29-02-2004 08:06									#1
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I just downlaoded 2158 and I am starting to look around.

Please everyone else do so as well.

I took a break from my review to post here that the Hive is being invaded by the Data Angeles.

They have landed a Battle Ogre near Rokossovkygrad and have a unity rover on a transport off the coast.

I am now going back to look over the turn some more.

Mead

	29-02-2004 08:54									#2
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Looks like we'll have to worry about her earlier than I thought. Transport should be easy to take care. What about the Battle Ogre?

	29-02-2004 09:21									#3
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu Looks like we'll have to worry about her earlier than I thought. Transport should be easy to take care. What about the Battle Ogre?

As you know, I am trying to do a parallel turn on this one so I am checking out how I would handle things.

Suggestion:

Do not use the F-15 needlejet to attack. Save it for Recon down south.

Use one of the nearby Choppers (I think Dacopolis just built one).

Hit the transport first.

You are almost certain to win. Probably without damage. After that battle your chopper will probably get a morale upgrade to disciplined.

Then use it to hit the disciplined Ogre. The Ogre is in rolling terrain and you should have 2:1 odds in favor of winning. Once you win your chopper will likely get an upgrade to hardened.

Then land your chopper in one of the nearby cities.


Mead

PS
There is a lot more I am thinking about this turn, such as moving up the Data Angle invasion, and perhaps killing that CyCon probeship. I'll talk about them in the next few posts.

	29-02-2004 09:23									#4
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as i posted - we can build at least 6-7 infantery units of any type in 1-2 turns. this is the time!!
done make robbers, they're costy and we need (and can make) units for both fronts!

	29-02-2004 09:30									#5
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I'm going to my reserv duty right now so i won't be able to help much in the comeing 10 days. ill probably enter forum once every 2-3 days, but I'm not sure.

good luck

and again - WE HAVE @ FRONTS NAW - BUILD SIMPLE INFANTERY SO YOU CAN HAVE MANY UNITS!!!!!

(misle-drop for attack and centinels or misile infantery for defence)

	29-02-2004 10:36									#6
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Ok I'm now hesitating about killing the CC probe. It will break our treaty. If we could wait one more turn I think that would be better.

	29-02-2004 10:48									#7
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However if we don't kill it they will discover the peace transport and colony pod. Does this matter at all?

	29-02-2004 10:48									#8
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Yeah - I'm thinking we shoud hold off on hurting that probe until we're actually at war. We'll have to see how they react to our council motion.

Really, we've no reason not the trust them. We're being the untrusty ones.

	29-02-2004 10:54									#9
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So we let them be aware of the new peace base? Then they will be awared that we are going to protect the peace. But I guess this is ok. Any more opinions?

	29-02-2004 13:24									#10
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Ok I've almost finished the turn. There are still a couple units need to be moved, and I'm pretty sure the base production may need adjustment. Please take a look and let me know what your opinion is especially about base productions.

Turn 2158 unfinished

	29-02-2004 13:25									#11
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Base productin needs to be changed:

	29-02-2004 13:26									#12
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Base productin needs to be changed:

	29-02-2004 13:28									#13
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Basically, we are building another two penetrators, two drop probes and two drop garrisons. Then I'm building a transport, and a couple garrisons and probes for the peace new base. The other bases I didn't know what to build, so just put in some tree farms, rec tanks and nodes. I need suggestions for those. Thanks!

	29-02-2004 19:30									#14
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More units. Less Facs.

And kill that probe.

-Jam

	01-03-2004 04:04									#15
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MOVE THAT F-15

Hong Hu

I looked at the unfinished turn you posted.

Very fortunately for us, you have not yet moved that F-15 yet.

Let's move it to keep our cruiser from being bought and to start the war yet.

Move the Needlejet and have it end its turn on top of the Cruiser (it is 12 spaces from Rokossvygrad, it can make it).

Next turn have the needlejet land in the new Peace base, if made there, or return to New Moscow.

Change the Tree farm in Rokossvygrad to a Skyhawk and rush it so it is available for use next turn. With two needlejets we can keep up on constant presence.


Mead

	01-03-2004 04:09									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski More units. Less Facs. *** -Jam

I have to agree with Jamski.

Right now we need addtional military units more than we need additional facilties right now.

I too, would like to have more facilites (in particular Tree Farms, Net Nodes, and Recycling Tanks), but the need for military units now and for the next two turns is greater than the benefit of addtional facilties right now.

I'll try to upload my turn so you can see where I would like to go.

Mead


PS

I did like the transport you are now making in New Moscow. It will come in handy for the invasion of th Data Angeles.

	01-03-2004 04:23									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Mead Next turn have the needlejet land in the new Peace base, if made there, or return to New Moscow.

It looks like Peace should move the CP inland one space to make invulnerable from prob foils. I hope Crossbone Way can hold out for two turns.

quote: Change the Tree farm in Rokossvygrad to a Skyhawk and rush it so it is available for use next turn. With two needlejets we can keep up on constant presence.

We really need more than one needlejet to keep up the constant recon.


Mead

	01-03-2004 09:04									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Mead MOVE THAT F-15 Hong Hu I looked at the unfinished turn you posted. Very fortunately for us, you have not yet moved that F-15 yet. Let's move it to keep our cruiser from being bought and to start the war yet. Move the Needlejet and have it end its turn on top of the Cruiser (it is 12 spaces from Rokossvygrad, it can make it). Next turn have the needlejet land in the new Peace base, if made there, or return to New Moscow. Change the Tree farm in Rokossvygrad to a Skyhawk and rush it so it is available for use next turn. With two needlejets we can keep up on constant presence. Mead

Thanks Mead. Yes that's exactly why I didn't move that F15. I knew it has a purpose.

I'll change the tree farm to skyhawk too. Now we do have more than two F15 though. I guess I could also change the other facilities to military units, what I'm not sure though, is that if we want to keep a large military force. Even if we have pretty good support, if we don't need it then it will be resources wasted.

	01-03-2004 09:05									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Mead It looks like Peace should move the CP inland one space to make invulnerable from prob foils. I hope Crossbone Way can hold out for two turns. Mead

I think it is their plan.

	01-03-2004 09:33									#20
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