22-03-2004 16:30									#31
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I am updating the scen at the moment but I have 2 problems I cannot deal with:

(1) What about those trade routes? Which tech is required to enable me to see Supply/Demand?

(2) What about that Labels which seem to be missing for loading part 3?

Any help is apreciated.

	22-03-2004 16:52									#32
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(1) Trade :Tra

	22-03-2004 17:28									#33
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Thank you very much Eivind!

	23-03-2004 16:00									#34
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NEW VERSION AVAILABLE

Just follow this link to get it.

Please forgive me just post a link but @ CDG attachments are allowed to excede 0.5 MB ...

Plesae leave your comments here

	23-03-2004 17:08									#35
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Playing on King level, as France, I discovered a major problem; Stadiums have no effect. I think a civ needs Monotheism (or it's equivalent in the scenario) for the Cathedral improvement to be effective, and France apparently doesn't have it. Just let me check something.

Yes, Monotheism is set as one of the "Not used" techs, so Stadiums will have no effect for any civ.

Also, the opening text says that I must refer to the readme file, but I can't seem to find one. Is it not done yet?

	23-03-2004 17:11									#36
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The reason for this is the unhappines in France about going to war again. How far does it affect the gameplay? If it affects it too much I might change it

Thank you for the quick feedback

	23-03-2004 19:12									#37
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Downloaded new version.

Found the thread it is in to be absolutely hilarious.

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quote: Originally posted by jim panse The reason for this is the unhappines in France about going to war again. How far does it affect the gameplay? If it affects it too much I might change it Thank you for the quick feedback

Depends. Is the intention for France to be pushed into a revolution within a couple of turns, with a new government emerging after the anarchy? If so, then it fulfils it's intended purpose (France is a Democracy, after all). If not, then it's extremely awkward and might want to be fixed.

	25-03-2004 12:06									#39
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Still can't seem to load Phase 3 in latest revision. Any progress on that?

Otherwise, OK so far.

	25-03-2004 12:27									#40
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@ Paul Hanson: I intend to do so France is possiblly the hardest nation to play since you are doomed to lose, only chance of surviving the German storm is to ally yourself with Germany - impossible

@ Agricola: I am still working on that issue!

BTW, what about the new unit stats??? Better?

	25-03-2004 15:18									#41
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Thank you for the info.

Re units: I can speak only of German units. IMO the only units worth using at present are Mot. Infanterie, He-111 and Ju-87 (against enemy units not in cities). I do not like the casualty rate I get using anything else. Consequently, Germany is re-equipping.

This is by no means a flaw in your scenario. I always make every effort to play with the best available units in a particular class and only vet units, even if it means re-arming. I consider using or building "cannon fodder" to be a waste of resources.

You may want to look at the cost of the Me-109 and Me-110. The Me-109, which has the inferior performance is more expensive.

The ranges for all aircraft are realistically short or long, depending on the aircraft.

Consider adding a slightly edited games.txt file so that the Foreign Minister's report looks like it's written by someone with your command of english.

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	26-03-2004 12:22									#42
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@ Agricola: Thank you for the feedback, next update will be available tomorrow!

quote: Originally posted by AGRICOLA Consider adding a slightly edited games.txt file so that the Foreign Minister's report looks like it's written by someone with your command of english.

Btw, how do you mean that?

	26-03-2004 16:11									#43
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OOOPS!

Add please term word "excellent" front before command term!

	26-03-2004 19:22									#44
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Thank you for the compliment

Btw, do you know someone who could help me out with the bug loading phase 3?

	27-03-2004 02:08									#45
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Alhough I haven't done any serious programming for 20+ years I think I have a possible solution. I just tested it in a very rough fashion and it seems to work.

I don't know what the correct and acceptable etiquette is in these matters but I borrowed the multi-phase software from Capt. Nemo's Red Front. I know that it works very well.

I put all the files required to run RF in a folder and copied all the icon, event and other files unique to your scenario (except the 3 phase change files) into the same folder, overwriting where necessary. I then saved an A&A game as RF.sav, changed to Phase 2, loaded RF to check that everything OK, saved again as RF (not really needed), changed to Phase 3 and loaded RF again to check that everything copacetic.

The units window in Pedia showed that units had changed properly and so had rules. There were error messages about events but, as I do not care to look at events files, I'll leave that to you to sort out. It may possibly be something as simple as using T34-85 in events as opposed to the apparently misspelled T34-81 in rules.

I have no idea how much would need to be reprogrammed to change the transition file name from RF.sav to ww2.sav .

	27-03-2004 03:51									#46
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Mmmmmmm, I will definitely try this. Though I am wondering what the rules or the events could have got to do with as it clearly says 'Labels error'?

	28-03-2004 02:02									#47
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Jim, regarding your PM, be my guest. By the way, your PM box is full!

	28-03-2004 04:41									#48
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Thank you Harry! Though I wish to add that this is a weird thing with my PM box since I have only 2 (!) PMs in there .... :dknow: Maybe some mod or admin knows more about this ...?

	28-03-2004 05:04									#49
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Really? It gave me the "this users PM box is full, he has been sent an email" screen. Hmmm, testing...

	28-03-2004 05:07									#50
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Bloody Hell... Put up a thread in Community and see what's up.

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	28-03-2004 06:59									#51
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More propably you forgot to erase the Sent items folder.
Apolyton saves every message you sent as well.

	28-03-2004 13:56									#52
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I cleaned my inbox some 4 weeks ago; I deleted EVERYTHING in it and it´s prompting since this date when more than 1, 2 PMs are in my inbox I don´t know what this one is about ....

	30-03-2004 18:20									#53
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Nov '39 and Deutschland is doing some good. Operation Fliegenklatsche, the destruction of the RAF, is about to commence. Poland, most of the Baltics, Denmark and a bit of the Balkans are now in our capable hands.

HOWEVER, a technology glitch has developed. German engineers and scientists are seemingly unable to design a parachute that actually works for the lads being trained as Fallschirmjaeger?!??!! How are we to invade England, Crete, Gibraltar etc????

Seriously, in the rules, the Air Assault Troop tech is shown to require both Third Reich and Air Control Doctrine as prerequisites. In Pedia, the tree shows that only ACD is needed. Furthermore, in Pedia/Civ Advances, Third Reich is not listed among the advances.

I even used Cheat/Tech Advance/Germany to work my way to the end of the German tech tree. Still no Fallschirmjaeger.

For a temp fix I removed Third Reich as a prerequisite in rules (no big deal as Germany already has it at the start of the scen).

Fun so far but is this ever a defensive scen. The units in cities are getting much the better of it.

	30-03-2004 21:17									#54
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I will take care of this! Thank you for the feedback, Agricola! I hope I can get a new update reaDY this week.

What exactly do you mean when you say this will be a ever defensive scen?

	30-03-2004 23:47									#55
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quote: Originally posted by AGRICOLA You may want to look at the cost of the Me-109 and Me-110. The Me-109, which has the inferior performance is more expensive.

Why are the Me-109 stats inferior to the 110?

	31-03-2004 01:20									#56
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@fairline

All parameter for the two aircraft are identical except that Me-110 has Mv=10 and Me-109 has Mv=8 in the version of the scen that I downloaded. In addition, the Me-110 has 2 turn movement so that right now alternating pairs are very effectively preventing the Royal Navy from entering the Baltic. IMO that makes it a more versatile aircraft that has the same A/D numbers as the Me-109. To a great extent it's a judgement call, multiple attacks vs versatility.

@jim panse

Excuse the slight exaggeration on my part but I've been watching Brit and French infantry, tanks and aircraft trying to attack Belgian and German cities with losses running at least 4:1 in favor of the defenders. The only enemy offensive unit that concerns me is the Russian Katyusha, it really is very strong. I do expect significant casualties once German forces go after French and British cities.

I will dutifully report the results of Operation Fliegenklatsche, a DEFENSIVE operation against the RAF, when it is completed.

BTW, Allies attacking Belgium??

	31-03-2004 08:59									#57
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@jim panse

How do I get a message to you?

	31-03-2004 15:33									#58
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It would be ok to post in this thread or over at CGD

	31-03-2004 16:27									#59
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Nope, not a good idea. Too much spoiler and other info. Please PM alternative if you can.

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	31-03-2004 20:51									#60
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Uhm, sorry for threadjacking but how did Harry get the forums to look blue? This grey color is kind of boring.