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Where do we settle?
This poll is closed.
East 3 10.34%
South 0 0%
There! 24 82.76%
Leave it to the gods to decide our fate 2 6.90%
Total: 29 voters 100%
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Togas is offline Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:34
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Where do we settle?

Where we are now?
To the East?
To the South?

24 hour poll.

--Togas

Last edited by Togas on 09-03-2004 at 10:13
Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
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May 2001
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i vote to cast down our buckets where we are.
Paddy the Scot is offline Paddy the Scot
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
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I too like this location.

We have some good stuff to build with, and we do not loose a turn moving.
Panzer32 is offline Panzer32
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Queens University, Kingston, Ontario
Oct 2002
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

east! sugar and 2 sheilded grasses right away (plus the cow we already have!
Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
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May 2001
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what does right away matter? culture expands in 10 turns. how much are we actually going to use in that time?
Kloreep is offline Kloreep
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Jun 2002
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Here. All those lovely resources will be available in the culture-expanded radius, and we can get to work immediately.

Also, if those are wines, we'll remove them from the culture-expanded radius by moving east, making it harder to secure the happiness they can bring. (And wines would effectively make it a bonus grass as production goes.)
Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill
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Feb 2003
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I agree we should settle where we are. It has a few excellent tiles around it and even more when the culture expands in 10 turns. We likely won't be using too much more than the cattle tile for a while. Plus there are several forests around for chopping a quick granary!!

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Jun 2002
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Too many good points in favor of staying.

1) Keep the wines in our city radius.

2) We'll have the other bonus tiles in 10 turns. Our growth will be in either 10 turns, or possibly 8 if we irrigate those cattle (a wise move). Even so, we'd only have 2 turns of "non-bonus" land to work, and we can pick a forest by a river for that.

3) Why waste a turn? This spot looks just fine.

--Togas
Duddha is offline Duddha
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Los Angeles
Nov 2001
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The Banana can decide this one.
Hot_Enamel is offline Hot_Enamel
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Melbourne, Australia
Aug 2002
time: 14:34
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Thats a sweet spot just where we are.
BigFree is offline BigFree
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Acampo, CA
Oct 1999
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That is a great spot! It's a no brainer; settle now.

Arnelos is offline Arnelos
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Sep 2002
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Right where he is happens to be fine, but since we can't see what's even a few tiles away, it's hard to know for sure. :shrug:

Build where we are.
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Aug 2001
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I voted 'there'. It is the low risk move.

Trying to keep in mind that we do not need to win this one, we need only outlast 1 or 2 others (2, is it?).
BigFree is offline BigFree
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Acampo, CA
Oct 1999
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As soon as 2 teams are out, the remaining 3 move to the Final round.
Vlad Antlerkov is offline Vlad Antlerkov
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Mar 1999
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Settle here.

BTW, I'm glad that we weren't screwed over by our start for once.

BigFurryMonster is offline BigFurryMonster
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Feb 2002
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There is a little more to it.

If we move, we'll be lagging behind in culture for a long time compared to the teams that settle immediately.

This would not necessarily be a bad thing, if we were playing with 8 teams. In that case, our capital would not show up in the Top-5 City list, hiding possibly dangerous information.

However, since we are with 5 teams, we'll join that list anyway.

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edit: as I haven't played C3C much, please enlighten me: what do Sugar and Tobacco do?

edit2: With that river, let's become Research Kings!
Arnelos is offline Arnelos
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Sep 2002
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edit: as I haven't played C3C much, please enlighten me: what do Sugar and Tobacco do?


Tobacco: +1 trade bonus
Sugar: +1 food bonus, +1 trade bonus

Tobacco is only found on grassland tiles and sugar is only found on plains tiles. Thus tobacco grasslands are naturally 2 food, 0 shields, 1 trade (plus any river bonus or tile improvement bonuses). Sugar is thus naturally 2 food, 1 shield, 1 trade (plus any river bonus or tile improvement bonuses).

I generally make a practice of mining/roading sugar tiles because they yield a great despotism-era tile of 2 food, 2 shields, 2 trade. Basically sugar tiles are shielded grassland tiles with a +1 trade bonus.

E_T is offline E_T
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Orlando, Florida
Mar 2001
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

This here be Home, let's stay and grow!!

E_T
conmcb25 is offline conmcb25
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Angmar
Aug 2002
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What are those purple boxes, Grapes?

If so settle here, we get a bonus Cattles and grapes!
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No. The purple dots are possible settling locations.

The grapes are just out of view, to the north-west.
conmcb25 is offline conmcb25
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Aug 2002
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OK then, still settle were we are.

Right now we get the sheild/ food bonus from the cattle, in ten turns we get the food commerce bonus from grapes and sugar.

This is a no brainer for me, settle!!!!!

Donegeal is offline Donegeal
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Jul 2002
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Playing at Emperor Difficulty level, we will need the grapes pretty quickly to keep our people drunk off their asses and happy. If we move at all, we loose this quick advantage.

Settle right there.
asleepathewheel is offline asleepathewheel
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Mar 2002
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great start

settle here

ZargonX is offline ZargonX
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Space
Sep 2002
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Right where we are.
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Here and now.
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I think this one is pretty much settled

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