19-03-2004 16:07									#1
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Reasons to Band with CPU and go against the Drones:
* This is a Democracy game. It is all about interacting with other players both in your own team and with other teams in the game. To let a player who runs his faction as a PBEM win is just wrong.
* Honour. How much do you get if you pick on someone only when you have the support of the largest faction in the game? A faction that could arguably hold its own against the combined forces of every other faction. None, I hear you say? Correct.
* A win that will earn the Hive respect. The Hive wants to win the game, yes. But there is no glory in winning by "being picked by Buster" as the faction he wanted to coop-win with.
* Making an interesting game. Remove CPU and this game will be very dull indeed - not just for CPU players but for everyone who isn't Buster. Victory won't be assured, but if achieved will be all the sweeter.
* Roleplaying. Our active roleplaying will suddenly and almost totally be removed should we cease to exist.


Reasons for the Hive to attack CPU instead:
* You win a coop with Buster, assuming he allows you to remain in the game.
* You don't put yourself at much risk by warring against a faction facing this sudden onslaught.



Tass: Don't close this thread. This could very well decide the fate of the rest of this ACDG, and while tempers may get aroused slightly this is a conversation that needs to take place.

	19-03-2004 16:26									#2
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This issue has already been settled. The Hive will not be backstabbing the Drones.

+1

	19-03-2004 16:35									#3
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Hi Arnelos.

Was there some similar sort of drama in the PTWDG?

	19-03-2004 16:36									#4
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So, when does the new ACDG start?

How many people still want to continue with this one?

	19-03-2004 16:52									#5
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Most likely soon then.
I plan on staying and fighting. Let us kill those trecherous Hivers!

I guess Tass can close this thread then. :shrug:

	19-03-2004 17:46									#6
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quote: So, when does the new ACDG start?

Soon, I hope. I need my daily ACDG fix to keep going.

-Jam

	19-03-2004 18:10									#7
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yeah it is to bad that the HIVEthe drones and ofcourse PEACE will be destroyed now...the game was pretty funny to see everyone be as good as us

	19-03-2004 18:13									#8
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I'd really like that to be true DBTS, but I'm not sure it will work out like that.

But ideally the CPU would now kick the Hive's arse

-Jam

	19-03-2004 18:17									#9
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nah we will leave the hive for last... first we will take out the drones and then of course the believers...and keep the best butt kicking for last

	19-03-2004 19:01									#10
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I like the Drones. I am a drone.

	19-03-2004 19:17									#11
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We must unite against the tyrants. Viribus Unitis.

	19-03-2004 20:20									#12
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Its too late The Tyrants have united against you.

-Jam

	20-03-2004 03:01									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos This issue has already been settled. The Hive will not be backstabbing the Drones. +1

Thank you.

	20-03-2004 03:57									#14
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I would like to state that the Hive and the Drone have been in peaceful co-operation for at least 30 turns and this invasion was planned together that far back. The Hive or the Drone can hardly be said to be a superpower that time, with both lagging behind in technology.

	20-03-2004 05:11									#15
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I like Vev's use of "Drone" (singular)

-Jam

	20-03-2004 06:00									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I like Vev's use of "Drone" (singular)

I guess he's 'brainwashed' to a more singular way of thinking.

	20-03-2004 06:02									#17
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I was referring to the number of "players" in the Drone "faction"

-Jam

	20-03-2004 06:07									#18
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I don't see any proof that Foreman Buster is a solo-act. (If there is proof submitted, then I will admit my error).

However, as stated by Comrade Vev, we have been in peaceful cooperation with the Drones and have proven to be a loyal ally. Do we wish to be the Drones servant? No. The Hive is an autonomous state with it's own agenda.

I respect all of you Apolytoners out there. But this is a game, and as such, we are playing it.

	20-03-2004 08:10									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Was there some similar sort of drama in the PTWDG?

Yes. However, the PTWDG was so unbelievably nasty during the Vox-GS war and the initial stages of the gangbang war on RP Team that it makes the ACDG look like an innocent kindergarten classroom by comparison.

	20-03-2004 08:51									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I was referring to the number of "players" in the Drone "faction" -Jam

Jamski, please don't hang yourself on a single tree. This gets boring quickly, even with the understanding of your desire of deityhood.

	20-03-2004 09:36									#21
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What am I? Chopped liver?



Ask my pbem opponents... they know I'm no slouch.

	20-03-2004 09:45									#22
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Do you have input in Drone policy?

	20-03-2004 10:07									#23
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I had my vote on key polls, e.g. first SP, research pact with Hive, permapact/joint-victory with Hive. On less formal matters, I was the one who proposed we bug out of Uni territory before detection, so we could infiltrate unopposed.

A lot of my participation (and other's) is asking stuff and learning from Buster, which should not be discounted.

We had some experienced players who were more involved earlier in the game. Just because they haven't been lately doesn't mean they couldn't start speaking up tomorrow.

I joined late and have not always had time to get in on the details of formers, etc., so I'm not saying Buster has not been the sina qua non-- but I feel I'm part of the team.

Even that sina qua non thing (I like pretentious Latin once in a while) no longer applies at this stage. IMHO, we'd still have our joint victory if Buster had to leave and I started playing the turns.

You see now why I started the trash talking thread? There's a little "too late bye bye" in there.

Edit: Most importantly, I named a city (the thing I'm most proud of). "Labor's Love Lost" or L3 for short.

	20-03-2004 11:18									#24
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Don't forget Crazy_Achmed aka Main_Brain. He's the "heart" of the Drones.

	20-03-2004 12:33									#25
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It seems I was misinformed on the Drones then.
Apologies.

	20-03-2004 13:00									#26
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Accepted. I know we don't post here much and it wouldn't be hard to get that impression.

Does that mean you withdraw your request for the Hive to backstab us?

	20-03-2004 13:08									#27
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Whose the goto-person for Drone diplomatic matters?

	20-03-2004 14:13									#28
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If it makes you feel better jtsis, sure.
I mean, we lose nothing - the Hive have already refused...

	20-03-2004 14:23									#29
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Can I close this thread now?

	20-03-2004 14:30									#30
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Yeah, sure.