14-03-2004 23:35									#61
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Planescape is connected to all the worlds there are.

Its a "nexus" a place between worlds. It is CLOSELY connected with the FR though, and there's a lot of traffic between them.

-Jam

	14-03-2004 23:38									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Planescape is connected to all the worlds there are. Its a "nexus" a place between worlds. It is CLOSELY connected with the FR though, and there's a lot of traffic between them. -Jam

Yeah... and it's where all the gods live, right?


See - this is why D&D is so cool. I don't play pen and paper, but I love reading the books just 'cause it's an amazing world that's been created for it.

	15-03-2004 03:48									#63
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Kind of, Oswald...

Its more that "Gods" and "Demons" are just another kind of creature when you get outside a material world such as ours, or the FR world.

-Jam

	15-03-2004 07:38									#64
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo I'm sick and tired of the Forgotten Realms. I'm sick and tired of godamned elves, orcs and trolls. Bring back Planescape: Torment soon! Or Fallout!

Dude we were meant for each other.

	15-03-2004 08:05									#65
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Yes, they are connected. In a way, the Forgotten Realms are a subset of the Planescape settting. That said, Planescape: torment and BG2 had very different settings. The action in Planescape: Torment took place, for the most part, in a city called Sigil. It was way cooler than BG2. For one, it was 100% elf free. Unfortunately, it didn't sell very well.

	15-03-2004 11:57									#66
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo For one, it was 100% elf free. Unfortunately, it didn't sell very well.

Plus, the plot was perfect for a prequel.

	15-03-2004 13:01									#67
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The plot contains its own prequel.

I think the setting would be great for another game - but nothing to do with TNO - no sequel or prequel.

-Jam

	15-03-2004 13:33									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Planescape is connected to all the worlds there are. Its a "nexus" a place between worlds. It is CLOSELY connected with the FR though, and there's a lot of traffic between them.

They used to call it the Astral Plane.

	15-03-2004 13:35									#69
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Yeah... and it's where all the gods live, right?

No, they live on their own planes.

	15-03-2004 16:26									#70
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Like a 747 or something?

	15-03-2004 17:09									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger No, they live on their own planes.

I assumed planescape encompassed the entire planar worlds and not just the 'nexus' plane, that I forget the name of.

	15-03-2004 17:34									#72
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Sigil.

Planescape is the whole set of the planes - but the PS:T game is mostly set in Sigil.

-Jam

	16-03-2004 08:21									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Doc Like a 747 or something?

Yeah, but much, much, bigger

	16-03-2004 08:22									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Sigil. Planescape is the whole set of the planes - but the PS:T game is mostly set in Sigil. -Jam

Oh, okay. So Sigil was called the Astral Plane.

	16-03-2004 13:04									#75
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Nono... Sigil is seperate. Its like a bubble floating on the planes. In 2nd edition D&D the Astral Plane still exists, its kind of a projection of the material world into another dimension (Far too much time reading sourcebooks as a teenager)

What was a REALLY cool 1st Edtion sourcebook was "Hollow Earth" Wow!

-Jam

	16-03-2004 13:41									#76
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No no. The Astral Plane links all the Outer Planes with the Prime Material Plane and the Ethereal Plane. The Ethereal Plane links the Prime Material Plane with the Inner Planes.

	16-03-2004 14:00									#77
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Yes yes. You are right - It links the Outer Planes with the Material Planes (the real worlds) - but I am right too, in that the nature of the Astral Plane is like ghostly projections of the Planes it touches.

Sigil has connections to everywhere though. Perhaps to every single Plane.

-Jam

	16-03-2004 15:14									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Yes yes. You are right - It links the Outer Planes with the Material Planes (the real worlds) - but I am right too, in that the nature of the Astral Plane is like ghostly projections of the Planes it touches.

I am confused. What does this mean?

quote: Originally posted by Jamski Sigil has connections to everywhere though. Perhaps to every single Plane.

That sounds like an interesting place.

	16-03-2004 15:30									#79
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Is this just like the tube station game but with planes?

If so I think you'll find the outer plane is countered by my use of the ethereal plane. I'm just hoping you don't use the Astral plane gambit.

	16-03-2004 15:52									#80
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Well, Sigils IS like an interesting place. That's why PS:T is such a good book.

The structures of the planes are pretty odd to describe...

Imagine a soup - the Etheral Plane
Now there's meat floating in the soup - the Prime Material Planes, like Earth, or the FR, or Greyhawk.
Now imagine that the meat juices in the soup, while being the same form as the bowl, also indicate the location and form of the meat chunks. - The Astral Plane.
Then imagine that each type of protein in the meat chunks has its own home, on a crouton - the Elemental Planes and the Planes belonging to certain alignments.
Now also imagine the bacteria that live in this soup have gods and demons, and they are in control of air bubbles - The Celestial and Abyssal Planes.
Now Sigil is like a "magic spoon" that contacts everything in the soupbowl at once.

Get it?

-Jam

	16-03-2004 16:04									#81
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You know, I think that's my favourite post ever. If only I could fit it all into my sig.

	16-03-2004 16:50									#82
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That post confused me.
But I am strangely hungry now.

	16-03-2004 17:05									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Doc If only I could fit it all into my sig.

A bit long, but it's not too big.

	16-03-2004 17:13									#84
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Damn.

Idea thief!

	16-03-2004 17:33									#85
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I completely concur with Skanky.

	16-03-2004 17:48									#86
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I'm not sure if I should be proud or not

I thought my soup-metaphor would help explain... perhaps I should have tried to draw a diagramm instead.

-Jam

	16-03-2004 17:51									#87
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The soup makes sense to me.

	16-03-2004 17:55									#88
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As long as it isn't a Pekka-style diagram.

	16-03-2004 18:00									#89
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"What is a Pekka-style diagram?" he asks, wondering if he really wants to know...

-Jam

	17-03-2004 08:13									#90
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I had thai noodle soup for dinner tonite.

I understand its traditional to eat noodle soup on Persian Fire Festival night, which tonight is. Though i didnt know about the tradition when i had the soup.

Obligatory on topic: any strat games including both Thais and Iranians?