09-03-2004 00:46									#61
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Can anyone give my some prices on imports/locals, just for comparison.

Here:

in supermarket :
Can decent lager (33cl): 0.6€
quality beer bottle ( 33 cl) : 1€

bar:
Tap (25cl) : €1.5
quality beer bottle ( 33 cl) : €2.5

Imports like Tuborg and such are are something like +10%,
Mexican beers x2,
and the few bars that sell Budweiser/similar : no idea but I guess x 2 will be close.

(those are averages off course )

	09-03-2004 00:46									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia If the problem with Bud (and it is) is that it's weak tasting, why would serving it extra cold make it passable? Surely that just kills whatever flavor there was to begin with. I only drink Bud when nothing else is available. Cheap lagers give me a hangover.

I don't know about their brewing process but this beer, while still loosing some taste, it is not that susbtantial, so that at some point, you get an equilibrium, were the taste is just storng enough to be noticed while cold enough for you taste buds not to care and your throat to appreicate the coldness.

	09-03-2004 00:47									#63
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The problem with Bud isn't that it's weak. It's that it's bitter, skunky, swill. Making it ice cold is the only way it could be tollerated. Thank god it isn't stronger.

	09-03-2004 00:50									#64
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quote: Originally posted by alva Can anyone give my some prices on imports/locals, just for comparison.

In my neighborhood- sixpack of Yuenling regular used to be $4.99. Heineken, $7.99, which seems the standard price for American microbrews and imports.

A pint bottle of Russian Beer average $1.30

At bars-huge differences:

On average, a cheap beer $3.50-4. Finer imports ~ 6 a pint.

	09-03-2004 00:51									#65
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Yeah, cold Bud is tolerable, but Bud Ice? Nothing can save that bottle of crap!

	09-03-2004 00:51									#66
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quote: Cheap lagers give me a hangover.

Often because they are chemical beers (Stella is a example), you can still get a hangover with more natural beers but they usually are less persitent.

	09-03-2004 00:56									#67
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quote: Originally posted by GePap The best single selection I have seen in the brickskeller on 22nd and Q street's in DC (I think)- worlds largest beer selection in the world- though there is a place in greenwich with 600 beers.

The only problem with places that have huge beer selections is that at any time 1/3 of them have probably gone off from sitting around too long.

quote: Now, I keep telling myself I will take the Brooklyn Brewery tour but I never do....

You really should, it's well worth it. Go on a friday night with some friends. You'll get to taste some beers you can't get in the stores.

	09-03-2004 00:58									#68
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	09-03-2004 00:59									#69
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Beer may have predated bread actually..

	09-03-2004 01:00									#70
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The problem with Bud isn't that it's weak. It's that it's bitter, skunky, swill. Making it ice cold is the only way it could be tollerated. Thank god it isn't stronger.

Perhaps the Bud you've been drinking was brewed back in the 1980's and left outdoors in the sun for 20 years. That's the only possible way to explain Bud tasting of anything.

	09-03-2004 01:02									#71
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Beer may have predated bread actually..

Yep I heard that too. Postdated mead tho' IIRC.

	09-03-2004 01:02									#72
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: Cheap lagers give me a hangover. Often because they are chemical beers (Stella is a example), you can still get a hangover with more natural beers but they usually are less persitent.

	09-03-2004 01:06									#73
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NECTAR OF THE GODS!!!

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	09-03-2004 01:06									#74
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I agree. Yesterday I made the mistake of drinking a 24 ounce can of Foster's at an event (forgotten really how low it is)-today I had a minor hangover.

The night before I had 1.5 liters of good German beer, and nothing.

	09-03-2004 01:07									#75
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That looks to me like a Bock or Doublebock.

	09-03-2004 01:11									#76
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My favorite lager:

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	09-03-2004 01:12									#77
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quote: The only problem with places that have huge beer selections is that at any time 1/3 of them have probably gone off from sitting around too long.

You can keep good beers for long time though. Just be carefull with the bottom bit ( nothing wrong it, loads of energy in there but not so good for ,hum, your bottom )

	09-03-2004 01:13									#78
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quote: Originally posted by GePap That looks to me like a Bock or Doublebock.

It's not though. Here's the description:

INGREDIENTS
American Two-row, wheat, special roast, roasted barley, english crystal malt, honey, cinnamon, ginger and cascade hops.

FLAVOR
Renowned for its spicy flavor, this beer is brewed with cinnamon and ginger. Honey is added to deliver strength and complexity.

	09-03-2004 01:15									#79
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Best brown ale:

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	09-03-2004 01:15									#80
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Depends how much cinnamon and giner they put into it. How converted is it, is there a sweetness to it. Classify it as a dessert beer?

	09-03-2004 01:15									#81
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Best stout:

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	09-03-2004 01:17									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Depends how much cinnamon and giner they put into it. How converted is it, is there a sweetness to it. Classify it as a dessert beer?

Oh no, it's definitely a beer beer. Not so sweet, but the aftertaste leaves you begging for more. If I had to drink one beer for the rest of my life, this would be it.

	09-03-2004 01:19									#83
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: The only problem with places that have huge beer selections is that at any time 1/3 of them have probably gone off from sitting around too long. You can keep good beers for long time though. Just be carefull with the bottom bit ( nothing wrong it, loads of energy in there but not so good for ,hum, your bottom )

Well it also depends on how they're kept. If it's not in a cool, dark place they'll go bad in less than a year.

	09-03-2004 01:29									#84
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Brewpubs are the best places to drink beer here, although there are some brewpub chains that I try to avoid. Capital City Brewing Co. here in DC has an excellent porter that tastes delicious at room temperature.

	09-03-2004 01:29									#85
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Brewpubs are the best places to drink beer here, although there are some brewpub chains that I try to avoid.

Why? Bad beer?

	09-03-2004 01:32									#86
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Some brewpub chains add carbonation (or what seems like carbonation to me). I think this must be to appeal to the taste of those who drink Bud Light on a regular evening.

I can't remember whether it's Gordon Biersch or John Harvard's that is the culprit, though.

	09-03-2004 01:34									#87
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I'll keep Capital City Brewing Co in mind whenever I make it down that way.

	09-03-2004 01:36									#88
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Do.

They also have a Baltimore location, IIRC.

	09-03-2004 01:39									#89
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	09-03-2004 01:41									#90
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As long as things don't get too fizzy I don't mind a bit of carbonation. Does it affect the taste?