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Maybe discussion of these things in the classroom will see an eventual end to people claiming that highly developed nations have never fought poorly developed ones, or talking about that mysterious historical character "Napolean", the strange political doctrine of "facism", or believing that every country has a "capitol"...
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Solomwi
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Don King of the Apolyton HLA Movement
Dec 2002
time: 23:34
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Originally posted by Theseus
Of course, that may make my child, the future Podos POTUS, a bit prone to warmongering as a general solution, but what the heck.  |
Hey, it worked for George H. W. Bush (not a complaint, mind you). 
I was recently telling my boss, who has a son about 6 or 7 years old, about CivIII and digressed into how it might be used to spark a kid's interest in history. Heck, it did it for me. I suppose at a certain age, it'd be easy to play the game without realizing it has any historical base, but it only takes a small seed of awareness for the spark to catch.
Of course, you'd have to beware a child turning in a history paper that started off "Crusaders are slow-movers with 5/3/1 A/D/M, and are the only combat unit that can build forts. They are produced by the Knights Templar great wonder, which becomes available with Chivalry."
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Plotinus
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Always the way with American sites... I once got locked out of a chatroom for talking about mosquitos sucking blood, and I saw someone else chucked for saying they came from Cumbria... discussion of Balaam's Ass also appeared to be impossible. Americans are so prudish!
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Really? Well, I do apologise. What a slur!
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Idiocy is generally simply the disinterested nature of a person to know of a particular subject, often through a lack of balanced exposure to it. The average person is not so exposed to even the minute wealth of historical data packed into the civilopedias of civ games. Nor are they so inclined to be interested in the occurences of other culture's rich past history (or even their own more accurate one). I consistently amaze people with what I would consider basic trivial information. Thus they would not be idiots necessarily and still not know at the age of 12-13. More advanced subjects such as strategies which relate to real-world political and strategic interactions are much harder to grasp, ie many people are easily dissuaded by simple mass media marketing of propaganda. As such those 'idiots' would subsequently be less so by exposure to a historical PC title like this. (Even RON has a good deal of stuff to read up on)
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I don't see how Civ could teach anything to anyone older than 12-13. Unless they truly are idiots. |
Game theory.
Even if you don't like the game, there's a lot to learn from it.
I think it would be interesting to point out where the game deviates from history, and why, both in terms of historical accuracy and in game playing.
People are very creative about spearman beating tanks here. A classroom could be too.
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11-03-2004 18:04
(congrats, though)) is awesome. I've been advocating it for quite some time. If it isn't a standard methodology in history / politics / social studies education by the time I have kids, I'll be doing it myself.
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