02-03-2000 16:33									#1
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Some of you Apolyton old-timers will still remember this from the early days of Apolyton: There used to be quotes accompanying the "Thanks for posting your message" screens.

Now, Markos decided that he wants to start this great tradition all over again... 3 quotes have already been entered... It's up to you to suggest other ones.

So, in this thread you are invited to suggest quotes (preferably civ-related!), which can be used to accompany one of the three "Thanks for posting your message" screens (for the post reply, post new topic and edit your message "thank you" screens, each of which will have its own quote)

The intention is that each of these 3 quotes will be changed regularly (once a week or less often than that, depending on the fact if there's time available to change it)

Thank you, start the suggestions please... Markos will decide which quotes to use.
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	02-03-2000 16:38									#2
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1) something for oldies to remember... http://apolyton.net/forums/Archives/Archive-000008/HTML/20000209-1-000338.html

2) the messages are not random, but there is a separate for the messages after starting a new thread, replying and editing
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	02-03-2000 16:39									#3
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Civ related? I've been seeing Shakespeare quotes instead. "Great men......" (Went back to the regular screen too fast)

Edit: Does editing do that too?

"Be not afraid of greatness, some are born great...."

I've copied a quote!
Need to find some more...
Same quote.

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	02-03-2000 16:43									#4
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by dStryker on 03-02-2000 06:39 AM</font>
Civ related? I've been seeing Shakespeare quotes instead. "Great men......" (Went back to the regular screen too fast)

<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>This is why we want YOU to suggest Civ-related quotes

	02-03-2000 16:46									#5
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actually, shakespeare is related due to the wonder

	02-03-2000 16:56									#6
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Just like Magellan?

	02-03-2000 17:20									#7
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It's not Civ-related, but for the benefit of several posters I know here at Apolyton ( ), may I suggest...

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</font>It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center> - Mark Twain

	02-03-2000 17:32									#8
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This is Off-Topic.

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</font>Demesos, true freedom and equality, will rule the Twenty-First Century.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>-Bill3000


PLEASE but it in!
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	02-03-2000 18:04									#9
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Civ related in the sense that quite a few Apolytoners are smokers

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-Mark Twain


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	02-03-2000 18:31									#10
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"Be not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them."
-Shakespeare

Only quote I know are the ones in my sig:


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They are like two balls of burning flame.
--Pamela Anderson Lee on the residual pain caused by her surgery to remove breast implants.
I dont see "Markos can suck my *****" threads here...
--MarkG
RAH gets all the posts and we get nadda.
It just isn't fair.
--The Ferrets
I have a "surprise" for the little *********!
--Ming

Fast Eddie Flannigan
Logic Annihilator of the Marvelous PROT!
Member of the 1000 post division.
Leader of the Anti-Sidite movement!

	02-03-2000 18:33									#11
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I just put 2 in the OT forum...

Heh, heh. I just looked over that archive. Man, mj and his music, what a nut.

	02-03-2000 18:37									#12
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It's best to keep everything in one place, so here are Theben's two suggestions:

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font>No plan survives contact with the enemy.
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-Some British upperclass twit

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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>If you know yourself and your enemy, you will have success in every battle. If you know only yourself or the enemy, you will fail as often as succeed. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you shall fall in battle everytime.
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- Sun Tzu (heavily paraphased)

	02-03-2000 18:39									#13
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Alright, here are my quotes:

"No plan survives contact with the enemy." -Some British upperclass twit

"If you know yourself and your enemy, you will have success in every battle. If you know only yourself or the enemy, you will fail as often as succeed. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you shall fall in battle everytime."- Sun Tzu (heavily paraphased)

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"The collapse of communism at the end of the cold war removed from the world's political stage the last pretense of principled opposition to the rule of money, and the pages of history suggest that oligarchies unhindered by conscience or common sense seldom take much of an interest in the cause of civil liberty."- Lewis Lapham

	02-03-2000 18:42									#14
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Oh, so you didn't think I was capable of moving it myself, did ya, punk?

I still think a random quote generator would be kewl.

	02-03-2000 18:43									#15
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LOL, after you mentioned that you posted yours to the OT, I figured you weren't going to post them in here

I agree on the random generator, but does such a thing exist?

	02-03-2000 19:30									#16
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It does indeed - check out http://www.arachnoid.com/quoter/
for one (free) example there are many more out there

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"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor

	02-03-2000 19:58									#17
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Yes, take a look at who suggested it the first time I'm truly a veteran Too bad about to low post count. Anyway, I think my signature quote should get in there.

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If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon
in a perfectly useless manner,
you have learned how to live.
- Lin Yutang

	02-03-2000 20:15									#18
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I like this one.

"Skill counts for nothing when an angel pees down the touchhole of your musket." - Anonymous soldier.

	02-03-2000 23:08									#19
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I can't remember whose quote this is, maybe Martin something:
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He who thinks great thoughts often makes makes great errors

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Coug's sig quote is one of the most Civilized I've ever seen.

actually, shakespeare is related due to the wonder

In that case, we have a barrage of quotes to choose from! You could start with some SMAC quotes. If it is possible to have different quotes at different forums, it would be great to read a SMAC quote every time I post to Apolyton section. But because it probably isn't possible with the current system, you could use some of the most Civish quotes, eg:
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Some vices miss what is right because they are deficient, others because they are excessive, in feelings or in actions, while virtue finds and chooses the mean.

- Aristotle
Nichomachean ethics

<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>I really don't know what impresses me in this one.

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'Abort, Retry, Fail?' was the phrase some wormdog scrawled next to the door of the Edit Universe project room. And when the new dataspinners started working, fabricating their worlds in the huge comp systems, we'd remind them: If you see this message, always choose 'retry'.

-Bad'l Ron, Wakener,
Morgan polysoft

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(Not only in Civ, but always when using computers...)

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I swear sometimes they're watching me.

-Bozon Pete
Metagenics biomachinery division

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(About the moderators...)

Also, SMAC has some good Sun Tzu / Spartan quotes about war. Quote Chinese people as much as you can.

	02-03-2000 23:09									#20
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Some quotes by George Orwell:

• In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
  
• You have to be an intellectual to believe such nonsense. No ordinary man could be such a fool.
  
• Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
  
• We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
  
• On the whole, human beings want to be good -- but not too good and not quite all the time.
  
• The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
  
• It may be just as possible to breed a race of men with no desire for liberty as it would be to create a species of hornless cow.
  

You can use them all except from the first that belongs to my sig. (I love this grin )

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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

	02-03-2000 23:19									#21
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The Bible Quote in my Sig is Perfect for the Floodcheck Screen.

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"Now my days are swifter than a post: they flee away, they see no good." -Job 9:25

"'Blueshift' on ICQ [...] I'm talking about sound of course" -CtG

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WE SHALL NEVER FORGET!

	03-03-2000 01:02									#22
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Hey, i just happened to add a new quote to my sig. .

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"At the crossroads of the choice between 'I Know' and 'They say,' [the mystic] chose the authority of others, he chose to submit rather than to understand, to believe rather than to think." -John Galt in Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand.

	03-03-2000 02:21									#23
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

This is a misquote, it's He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.

As for quotes, please let's not do political ones or blatantly ideological ones, like Bill3K's suggestion. A few of my own, courtesy of the greatest comic strip of all time:

The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure pure reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog!

Well, it just seemed wrong to cheat on an ethics test.

Some people are pragmatists, taking things as they come and making the best of the choices available. Some people are idealists, standing for principle and refusing to compromise. And some people just act on any whim that enters their heads. I pragmatically turn my whims into principles!

Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?

If something is so complicated that you can't explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not worth knowing anyway.

I imagine bugs and girls have a dim perception that nature played a cruel trick on them, but they lack the intelligence to really comprehend the magnitude of it.

And these are just a FEW of the gems. The strip is, of course, Calvin & Hobbes.

Oh, and another good Billy quotes (I'd be happy with nothing but Shakespeare quotes as well, we could do 'em for a year, easily):

Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. -Macbeth, Act V, Scene V, Macebeth

And oh yes, check out http://www.MightyCool.com/quote/ to sign up for some actually pretty good quotes sent to your mailbox each day. If you want more Billy quotes you can search at http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/Shakespeare/nsearch.cgi for the exact references and stuff.
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	03-03-2000 02:26									#24
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Hmph. I see that the Magellan quote made it in. Let me again repeat that I for one wouldn't like to see ideological quotes in there- I mean, it's not that I'm religious that I'm objecting- I agree that the Church was wrong back then too- I just don't think we should be seeing quotes that will be distasteful to some in the list. I would have made the same comment if it had been a pro-religion quote. (not that I think that anything having anything to do with religion or politics should be out of course, but there's plenty of other valid quotes that aren't involved either. There are tons of great Bible quotes that are universal, as there are tons of great, say, Carl Sagan quotes that are also universal).

	03-03-2000 06:35									#25
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OK, these quotes are by me as far as I know, is that OK?

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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>For those who do not believe, no proof is possible. For those who do believe, no proof is necessary.
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</font>We will not know the outcomes of our decisions today until tomorrow, and can only guess what would happen if we made different decisions yesterday.
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You like?

	03-03-2000 07:24									#26
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Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

- Bob Dylan Masters of War

Any verse would be enough and I think you could justify tying any of them to Civ.

	03-03-2000 07:26									#27
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cant believe no ones thought of this-
All those quotes from SMAC!

	03-03-2000 07:32									#28
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My favourite line from Civ was:

"blah blah blah ... and this time we are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"

	03-03-2000 21:51									#29
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Pythagoras on 03-02-2000 09:26 PM</font>
cant believe no ones thought of this-
All those quotes from SMAC!
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Would you like to hear Yang's babble of genetics when you post? Or Miriam's religiousness? Maybe Lal's comment about MMI? I think I chose the best I could find, but you could try to find some from the first-time-building-an-installation quotes.

	04-03-2000 02:07									#30
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...just testing to see if my quotes were accepted...