16-03-2004 23:01									#1
	4 turns to Theory of Evolution for 6 turns?! Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

My research on Theory of Evolution had been stuck. I have Electricity and Medicine and am in a Golden Age. Moving the research slider doesn't help. It just gets stuck a different number of turns. It's just this tech, too. I switched to Sanitation and got normal progress....

Is this a bug? Is a resource required? In this game I am really, really resource constrained.

The Platform: C3C. v1.2

	17-03-2004 00:56									#2
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I'm not sure I understand.

Are you saying that you set the slider and it tells you the research will take 4 turns, but ends up taking 6 turns?

Is your Golden Age ending in the middle of the research?

Are we talking about a full blown GA, or a scientific GA, triggered by the use of a scientific leader? If it's the latter, there IS a bug with that, I think.

-Arrian

	17-03-2004 01:52									#3
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The number of turns to completion doesn't change. When I started it is 4 turns to completion. A couple of turns later I noticed the Advisors (domestic and science) still said 4 turns to completion. I moved up the slider to 2 turns to completion. It stayed at 2 turns to completion for a couple more turns. Then I moved the research slider down until I got 6 turns to completion and it remained "stuck" there, too. I changed to a different tech (Sanitation) and got normal progress. Finally, I switched back to Theory of Evolution and got stuck again.

In a nutshell. I can't make any progress on Theory of Evolution. I'm always 'x' turns away.

Thanks for the help. I had just pulling away in the tech race after falling behind for awhile working with a empire with zero strategic resources. I need the techs to stay afloat.

GA = scientific.

	17-03-2004 02:11									#4
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There is definitely a bug with Science GAs. I'm not exactly clear on what it does, but I found that techs were consistently taking 5 turns when I was told (by F1) they would take 4. I would get back-to-back turns of 1 turn remaining. But I would get the tech.

Dunno what is happening in your game.

-Arrian

	17-03-2004 02:16									#5
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Thanks. I'll try again and stay the course. Perhaps it's a reporting bug and/or the GA bonus isn't being applied.

	17-03-2004 02:26									#6
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I recall some strange research problems before 1.15. I saw this a few times, but not since 1.15.

	17-03-2004 05:43									#7
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Actually, I double checked and I am at 1.15. (I wrote the first post from work 1.15 appears to be the latest version, however...

	17-03-2004 06:51									#8
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When you load the game, it show 1.15 on the splash screen?

	17-03-2004 08:20									#9
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Yup.

	17-03-2004 10:04									#10
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Can you post a savegame plz?

see ya

	17-03-2004 16:31									#11
	Inflate your Upload Space

There have been several reports of SGA being bugged.

	17-03-2004 22:24									#12
	Got spare money?

Very strange, I had seen in before the patch. I ran a few games were I had been testing my tool for research and watched how it counted beakers and did not see the problem in those games. I have not noticed since then either.

I guess I will have to keep a closer eye on it, but it is not something that one would fail to note very often.

Did you notice any criteria for seeing it?

	18-03-2004 02:26									#13
	Increase Your PM Length

Sweat not.

This is a known bug with C3C 1.15. Don't remember this being mentioned as fixed in 1.20 or not.

Workaround, get out your pocket calculator or run your favorite spreadsheet in parallel and do the math yourself. You know how much TOE costs, should be fairly simple.

PF