05-05-2000 14:47									#1
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I don't understand the justification given for the 150 posts per thread restriction.

Is it not the case that only the page of interest, and not the whole thread, is sent when opening the thread ?

If so, how does an overall limit help ?

	05-05-2000 14:54									#2
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I think it is going to disrupt many discussions. I don't mean that the coffee shop should be limited (it is one of the only threads with speed problems anyway), but think of Spartan Chronicles, or any serious discussion which just goes on and on. Let's take CyberShy's latest attack against atheists "Prove God wrong and become atheist or vice versa?". 4 pages. But if it was just cut off in third page, it'd mean that any referations to previous pages get very hard.

Bad thing, bad thing! Esp. if your Internet connection is quicker than 14K (I have 56)

	05-05-2000 14:57									#3
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Gary on 05-05-2000 05:47 AM</font>
Is it not the case that only the page of interest, and not the whole thread, is sent when opening the thread ?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>it is not the loading of the html file that we are talking about.
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>If so, how does an overall limit help ?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>what we are talking about is the speed of the cgi scripts.

both the posting script as well as the forum summary script work faster with smaller threads

	05-05-2000 14:59									#4
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by LightEning on 05-05-2000 05:54 AM</font>
But if it was just cut off in third page, it'd mean that any referations to previous pages get very hard.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>with the "anchor hack", each post in each thread has a specific url(example: this <a href=/forums/"/forums/Forum20/HTML/000691.html#3">link</a> points to this post). along with quotes, i dont think referring to a post in another thread is that hard
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	05-05-2000 18:26									#5
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I don't think it'll be a problem after a few days. We'll get used to this as well, just as we did with layout changes, smilies and whatnot.

When I read the title however, I was hoping it was about a 150 post limit per poster per week. Now that would have an effect on spam! Especially if it was set a bit lower. Forcing people to think before they post and economize their ressources just like IRL.

But I guess not... or just maybe..., admins?

	05-05-2000 18:32									#6
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Legman on 05-05-2000 09:26 AM</font>
When I read the title however, I was hoping it was about a 150 post limit per poster per week.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>it is a bit hard to be done...

	05-05-2000 19:03									#7
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I'm wholeheartedly for. Threads that go longer than about 100-150 usually take ages to load when you're making a reply. Good call.

	05-05-2000 19:59									#8
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The number of replies to a thread may not necessarily determine how long it is. There are some threads, like the "Propaganda" thread in the OT, that take a very long time to load, despite not having 150 replies, just because everyone's posts are so long.

	05-05-2000 22:35									#9
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I don't agree with the decision either. Who cares about the scripts? I'm more concerned about loading time, which is set at 50 replies or less.

If you do want to do this, I recommend setting the limit at 250 or something, since 150 is simply too small.

	05-05-2000 23:18									#10
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mumble. . grr, i keep typing The Unconquered in the username spot. . grr. . mumble. .

Anyhow, good call admins! I think it's a good idea. It will vastly speed things up, and i don't feel that it will intterupt discussin, as was pointed out a new thread can be started with a think to the old one. If people are involved enough in a discussion enough to get it to 150 posts, starting a new thread with a link to the old one won't slow them down.

	06-05-2000 01:13									#11
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*sob* *sob*

...*sniff* *sniff*

Meany! My shop! My Shop! Oh for the love of God won't somebody please think of the shop!

	06-05-2000 02:03									#12
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by SnowFire on 05-05-2000 01:35 PM</font>
I don't agree with the decision either. Who cares about the scripts? I'm more concerned about loading time, which is set at 50 replies or less.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>loading time(when viewing the forum summary, or when making a reply) is indeed related to how fast the scripts run
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</font>If you do want to do this, I recommend setting the limit at 250 or something, since 150 is simply too small.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>how many of the threads of the last day are over 150 posts? what's their percentage?

	06-05-2000 02:12									#13
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I'm noticing an improvement.Perhaps even lower.No big deal to make a new thread.

"blah blah blah discussion continued...."

how bout 100?

	06-05-2000 02:56									#14
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How about a 151 post limit?

CLOSE MAO DOWN!!!

I guess now he'll have to spam on even more threads

Anyway... I think that this is fair... but this may cause multiple threads on the same topic to emerge... anyway... I think its good... carry on

	06-05-2000 05:39									#15
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I think its a very good idea, I'm just mad at ming's 'holier-than-thou' thread. What happened to the 'keep the discussion to one thread so we don't clutter the front page' rule? Now there are 2 threads in OT and one here! I mean wtf? I will see you all in a week.

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you know, I take time with my double logins.. fill 'em out, make 'em look nice Its a work of art that gets deleted I tell you!
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	06-05-2000 05:46									#16
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"On the 5th of May, the Administrators hereby claimed that all threads will be closed down once they reach a certain limit. Today is a day that will live...in infamy"

Come on, that is sig material...

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	08-05-2000 05:59									#17
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I dissagree with the bannings made on saterday. I have no serious problem with the 150 limit, but I believe that the 20+ bannings is contridictary to the sprit of apolyton. I understand that the mods/admins have to keep order, but some things are not nessesary. Apolyton should be a fun place, and what happened saterday wasn't the least bit fun. While it might even have been right to ban the first few, when it became a mass mainia, the thread should have been closed. Not doing so is asking for people to post. The problem is as much the mods/admins as it is the posters…



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	08-05-2000 06:51									#18
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I BLAME THE MODERATORS FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED!!! DOWN WITH THE MODS!!!

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	08-05-2000 14:57									#19
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Me_Gusta:

Homepage, occupation, location, interests and ICQ number blank. 7 posts. Only post which I have seen is whine. Registered one day after the black saturday.

Congratulations, you passed the DL test with 96/100 points!

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	08-05-2000 17:37									#20
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Wish I knew all about cgi scripts and how they speed up with fewer posts. One day maybe.

	09-05-2000 02:44									#21
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*steers topic back to on-topic - quite a rarity from Comrade Dan*

I reckon that the limit should be at least 250 - preferably 400. What about the Coffeeshop and PROT? The Evolution/Creation threads? Propaganda? Rolf Harris?

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