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Arrian is offline Arrian
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  Old Post 23-03-2004 01:39
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Received from the MASTers:

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Hmmmn cake please.

MAST



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My response:

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OPD,

Well, there was a bit of a rush on the cake, so there seems to be a shortage. But I'll see what I can do.

I take it that you are the ambassador from MAST to CoD? I'll be your contact for now, though that might change in future since I'm currently handling all diplo contact for the team and the number of contacts has grown quite a bit in the last few turns.

-Arrian, Executive Transvestite of Team Cake or Death?

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  Old Post 23-03-2004 02:01
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If you tell me what to do, I'm sure I could atleast handle some of the other teams diplo. I would also require a save to do this successfully, though, Arrian.

Last edited by Krill on 23-03-2004 at 03:53

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  Old Post 23-03-2004 02:19
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Response from MAST:

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Well were not really that organized either, but if you send any message to Bongo or myself one of us will probably reply. Also perhaps Arnelos or Vulture, although they haven't been active recently but things may perk up a bit now that the game will start getting interesting


Krill: if you want to receive the saves, the best thing would be to post a request in the "Save Game Discussion" thread in the public forum, asking team Latin Lover to add you to their list (they play before us).

I appreciate the offer for diplo assistance. I think I may take you up on it later. First, though, I'm going to see if I can get MAST and SS (and LL, if Master Zen ever gets back to me) to agree to non-interference pacts like the one we have with Tabemono. In the meantime, read through the contact threads, and feel free to ask questions to help bring yourself up to speed on what's going on.

-Arrian

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  Old Post 23-03-2004 02:35
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Heh, wrong thread Krill, but close enough. I get them confused at times too. There is a save game thread, and a save game discussion thread.

Also, you may want to disguise your email address so spambots can get ahold of it and spam your account with crap emails.

My email, for instance: mishlea//AT//msn//DOT//com. I'm not even sure that's good enough of a disguise. Most people substitute nonsensical things for the @ and dot, and use a key at the bottom of their post to explain it.

...

New message to MAST:

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OPD,

Gotcha. CoD essentially has 5 members. Cort Haus and I are the most active. We two play the turns (mostly him) and I handle the diplo. Mountain Sage and Frustrated Poet comment when they can. Krill just recently joined us, and may in fact be helping me out on the diplo front, once we bring him up to speed.

Ok, some business: would your team be interested in a mutual "non-intereference" pact? Under such an agreement, each team would agree not to get involved in affairs on the other continent for a set number of turns, unless of course the other team ok's it (and the existence of a pact with another team does not preclude it).

If you are willing to consider such and agreement, and negotiate in good faith, I can divulge more information, such as the specific reason CoD wants a non-intereference pact.

-Arrian

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  Old Post 23-03-2004 02:50
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Does not matter. I PMed MZ, so I did not put all my eggs in one basket.

I hope they SPAM me. I need some good fiction to read, and since that stuff is worthy of the Pulitzer...

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  Old Post 25-05-2004 00:04
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And this was sent to OPD. Arrian responded to PM while I was righting this PM, after OPD had PMed me about the SPAM business outside. I rewrote the PM,

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Also there is nothing really that other teams can do to help monkey perhaps invention would help them but that hasn't even been researched yet and given the current climate on our continent there is close to zero chance of anyone making a millitary move against you.



Monkey would have to have alot of gold for that to happen. With the GA, Some of our members have questioned the logic in helping Monkey, and have not come up with an answer that we liked.

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Don't be alarmed but we did give LL contact with monkey a few days ago (before monkey started seriously offering gold for tech), but that is more to do with our continent and the fact that I think it's more fun if all civs have contact especially if there is alot of activity in public forum



Personally, I think you might be right, but I am not a leader in CoD, I'll let those strategists work on the tactics.

On a different note: I have recently been made a foreign ambassador, and so I ask you of several thngs:

How are you MASTers? We are researching Invention at the moment and wish to assess future tech trades with you, such as tech for tech, and gold for tech.

See you soon,

Krill

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  Old Post 25-05-2004 02:45
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And a reply from OPD:

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Mast are ok ATM, we're a bit behind in tech, probably 1-2 techs behind Tabe and SS in real terms. We're currently doing chivarly which we owe to SS and Tabe for previous deals. Our economy is now looking good, although alot of our money goes to other civs for lux payments and we haven't even started to buy strategic resources (horses) which will likely have to do soon.

I guess you don't want to aquire chivalry?

However the tech thing is not really that big an issue now that there are more teams to trade with, the big issue ATM is how the battle lines will be drawn which will likely make the tech deficit an irrelevance, unless we get gangbanged that is.

ATM, at least, it is more politically safe for us to stay with our continent for tech deals - for example tabe aren't going to attack us while we're researching chivalry for them, or if we are paying them gpt for a tech....
But this may change in the future.

We're ok diplomatically aswell, we're good buddies with SS and we're cool with Tabe and LL.

What do you think to the situation between Tabe and LL BTW?

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  Old Post 23-06-2004 23:36
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Sent to MAST

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Dear MASTers,

How are you? we were wondering who your current turn player was, and who we should send future diplomatic messages to, and perhaps we could bring each other up to speed on whats happening on our own Continents,


-krill
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  Old Post 24-06-2004 02:15
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From MAST (OPD)

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Well I played the last one although I'm currently trying to get Bongo to play them.

We're ok other than our forum being pretty much completely dead, that and a lack of horses.

Your war hasn't moved for a while? Are you waiting for longbows?

Don't really know whats going on on this continent, although once chivalry is around I'd expect to see Tabe make a move on LL the opportunity to take their supply of horses is going to be quite tempting.



What should I say? I'm inclined to tell him that we ARE waiting for longbows, and that we will willingly trade him horses for iron (oh, wait...), that we only have 2 active members (Arrian and CH), and that we are willing to trade invention if they can pay/trade a tech. I won't reply until some one informs me of what to do.

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4 active members, Krill We've got you and Sleepy now

We're not in a position to trade MAST any horses yet, as we're at war, out of trading range until Astronomy, and already sharing Comedia's sole source with Python. (Comedia is the name of our continent). However once Astro is here maybe we won't need our horses for a bit.

As for Iron, I'd need to check see how many MAST have, but I suspect we won't need it until Railroad, and we might need to be in a cosy alliance with someone over there to get any.

With no Iron, and only one Horses Comedia must be full of the later resources, hopefully starting with Saltpeter.

It's hardly Rocket Science to work out that CoD & Python need Longbows to progress against Numids, so there seems little point in denying it, and it would be good diplo to offer some tidbit of news, but I think we should at least be a bit cagey on principle. How about casually saying something like "Well, they defended elastically, and as massed Numids are formidible opponents for Archers and Horsemen, we are certainly looking to benefit from more sophisticated weaponry as it becomes available."

On their horses problem, I suggest we just hint that post-Astronomy, various trading opportunities will present themselves.

Arrian might want to offer a view on this.

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Arrian might want to offer a view on this.


Nothing really to add to what you said.

Longbows = duh. Clearly.

Horsie for Iron trade would be fine were it doable, which it isn't until Astro or someone builds the Lighthouse. Speaking of which, Coventry is a pretty solid producer...

-Arrian

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I did not want to let on that we had invention, that was the only reason i wrote "ARE waiting". And I thought that MAST had no iron? unless they are trading for it. I would like to get the light house, but if we can trade for the upper branch, there is no reason to build it.

here is the draft:

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Hi OPD,

Yes, you are right. We're waiting for the longbows to finally evict Monkey from "Comedia", our continent. They have a sea wall on Howler island, so there is no way of killing them off. We are never going to underestimate the NM again, either, I can tell you, and they did not really make any mistakes when defending.

Our forum is full of life compared to yours, it seems. We have 4 active members, Arrian, Cort Haus, sleepy, and myself.

Just wondering, but what techs do you have? If you are going up the theology branch, is there a chance of you trading with us? Monkeys propaganda seems to have worked


-Krill



What else do you think I should change?


OK, I've sent this to OPD, you had enough time to comment.

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Well, we won't be wiping Monkey out, as they have Howler Island. Our objectives are now to evict them. Also, I'm not sure about the third para. I suggest "Do you have any techs now or soon that you wish to trade?". I don't think we should say that we're watching their continent closely, they might get nervous.

Hot Enamel is running the propaganda line that CoD are a danger to the other continent, and we don't want to encourage that idea.

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Could you recheck please?

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From OPD

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You should speak to SS about the Theo branch. As I've said before we are doing Chivalry which unless I'm mistaken you don't neither want or need.

Although I guess you would love a bunch of knights to plough through Monkey homeland with, if you had iron.

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Aint THAT the truth!! Oh, for the ability to take our 16 horsemen and make them kniggots!

* Arrian faints

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Message from OPD:

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Heya Arrian,

can you something about ptwdg2?

SS built a city quite close to one of ours this turn and we were wondering if CoD (as a team with GP) could shed any light on why they would do that. Do you think it would be a good idea to rush some culture in our city?

opd, mast



Interesting. Very interesting. My response:

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OPD,

I can think of several potential reasons, but they would all just be guesses - and not even educated guesses, since I didn't play the last turn (Cort Haus did) and honestly we've been concentrating so much on our war that I haven't looked at your continent in some time.

It would certainly be plausible that they're making a grab for saltpeter.

I'll look into it, since I'm curious anyway.

-Arrian

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Hi OPD,

I had a look - there wasn't any SP around there.

-Cort


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Hi OPD,

I had a look - there wasn't any SP around there.

-Cort



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Cheers,

I don't know why they couldn't have built 1 tile SW then, but oh well,

opd




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Have you asked them about it?




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No, not really much to be gained from doing so, it's not as if they're going to disband the city.

Best to not to make too much of a big deal out of it, wouldn't want to go creating any tension

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Could it be for RCP purposes? If not, it's for strategic purposes - which boils down to either a defensive stronghold or an invasion staging point (or both). I wouldn't be surprised if MAST got hit.

-Arrian

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Might it be something to do with a Palace Jump?

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