28-02-2004 02:40									#151
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bring on the draft.

think of it this way: it's another lottery.

i've never won a lottery, i might get a shot at winning this one.

	28-02-2004 02:45									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia it'll never happen. its political sucide. the only way it could is if al qaeda manaages another succesful strike against america, similar to world trade center.

Again, suicide for whom?

Bush is eligible for only one more term and Cheney won't run. Congressmen and Senators are elected locally, so in some sense it also matters if they can do enough for their constituents to offset the draft.

Then again, given how easy it was to drum out dissent against the Iraq war, how hard will it be to really push a draft as patriotic and drown out dissent again. (But hopefully the Repukes shot their "patriotism" wad on Iraq )

	28-02-2004 02:47									#153
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quote: Again, suicide for whom?

Congress. Bye-bye incumbency advantage .

	28-02-2004 03:27									#154
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yea, but theyve reloaded and now their ready to go again. and remeber how much of a pushover the demonrats are.

	28-02-2004 04:16									#155
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Funny, it's the "demonrats" who were the only ones talking about any 'draft' (ie, Rangel) .

	28-02-2004 04:28									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia it'll never happen. its political sucide. the only way it could is if al qaeda manaages another succesful strike against america, similar to world trade center.

What would a conscript army be able to do against that? Or a professional army, for that matter? Terrorism is a police matter. Draft people to the FBI then...

	28-02-2004 05:56									#157
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Exactly,the military doesn't WANT them.

Precisely because they would be useless for at least a year.

	28-02-2004 07:50									#158
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Siddiqui, i was talking about the repukes using patriotism. once the fusion between the two parties are complete

enter stage left, LP.

	28-02-2004 08:31									#159
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quote: That goes to "impeachable offences." Simply calling for a draft isn't an impeachable offence

If the president enforces a draft in violation of the 13th amendment, that could in some readings be impeachable.

	28-02-2004 08:43									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Um, do a quick search on the Senate and House web sites for the resolutions. They are 1) being offered by Democrats (Hollings in the Senate, Rangel in the House), and 2) referring to a national service program of the like advocated by Kerry, one that does not require military service.

They want to make sure rich kid or political correct kid has than equall change of haveing his ass shot at. FDR lost 2 grandchildern who serive in the milital durning WWII to combat plus some other familty member unlike our last president and current president.

	28-02-2004 12:30									#161
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oh yes back on topic.

I did my time. I'm not eligible

I seriously doubt it will happen. A war with China is the only thing that would cause a draft.

I think they are beefing up the selective service "just in case"

	28-02-2004 12:38									#162
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Diss, isn't there some obscure law that says anyone who served can be called back to serve in time of crises? It was mentioned in a novel, so that's a strike against, but the author served.

	28-02-2004 13:00									#163
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I have an idea...I'll go to the drafting office and say "Can my boyfriend join the same unit too?"

	28-02-2004 13:52									#164
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No, the criticism is that they chickened out of a war they publically supported and that today they want to tell others to go fight. Honest draft dodging doesn't hurt you, unless you're a Repug (then you have to have dishonestly dodged). It didn't hurt Clinton. It didn't hurt Quayle. Didn't even hurt Dubya. So many Americans disagreed with the war that avoid the war isn't a problem. It's being a liar or an hypocrite that hurts you.

In short, they avoided service, but now they are of the generation that makes policy decisions. However, the label of chicken-hawk is applied to them as if they should have no voice at all.

Like I said, serve or have no voice. That is the reasoning.