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Mao is offline Mao
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What's with the forums? Every day this week in the afternoon (3-5PM EST, maybe more) the forums freeze up and I can't connect, and neither can many of the people I've talked to. What's going on? Can it be the ICQ thingy? If it is, I vote we just drop it, how many have used it anyway?

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Mao, I share your grief. I am having the same problems. You actually beat me to this thread, I was going to start my own as soon as I could get back on. If it is the icq button, I vote to drop it too. I have the icq's i use on my list. Others I will look at the profile.

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Ming is offline Ming
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I too have had problems EVERY AFTERNOON this week. I've also received tons of emails and icqs saying the same thing... So it isn't my connection. I've had NO PROBLEM with any other site except for this one.

Maybe it is the new hacks... or maybe something else... but it should be looked into!
And thank goodness that isn't my job

My Wife Hates CIV is offline My Wife Hates CIV
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hehe I've got a T1! I've got a T1! It only takes me about 15 seconds to connect (which is a little slow).

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Hey, even markos has had a slow connection, so it's about apolytons server, the server is too slow, Buy a new one!!(to the people who own the server)

Cthol is offline Cthol
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV on 04-27-2000 06:46 PM</font>
hehe I've got a T1! I've got a T1! It only takes me about 15 seconds to connect (which is a little slow).
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>
how many megs per sec does a T1 download? what's the optimal?

Ming is offline Ming
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You are lucky MWHC... My T1 connection didn't help one bit. There were long moments of blank screens today...

Mao is offline Mao
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV on 04-27-2000 06:46 PM</font>
hehe I've got a T1! I've got a T1! It only takes me about 15 seconds to connect (which is a little slow).
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

I vote we raid Apolyton's favorite ultra-patriot and take his T1

Uncle Sparky is offline Uncle Sparky
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I thought I was the only one !!!

My computer actually froze up 2x in forums this week or so. - I have McAffee Anti-crash so I was able to revive things both times, but had to pull out of forums.

As far as I can tell - it seems to happen when the advert. links appear. Have the ugo.com people added anything to some of their ads.. eg. a new type of flash or something?

Could DanQ or MarkG look into this & report back?

It really is irritating.

Thankyou in advance!
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Uncle Sparky (edited April 27, 2000).]</font>

Mao is offline Mao
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...thing is, I don't even think mark and dan can connect...

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>Uncle Sparky related:
As far as I can tell - it seems to happen when the advert. links appear. Have the ugo.com people added anything to some of their ads.. eg. a new type of flash or something?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

Interesting. Two or three times this past week, during the slowdowns, the ads have come up as broken links--not that I'm complaining...

This warrants looking into.

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Wife-hating-Civ-victim

I truly feel your pain.

RE: the topic, I have a blazing fast connection at work and yet it often takes forever to download around the afternoon coffee break, and sometimes during lunch as well!

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Suffering from ads?

Connection speed is not an issue here. I have been running about 7.5M and this problem brings my connection to its knees. As soon as I enter the Apolyton forums, it dies and as soon as I exit them it picks back up. The ads are a major part of the problem. When data is getting hung up at the server or only getting pushed out at 12k, that is all you will be able to receive it at. Something the ISDN, DSL, Cable, etc advocates often forget to mention.

dStryker is offline dStryker
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Glad to know that people with a connection faster than 28.8k are suffering too.

I have noticed though that some forums seem to load slower than others.... (S&D, Off-Topic)

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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Cthol on 04-27-2000 06:51 PM</font>
Hey, even markos has had a slow connection, so it's about apolytons server, the server is too slow
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>you now, I'm not directly connecting to the internet from apolyton, I
have a 33.6k connection from greece

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Uncle Sparky on 04-27-2000 09:58 PM</font>
Have the ugo.com people added anything to some of their ads.. eg. a new type of flash or something?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>there are a couple ads with flash and a couple others with java frmo what I have seen

if you think it is an ad, please try to identify exactly which one it is

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btw, dont forget that we are not alone on the server. the total traffic is about 7-10 times more than ours...

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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I browse with java and javascript off, so I don't think it's related to that. Does the browser download the code anyway?

edit: Spell check. Dang allergies.
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by The Mad Monk (edited April 28, 2000).]</font>

Cthol is offline Cthol
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 04-28-2000 09:13 AM</font>
you now, I'm not directly connecting to the internet from apolyton, I
have a 33.6k connection from greece
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how did you have the money to buy ming a vacation? if you don't have the money to buy a 56 modem, which is much better.

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Markos,

When the site is slow, I haven't been waiting for the ads to download. However, when this first started (and I was waiting for them), the biggest culprits seemed to be the flash ads. Also, the one that took longest of any was the one where britny spears head (I think) was being flushed down the toilet.

In general, when the slowness is not going on, the UGO ads are getting slower and slower to display. With my direct connection, your pages load instantaniously but the ad load from the UGO server always stops for a second. And the stopage is taking longer and longer as time goes by.

If UGO would get a faster server and/or more bandwidth, it would help out all around.

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Apolyton's forums have some 5800 registered users. Even if just 1/4 of those users post and read regularly for, say, 20 or 30 minutes per day (lot of people a lot more than that), we have a massive amount of daily traffic for a server that is shared by a dozen other very popular sites, and Apolyton most likely isn't the worst bandwith hog these. So it's not surprising at all that the forums get pretty slow during "rush hours". There's no easy solution to this problem. A faster connection in your end makes no difference in this case, and it really won't help if you try to come here at some inhumane time, because it's always rush hour somewhere on the globe. We can only hope that Apolyton's host gets a faster network or divides traffic to more servers. Until that happens, you can expect on-line jam for lunch.

- Kumis

Field Marshal Klesh is offline Field Marshal Klesh
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But it's never been like this before. There must be something new to this past week or so. Or esle it would have always been like this.

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Ming is offline Ming
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I'm with FMK on this one. This wasn't a problem a week ago. These daily slowdowns may be a combination of things, but they really didn't start until the new changes were implemented on the forums.

It will be interesting to see if things slow down again today

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hey let's prevent all the yanks(not canadian) from coming here, no more rush hours!

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I don't have the problem, but I don't post much around that time, and even if I did, I might not notice (even at optimal time, apolyton loads pretty slowly ). What does kill me, is, however, the java applications in the ads (this was mentioned before). Java takes FOR EVER to initilize on my computer, so I always find myself waiting for it to finish. Another thing that takes time is when netscape displays 'reading file' across the bottom of the screen. While it is 'reading file' nothing else can happen on my computer, so multitasking becomes moot point.

Just saying what happens to me…

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</font>I browse with java and javascript off, so I don't think it's related to that. Does the browser download the code anyway?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>in the case of java I think no. for javascript yes. in anyway, if you have them off and the problem is there you should have anything to worry

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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>we dont pay him anything in the first place, so...

FMK,
we had similar problems in other times as well. Actually, it has been a sufficient time since something like that has appeared.

Btw, I should make a note that our server has an excellent uptime. our server administrator must have forgotten the last time the machine rebooted...

On last week's changes, I highly doubt they have a relation. The extra code(for the icq icon and the replies link) might have increased a bit the weight of the pages but nothing more...

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Our tech. admin. informed me that the server had to be rebooted yesterday due to an unusually large, concurrent traffic load. Any server admin. would tell you he or she has likely experienced this now and again.

As Markos already said, we are not the only ones on this server. Fortunately we have a dedicated team behind us that is very approachable regarding anything, including server jams, and take care of it as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Your best bet is, when you're experiencing such a slowdown, to try again in 15-20mins and, if the problem persists, give it an another hour or so. If even then there is still a severe lag, inform Markos and myself via email (especially if it has been 24hrs.+ since the problem first arose).

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Re : which ad is worst -

Ironically, the "Satan gives me a Chubby" ad took the longest to download tonight. - almost caused things to sieze up once.

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I had this problem once before, several months ago. It was the same recurring slowness at certain times (although it was earlier at that time). Now as then, I did a Traceroute to find the origins of the slowdown.

Both times a "sprintlink" server owned by the American ISP Sprint (last time one in Seattle, this time one in the central US) was the single server on which ping times increased dramatically, more than doubled.

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This is just speculation, but if the problem is on Sprint's severs and routers, it could be due to their new "wireles Internet" thing (a very striped-down version for cell phones) that has been around for less than a year. If it's anything like the so-called WAP services in Europe, it might put new traffic on IP based networks. But as I said, this is only speculation, so don't blame Sprint for your lag. Yet. =)

 
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