23-06-2004 01:53									#241
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* Snowflake oders her foils bombard away! Yeay!

	23-06-2004 03:02									#242
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One reason the more I like seafactions. Mineral costs are plenty, but the flexibility is potentially way bigger!!

	23-06-2004 03:04									#243
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Would you be my coach in the pirate game Geo? : please :

	23-06-2004 03:27									#244
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Mmmm...

* GeoModder ponders a bit...

It will be my plaisure, M'lady. Hohoho andabottleofrum... *hic*

This said, liking seafactions and being able to play them effectively in MP are two different things, but I give it my best.

	23-06-2004 05:57									#245
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quote: Besides that plasma cutter, the whole Hive navy had no armor on it's ships, impact cruisers could sink them all with 2 shots on long range fire.

How many times do I have to say this.

Bombard doesn't use armor!

	23-06-2004 06:03									#246
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I know that, Kody. That's why all the vessels I saw were bombarded from two tiles away. Off course if PEACE/Hive also would have had impact guns on their ships at that time...

	23-06-2004 06:10									#247
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Hrmm I told them not to use armor on the ships, nobody listened ofcourse.

	23-06-2004 15:46									#248
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Armor on ships makes sense if you expect enemy noodles/choppers, especially when AAA is discovered.

	23-06-2004 16:03									#249
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I would like to point out that when the ship was made the cycon didn't have choppers and AAA was still a fair way away. +3 armor without AAA isn't very useful against +6 weapons.

	23-06-2004 16:17									#250
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I would like to point out that at that time CyCon didn't had +6 weapons.

So for a direct attack this +3 armor would do some good.

	23-06-2004 16:18									#251
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And its extremely expensive pre-fusion...

	23-06-2004 19:03									#252
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Alright alright, I think I built that +3 armor ship ok? But I somehow remember I tried to change armor value and it didn't change its cost! So why couldn't I get +3 armor for free even if it doesn't do much? Of course I could have been wrong. It was simply because I didn't understand anything about bombardment at the time (still not sure I understand it now).

	23-06-2004 19:08									#253
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Mmmm... * GeoModder ponders a bit... It will be my plaisure, M'lady. Hohoho andabottleofrum... *hic* This said, liking seafactions and being able to play them effectively in MP are two different things, but I give it my best.

	23-06-2004 19:36									#254
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu Alright alright, I think I built that +3 armor ship ok? But I somehow remember I tried to change armor value and it didn't change its cost! So why couldn't I get +3 armor for free even if it doesn't do much? Of course I could have been wrong. It was simply because I didn't understand anything about bombardment at the time (still not sure I understand it now).

its easy

Direct attack is weapon versus armour
Bombard is weapon versus weapon

Yet another reason why being a seapower is tough-- Only a best-best has much survival chance and even then its not great. Thats why I have generally advocated a navy of cheap best weapon ships. When survivability is low, the only recourse is suerior numbers so you are doing the attacking