23-03-2004 11:01									#61
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Okay, I have orders from everyone here... however, I won't be posting the turn until we all agree on how to handle the matter in future.

	23-03-2004 11:12									#62
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It would probably be best if we disallowed spying the turn it was built. If everyone agrees then there is no reason not to change the rule mid-game.

	23-03-2004 16:16									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns That had to have been deliberate.

Actually I knew I'd be a few minutes sending, and thought you'd respond. When I made the post I knew I was opening myself up to pot kettle black comments.

So I guess I'll pretend it was deliberate.

	23-03-2004 16:18									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns It would probably be best if we disallowed spying the turn it was built. If everyone agrees then there is no reason not to change the rule mid-game.

No I think there are only 2 possible solutions, since you have to be consistent within the game. Either we allow spies to be used on the turn they are built, or we give everyone an extra spy (except SC, who used his 'starting' spy). Probably the latter is slightly more attractive.

We can't just revert to the correct rules now since Jamski is already dead.

	23-03-2004 17:14									#65
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Sorry, I was killed by an illegal spy!

Blood shall flow!

Not to worry, give everyone the starting spy NOW.

-Jam

	23-03-2004 18:01									#66
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You were killed by a legal spy. You were prevented from causing major damage to Spaced by an illegal spy.
Giving an extra spy is hardly fair to Jam either, as he could have used that spy to keep himself in the game longer.

	23-03-2004 18:02									#67
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If I'd know I had a starting spy, I would have spy-and-bombed Spaced in round two, eliminating him

-Jam

	23-03-2004 18:39									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns You were killed by a legal spy. You were prevented from causing major damage to Spaced by an illegal spy. Giving an extra spy is hardly fair to Jam either, as he could have used that spy to keep himself in the game longer.

I concur. So we restart? Or play on with either of the 'solutions' and sod Jamski? I think it's mainly up to him.

	23-03-2004 18:45									#69
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We sod Jamski.

I'll get my revenge next time.

-Jam

	23-03-2004 18:53									#70
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Ok so now we just need to pick between the 2 solutions. I'd say give everyone a starting spy as per the flawed rules.

	23-03-2004 19:02									#71
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I say play on properly from now on. We shouldn't all get a free spy "just because".

	23-03-2004 19:10									#72
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I vote that we play by the posted rules, regardless of who actually read them.

I admit that I thought it strange that there was a beginning spy in the rules. But I thought that we had made a change, and I only trained a spy that turn to replace the one that I was using since I did not want to be one spy down on everyone.

Anyway, my thoughts on how to proceed.

	23-03-2004 19:13									#73
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quote: I vote that we play by the posted rules, regardless of who actually read them.

Even though they were the death of me for this reason (I skimskied them) I'm in agreement.

Abide by the written rules (which gives everyone a bonus spy)

-Jam

	23-03-2004 20:04									#74
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Ok it's sorted then, and GT can process the next turn at his usual time. That way we all have chance to change orders if desired.

Actually GT has a lot to do. I don't mind taking over signup and rules maintenance if it would help.

	23-03-2004 20:34									#75
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But you don't have time to play my race game.

	23-03-2004 20:45									#76
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Well signup doesn't involve a great deal, since there are only ever 8 players or so. I'm already familiar with the rules for this game.

I definitely have to cut out some of the forum games, and I want to keep up this one and gladiators so no driving.

	23-03-2004 20:47									#77
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just kidding

	24-03-2004 03:33									#79
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I guess I will agree with the majority then. Free spy just because.

	24-03-2004 05:23									#80
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Sent.

	24-03-2004 15:51									#81
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Bump?

	24-03-2004 16:26									#82
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The main event today was Vlad Antlerkov's nuking of absentee player Hercules, destroying two cities and preventing the establishment of a third. Meanwhile, everyone else was working on unkown projects.

Total Player Losses:

Hercules: 2 cities (3 left)

Remaining City List:

Doc:
4 cities (Prime, Whole, Real, hot)

Spaced Cowboy:
3 cities (No, Kill, I)

Skanky Burns:
3 cities (Thief, SMAC, Tibia)

MrBaggins:
2 cities (Mecca, Jerusalem)

Vlad Antlerkov:
4 cities (Patriot Act, tax Cuts, Why Do You Hate Antlerkovistan So Much?, Objectively Pro-Evil)

Hercules:
3 cities (Gloom, Doom, Boom)

	24-03-2004 19:38									#83
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GT,

Actually Skanky and I both have one more city.

	25-03-2004 05:01									#84
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Sent.

	25-03-2004 07:37									#85
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Time to remove some more enemies of the people.

And yes, I would like my city of Morrowind back.

	25-03-2004 14:17									#86
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Well, it's still there this morning.

	25-03-2004 14:29									#87
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The Doc ceased to exist today, as all four of his cities vanished under a hail of nukes launched by Spaced Cowboy, which also apparently killed a spy sent there by Skanky Burns, though no-one would say what for.

Meanwhile, Skanky and Vlad Antlerkov were working on an unknown project, while Hercules built the city of Woom.

Total Player Losses:

Doc: 4 cites (WASTED)

Remaining City List:

Doc:
WASTED

Spaced Cowboy:
4 cities (No, Kill, I, Jamski's Beyatch)

Skanky Burns:
4 cities (Thief, SMAC, Tibia, Morrowind)

MrBaggins:
2 cities (Mecca, Jerusalem)

Vlad Antlerkov:
4 cities (Patriot Act, tax Cuts, Why Do You Hate Antlerkovistan So Much?, Objectively Pro-Evil)

Hercules:
4 cities (Gloom, Doom, Boom, Woom)

	25-03-2004 14:37									#88
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Hehe, knew it was coming, but bunkered last turn.

	25-03-2004 16:46									#89
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Finally revenge is mine.
I'm surprised you didn't burn your spy on me though.

	25-03-2004 16:52									#90
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Well I took a chance on setting up a stockpile so I had a chance of winning. It's worked before......nothing in this game for being too timid.