03-03-2004 19:32									#1
	The Neanderthal Men (fantasy civ) Get a bigger avatar today!

That’s my first fantasy civ project, the Neanderthal Men. I need more information to complete it, if you know anything about Neanderthals or if you hide one, please, tell me.

Civ Name: Neanderthal Men.
Bonuses: Militaristic and Expansionist.
Title and Leader Name: Primogenitor Ingo.
Favorite and Shunned Government: Despotism and Democracy.
Aggression Level: 05 (too high).
Culture Group: Mid East.
Noun: Neanderthal.
Adjective: Neanderthal Men.
Default and Alternative colors: Brown (the same of Russians) and Purple (the same of Vikings).
Unique Unit: Civilopedia entry: RACE_NEANDERTHAL

Military Leaders:
If you have a better idea, tell me.
Homo erectus
Homo habilis
Homo sapiens cro-maignon
Australopithecus afarensus

Scientific Leaders:
If you have a better idea, tell me
Lucy

City Names:
Observation: I use the name of the regions where the skeletons were found.
City 01: Arcy-sur-Cure (In this site were found the most advanced tools used by Neanderthal ever found, so it is the capital)
City 02: Neander (the first site, in Germany)
City 03: Far East
City 04: Lascaux
I need more sites!

Civilopedia, Neanderthal Men:
Here go the topics that will be explored (just the topics, not the text yet):
- They are not the Homo sapiens ancestor
- Some scientists believe that Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis coexist until 15.000 years ago
- This race was born in Middle East in 70.000 BC.
- They first fossil was discovered in Neander Valley, Germany in 1856
- No one knows exactly why they disappeared; maybe any disease present in Homo sapiens was fatal to Homo neanderthalensis.
- There is people how believes some Neanderthals are living this days, in small villages without contact with the civilized world, in governments secret labors or hide in the Himalaya.


Civilopedia, Cave Man (UU):
Replace standard Warrior, they have these characteristics:
- Cost 20 shields, instead 10.
- Attack: 03, instead 01.
- Defense: 03, instead 01.
- Moves: 02 by turn, instead 01.
- Upgrade: none
This Civ do not produce any foot unit until the Industrial Age.

Below you see some eras scenarios references.

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	03-03-2004 20:22									#2
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What a great idea!

You might like to have a look at http://members.iinet.net.au/~chawkins/heaven.htm to find out more about Neanderthals.

But I would say it seems a bit unfair to make them Militaristic - there's no reason to suppose they were particularly violent, and the fact that we wiped them out might suggest the reverse.

Also, the names you have for the military leaders are the names of other hominid species, not Neanderthal individuals at all. Obviously there are no known Neanderthal individuals, so you're going to be a bit stuck. "Lucy" was not a Neanderthal but a much earlier African hominid.

	03-03-2004 21:46									#3
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Plotinus, this site rocks, there are a lof of information to be used. Thanks!
Nobody know if they were pacific or violent, but majority people think the cave man were warriors and hunters, make this civ violent is a good idea.
Oh, I know about the military leader names, but I do not have a better idea to complete it, so I use this species names.

Regards!

	03-03-2004 22:05									#4
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Since they were hunter gathers, I would think less likely to be easy going.
Anyway it is a fantasy, so it can be what ever you want.

	04-03-2004 12:32									#5
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They were definatly not expansionistic...that's one of the key reasons they died. They prefered small isolated communities, even during the warmer periods they never ventured too far except to hunt game or if their settlements got too big.

I would go Millitartistic - Industrious

There is a lot of evidence that they were single-minded and very hard to distract once they had a task at hand. Plus they were very good at adapting to many of the new ideas the Homo Erectus brought with them.