK
F-LEN(nc) > NOR -BOUNCE
F-BARRENTS S F-LEN(nc) > NOR -OK
A-GRN LONGS FOR BIKINIS AND TEQUILA

JAPAN (Ruffhaus8)
A-SHX S RUSSIAN A-QUI > HOLD -OK
A-WUH > BEI -OK
A-HEF > WUH -OK
A-SHA S A-HEF -OK
A-NNJ > HEF -OK
A-KAG > HOLD -OK
F-TOK > KURIL -OK
F-YELLOW S F-TW > S.CHINA -OK
F-TW > S.CHINA -OK
F-OKI > PHILIPPINE -OK
F-LUZ > MIN -OK
F-SULU S F-MIN -SUPPORT BROKEN DISLODGED RETREAT TO CEL
F-MIN > BISMARK -OK
F-IZU S F-MIN > BISMARK -OK
F-BISMARK > EQ COUNTERCURRENT -OK
F-MAR S F-BISMARK > EQ COUNTERCURRENT -OK
F-W.PAC S F-BISMARK > EQ COUNTERCURRENT -OK
F-HAW S F-BISMARK > EQ COUNTERCURRENT -OK
F-C.CURRENT > SAN FRAN -BOUNCE
F-N.PAC S A-ANC -OK
A-ANC > HOLD -OK

Italy (Orange1)
A-ETH > MOG -OK
A-STU > BAY -OK
A-HUN S GERMAN A-POL -OK
F-YUG > LOM(ec)
F-LOM(wc) > ROME -OK
A-TIR > YUG -OK
F-IONIAN > TUN -OK
F-MOR > HOLD -OK
A-TUN > TRI -OK
A-TRI > CHA -OK
F-RED > YEMEN -BOUNCE

Columbia (Iain)
F-G.CAL > E.PAC -OK
A-MER S A-MEX -OK
F-HON(nc) S A-MER -OK
F-CARR > NE TRADES -OK
F-HAI S F-CARR > NE TRADES -OK
F-CRT > CARR -OK
F-CUB > HOLD -OK
A-VEN > HOLD -OK
A-CH S A-VEN -OK
A-MIT S A-VEN -OK
A-PRU > HOLD -OK
A-BUV S A-PRU -OK

Turkey (Lordstone)
A-ROM S A-POL -OK
A-ANK S F-AEG > BS -OK **WORKING THE GATES**
F-AEGEAN > BLACK SEA -OK
A-ERZ S A-VAN > CAU -OK
A-VAN > CAU -OK
A-AZE > TEH -BOUNCE
A-ESF S A-AZE > TEH -OK
A-IRA S A-ESF -OK
A-TUB S A-TRI > CHA -OK
A-CAI > HOLD -OK
A-ARA > YEM -BOUNCE

Australia (Snowfire)
F-JAVA S F-TIMOR > SULU -SUPPORT BROKEN
F-TIMOR > SULU -OK
F-IND S F-JAVA -OK
F-NGU S F-TIMOR > SULU -OK
F-S.PAC > EQ COUNTERCURRENT -BOUNCE
F-FIJI S F-S.PAC > EQ COUNTERCURRENT -OK
F-QUE > CORAL -OK

England (Midshipman)
F-N.PASSAGE > N.ATL -BOUNCE
F-NORTH > LON -BOUNCE
A-GLA > EDI -BOUNCE
F-H.AFRICA S ITALIAN F-RED > YEMEN -SUPPORT BROKEN
F-M.CHANNEL > W.INDIAN -OK

Brazil (Hogfather)
F-D.PASSAGE > C.BASIN -OK
F-NE TRADES > CARR -BOUNCE DISLODGED RETREAT TO EQ ATL
A-PRA S A-AMA -OK
A-BOL S A-AMA -OK
A-SUR S A-AMA -OK

Germany (Du Chateau)
F-BER S A-POL -OK
A-DRE S A-POL -SUPPORT BROKEN
A-CZE S A-POL -OK
A-POL S A-CZE -SUPPORT BROKEN

Persia (Chazzy)
A-BAN S A-KER > ESF -OK
A-KER > ESF -BOUNCE DISLODGED RETREAT TO AFGHAN
A-OMA > ARA -BOUNCE
F-CEY > KAR -OK

USA (ScottF) NMR Ruff record this NMR Moves done by GM
A-OAX > MER -BOUNCE
A-MAZ > OK
F-G.MEX S A-OAX > MER -OK
F-C.CHANNEL S F-G.MEX -OK
A-SFR > HOLD -OK
A-YUK > ANC -BOUNCE
A-BCO S A-YUK > ANC -BOUNCE
F-NOL S F-G.MEX -OK

Mexico (Talon)
A-MEX > HOLD OK

China (Shadowstrike)
End of Game Fall 1937

Map:
http://www.geocities.com/defiant003/Dominations38.gif

Retreats are due within 24hrs and I did them for you on the map if you want them changed please advise me or they will stay as is.
Fall 1938 Moves are due Friday April 20th at 11:59PM CST. Please check for errors, thank you.



[This message has been edited by Defiant (edited April 18, 2001).]

	18-04-2001 08:54									#2
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Defiant. I will keep this short and sweet. One, I am going to be critical of the overly leniant NMR grace period. Lordstone should have to submit orders when everyone else does. Plus, he has become increasingly delinquent. I am not going to continue to play within deadlines if 1 player is allowed to consistantly exploit the rules. Enough said.

	18-04-2001 09:43									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I seem to recall sending a PM with the spring moves sometime last week...

	18-04-2001 10:14									#4
	Tired of ads?

First of all, I would like to thank Defiant for being very lenient. If he had chosen to move on and make up moves, then I would have upheld his decision, too. Second, I do not see how I have become "increasingly delinquent." Granted, I have had disastrous computer and family-related problems in the last month from the period of Feb 15-March 15. However, I have tried very hard to keep on top of moves, trying my damnest to continue San Andreas and ADCT and continue my involvement in Domination and Civilization.

I'm continuing this even as I finish up my campaign for vice-president of the student government, deal with the family aftereffects of my grandfather's funeral, a sucky Dell laptop that crashes every 15 minutes, planning a hospitality room for 150 people for a biannual party that serves over 2000 partrons from three colleges located in Los Angeles, Washington DC, and Rochester, NY. I have been a member of this diplomacy community ever since its inception nearly two years ago, and been very involved in its growth as well as games. And I have never taken a break from the diplomacy community in that time. When I was faced with my computer woes, I immediately notified Apolyton so that they wouldn't be left in the lurch as I have been many, many times.

While I expect no special treatment for my long presence on Apolyton, I do expect GMs to understand and give me some leeway in light of my technical problems, and also for them to have the wisdom to just decide and leave me behind and move on. Again, I thank Defiant, and I sincerely hope that no further catastrophes will strike me in the future that will take me away from this community for an extended length of time.

	18-04-2001 17:47									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Gerwald,
You are absolutely correct. The reason I was giving Lordstone a break is cause of his problems with his computer and roaming the countryside for work or whatever, he did tell us that upfront. BUT........Lordstone, you know this game as well as anybody and you have enough time to respond to Gerwald here, take that same time a turn in a set of preliminary orders, that is part of the game. Right now there are no retreats that affect you, you could send in your prelims for fall now and change them if you need to.

Since I have a legitimate concern by a player and my rules at the beginning state only a 24hr grace period after the due date, I am going to keep to the rules strickly for the rest of the game. If your moves are not turned in by the end of the 24hr grace period, given you haven't asked for an extension you are NMR'd and the game is getting to the point where I can no longer make adequate moves for the countries in "HOT" positions like you are in. My rule will be all units support each other if you NMR.

ScottF, I am sorry, I didn't receive any such orders over the PM, the ones I have are from March 28 from Midshipman. If you send them again with the date I will obviously take back the NMR and implement your orders, I can't believe they are too much different than the ones I did, AND I did the moves before adjudicating everybody's, you have to take my word for it, I have nothing to gain here, just trying to keep the game going without handicaps.

	18-04-2001 18:33									#6
	Increase Your PM Length

The outbox for my private messages says I sent one on April 12th...

quote: Recipient Topic: Re: RE omination(46) Winter 1937 Adjustments Defiant Civer posted April 12, 2001 14:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USA (8 units) 1. A San Francisco holds 2. A Yukon -> Anchorage 3. A British Columbia supports A Yukon -> Anchorage 4. A Oax -> Mer 5. F Gulf of Mexico supports A Oax -> Mer 6. A Maz holds 7. F New Orleans supports F Gulf of Mexico 8. F Florida Channel supports F Gulf of Mexico

quote: Private Messages Outbox Subject Sent To Date Sent Delete? Re: RE omination(46) Winter 1937 Adjustments Defiant April 12, 2001 14:50 Re: Dip 1600 Builds/Disbands Du_Chateau March 30, 2001 03:20 Re: Dip 23 Colonial 1902 (Spring) RUFFHAUS8 March 30, 2001 03:16

[This message has been edited by Scott F (edited April 18, 2001).]

	18-04-2001 18:43									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

ScottF,
That is good enough for me, I will make the changes when I find out the final retreats. I apologize for the NMR and will retract it and implement your orders instead, thank you.

Remember everybody, if you don't make changes to the retreats I designated for you, they will stand as is.