27-02-2004 01:08									#1
	Planetary Council Motion Support Apolyton

To the Planetary Council
Motion of Ceasefire and Returning of the PEACE Bases
By the Human Hives

Dear Governor, dear Planetary Council Members,

The Human Hives would like to express its great concerns about the recent intense conflict between the CPU and PEACE. The CPU-PEACE war has so far lasted seven (?) years and has had a devastating impact on the peaceful development of the planet. The Hive is concerned over reports of increasing violations of international humanitarian law. We are gravely concerned that given the increasing likelihood of an thorough occupation of the PEACE territory by the CPU forces, coupled with the approaching winter, the situation in PEACE has the potential to become an even greater humanitarian disaster. It has become more and more apparent that the continuation or further escalation of the conflict between CPU and PEACE has dangerous implications for the stability of the region.

The Hive believes that the Planetary Council has overriding obligation to stop the suffering of innocent civilians and prevent a de-stabilising conflict spreading to other countries in the planet. The Hive motions the Council to take immediate action to consider this matter in order to prevent a humanitarian disaster and a threat to stability throughout the Planet. The Hive affirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the PEACE and the right of all refugees and displaced persons to return to their homes. The Hive calls for an immediate ceasefire from the CPU and the return of at least half of the PEACE bases. We emphasizes that the authorities of the Planet Council must achieve a political solution to condemn the CPU invasion of the PEACE territory and to establish that all violence and acts of terrorism from the CPU are unacceptable.

Chairman Voltaire

	27-02-2004 01:11									#2
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Please give revisions and feedbacks. My intention is to present it before buster finishes his turn. Don't want to wait for too long because the Drones do not notice it until too late.

	27-02-2004 04:49									#3
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And we are absolutly sure that CPU will not accept this? They won't say, "Gee, the Hive and the Drones against us? That's too much!", right?

	27-02-2004 09:11									#4
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i think it is very good!
though vender has a point: i think we might have a litle problem if they accept the ceasefire. they might use any time given after thet to prepare them self to war with us.
i would say that we might need to ask them to return some citys or pay PEACE some techs for what they've done, but i dont think it sound so good....just an idea.

	27-02-2004 20:07									#5
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I did ask them to return half of the PEACE bases.

quote: The Hive calls for an immediate ceasefire from the CPU and the return of at least half of the PEACE bases.

Now if they agree to it, hmmm... I believe it is unlikely. I mean they are feeling super good at this moment. Doesn't seem to me that they would want to appear this wimpy. What do others think? Should we demand them to return ALL of the peace bases?

	27-02-2004 20:09									#6
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We also need Voltaire to post it when it is finalized. If Voltaire are busy maybe Comrade Oct can do it and add a sig line "Chief Ambassador Octavian X"?

	28-02-2004 08:01									#7
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu I did ask them to return half of the PEACE bases. Now if they agree to it, hmmm... I believe it is unlikely. I mean they are feeling super good at this moment. Doesn't seem to me that they would want to appear this wimpy. What do others think? Should we demand them to return ALL of the peace bases?

We're going to war, right?

I am afraid that they will agree to it and they we will have to declare war afterwards anyway.


Come to think of it. How are they going to transfer back half the bases to Peace? Which bases? When?

I thought that was impermissible to gift bases in this game.


I think CyCon should not be able to keep any of their ill gotten gains.

They should return all the Peace bases. Plus pay reparations.


Mead

	28-02-2004 09:10									#8
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I could do so if necessary.

It really depends on how we want CyUni to react to this request. Half of PEACE bases may be acceptable, if they're looking to avoid conflict.

If we REALLY wanna make them angry (something I love doing... ), we propose the return of ALL PEACE bases, plus appropriate reparations in the form of energy credits and techs, as well as peace between PEACE and CyUni.

Of course, I'm assuming this message is only intended to give us an excuse to attack...

	28-02-2004 09:27									#9
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Exactly Comrade Mead and Oct. I agree to change it to return all bases, and "plus appropriate reparations in the form of energy credits and techs". Very good wordings. Comrade Oct, could you post it out tonight? I want to give buster a chance to open the council meeting right around he post his turn.

Remember to get rid of the question mark after 7 and also perhaps change the word "countries" to "factions".

	28-02-2004 09:49									#10
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Here's what I came up with. Modified the demands, as well as a few grammatical errors.

quote: To the Planetary Council Motion of Cease Fire and the Return of the PEACE Bases As presented by the Human Hive Dear Governor, dear Planetary Council Members: The Human Hive would like to express it’s great concerns about the recent intense conflict between the CPU and PEACE. The CPU-PEACE war has so far lasted seven years and has had a devastating impact on the peaceful development of Planet. The Hive is concerned about reports of increasing violations of international humanitarian law. We are gravely concerned that given the increasing likelihood of a thorough occupation of the PEACE territory by the CPU forces, coupled with the approaching winter, that the situation in PEACE has the potential to become an even greater humanitarian disaster. It has become more and more apparent that the continuation of, or further escalation of the conflict between CPU and PEACE has dangerous implications for the stability of the region. The Hive believes that the Planetary Council has the overriding obligation to stop the suffering of innocent civilians and prevent a de-stabilizing conflict spreading to other factions on the planet. The Hive motions the Council to take immediate action on this matter in order to prevent a humanitarian disaster and to prevent a threat to stability throughout Planet. The Hive affirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the PEACE and the right of all refugees and displaced persons to return to their homes. The Hive calls for an immediate cease fire between PEACE and the CPU. The Hive also demands the immediate return of all PEACE bases to the control of the sovereign PEACE government. In addition, we demand appropriate reparations to PEACE from the CPU in the form of energy credits and technology. We emphasize that the authority of the Planetary Council must achieve a political solution to condemn the CPU invasion of the PEACE territory and to establish that all violence and acts of terrorism from the CPU are unacceptable. Chairman Voltaire Special Representative Octavian X

	28-02-2004 10:14									#11
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Looks great! Could you post it? Buster's already done the turn.

	29-02-2004 06:42									#12
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Comrade Oct, would you be able to post it out on the public forum? If you can't tonight, I'll do it later when I start to work on the turn.

	29-02-2004 10:27									#13
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I'll do so right now.

	29-02-2004 10:43									#14
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Just saw it. Great job!

	29-02-2004 11:23									#15
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Hey, I have to do something around here to earn my weekly xenodoughnut pension.

	29-02-2004 19:26									#16
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I love you guys

This is great !!!

-Jam

	01-03-2004 07:48									#17
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Well, the motion has ruffled some feathers in the public forum. It's sounding like we are going to have our war....

	01-03-2004 09:07									#18
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I took the liberty of responding to the CyCon reply to our proposal, hopefully I did not come off too strong.

	01-03-2004 09:16									#19
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I'm so happy we have you back dear Chairman. Nobody would have replied to their lies any better.

	01-03-2004 09:57									#20
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What, precisely, is the point of this protest? Does the U.N. Council have any additional powers of which I am not aware in this particular team game or is this just us and some other factions bickering about CyCon winning a war? Is there anything we can reasonably do ABOUT the war other than complain about it in the Planetary Council, essentially for fun, or actually ATTACKING the aggressors ourselves?

	01-03-2004 10:06									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos What, precisely, is the point of this protest? Does the U.N. Council have any additional powers of which I am not aware in this particular team game or is this just us and some other factions bickering about CyCon winning a war? Is there anything we can reasonably do ABOUT the war other than complain about it in the Planetary Council, essentially for fun, or actually ATTACKING the aggressors ourselves?

Strictly speaking the Planetary Council has about as much power as the real UN, so not much. This is all just rhetoric for now, but it can be used as an excuse for war later. Hopefully the CyCon comply with our demands, but if not then like the UN we can pass a resolution authorizing the use of force to make them comply. This is just the prelude to the upcoming war with the CyCon.

	01-03-2004 10:17									#22
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To use an analogy, think United States and UN Resolution 1441. Mere rhetoric to justify a war that's gonna happen anyway.

	01-03-2004 19:53									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Voltaire Hopefully the CyCon comply with our demands,

I sure don't hope that they will comply with our demand. We have tried to make our demand as outrageous as possible. If they comply, we are in trouble. For we won't have an excuse for our soon to break out war.

quote: but if not then like the UN we can pass a resolution authorizing the use of force to make them comply. This is just the prelude to the upcoming war with the CyCon.

Exactly.

	02-03-2004 01:22									#24
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Ok, got it. That's what I thought... the demands are so outrageous that we have to know they'll never agree to them.

	02-03-2004 09:09									#25
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I'll be motioning that the Council put this to a vote right before ourselves and the Drones invade the University. That way it looks legitimate.

Also I would like our forces ready to defend the homeland from possible infiltration from CyCon spies, in case their probe foil moves toward our territory I move that it be destroyed immediately. Of course we will justify this by saying that we told them any hostile actions against us would be met with harsh force.

	02-03-2004 09:32									#26
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Yes I agree. Also I would make sure each southeastern base has at least one defense probe and the coastle bases perhaps two?

	02-03-2004 14:32									#27
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Bwahahaha!!! The sleeper shall awaken!

	03-03-2004 07:20									#28
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Why don't we let up a little of the intensity of the diplomatic moves until after Peace gets the turn.

I think based upon the way it is going right now CyCon will probably surprise attack us this turn.

Mead

	03-03-2004 09:11									#29
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There is no problem that they would want to do this. Now do they have the ability to surprise attack us? If they do attack us then we have every reason to start war against them.

ps. Mead, I have not got your turn yet. Would you please post the upload link in the forum?

	03-03-2004 11:37									#30
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When will the Drones troops be in position to attack? I think it will work best if we call this to a vote in the Council right before the attack, that way we look good.