23-03-2004 22:30									#1
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Good day and excuse me for asking what may appear as rookie questions but I am somewhat frustrated and need some help

As a first time player, here are the questions I have

1) while reviewing the advances trees, I noticed a "stop" symbol in grey in the upper right hand corner of certain advances, what does that indicate?
2) How does one complete small wonders since I have never seen one?
3) Do resources magically appear or can I "mine" them?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. If there is another forum that would be better to search out these answers, I would welcome that knowledge as well.

Heck, I would welcome any tidbits of information just to beat back the Celts that I am facing

	23-03-2004 22:38									#2
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quote: 1) while reviewing the advances trees, I noticed a "stop" symbol in grey in the upper right hand corner of certain advances, what does that indicate? 2) How does one complete small wonders since I have never seen one? 3) Do resources magically appear or can I "mine" them?

1) That indicates that it is not needed for era advancement. eg Republic, monarchy, economics. Usually they offer an advantage, like a new governmet, or wonder

2) Small wonders can be built by any city, (if you have the resource/s) like a normal unit or improvement

3)resources appear when you have the required tech, eg Iron workin reveals iron, the wheel reveals horses. To us the resources you must have a road leading from the resource to your cities.

quote: Heck, I would welcome any tidbits of information just to beat back the Celts that I am facing

Post a game. Lots of people will help you.

	23-03-2004 22:57									#3
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A little bit more on #2, most small wonders also have an extra requirement. For example the Wall Street small wonder requires five stock exchanges have already been built in your cities. The Forbidden Palace requires a certain number of cities that have been built (dependent on map size), etc.

As to posting save games, like Krill said there are many people here who would be happy to help you improve your game.

	23-03-2004 23:02									#4
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Zamboni,

You could also read some of the threads in the MUST READ section of the Strat forum. They helped me.

EDIT: I really need to learn how to link.

Last edited by Krill on 24-03-2004 at 00:13

	23-03-2004 23:20									#5
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One other thing, Zamboni... rookie questions are part of what these fora are all about. Anybody that minds answering them will simply not respond, and you'll find plenty of experts, like Rhothy, that don't mind answering them at all.

Heck, I wish I'd known about 'Poly when I played my first game and was trying to use my workers to road to that distant cow so I could use it, and getting mad because I couldn't colonize that wheat inside my borders but outside my city radius.

	24-03-2004 00:09									#6
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What!!! you didn't know about the almighty colony !!!

quote: If there is another forum that would be better to search out these answers, I would welcome that knowledge as well.

Nope, 'Poly is the only one.
...well, it isn't the only one, but it is THE one.

	24-03-2004 00:12									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Krill Zamboni, You could also read some of the threads in the MUST READ section of the Strat forum. They helped me.

The thread he is refering too

* Some of the info in these threads is can be slightly outdated due to patches, expansions.....

Have fun,

	24-03-2004 00:14									#8
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quote: Originally posted by alva What!!! you didn't know about the almighty colony !!!

I wanted so badly to be able to use this cool seeming new feature I had the button for. Manual? Civilopedia? Bah, what can those things tell me...

	24-03-2004 01:47									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Zamboni If there is another forum that would be better to search out these answers, I would welcome that knowledge as well.

Another good civ forum is Civfanatics.com. I personally like this one better though. However, if you decide to get into modding your game, Civfanatics is a bit more lively in their creation forum for some reason.

	24-03-2004 02:37									#10
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Yes CFC is a solid civ site.

	24-03-2004 02:52									#11
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"Yes CFC is a solid civ site."

Really? I don't like the site personally. The graphics are more intimadating, and it doesn't seem as friendly. Compare AU games to GOTM (Game of the Month). More competitive.

	24-03-2004 03:22									#12
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quote: Really? I don't like the site personally

Not liking it - and I don't care much for it either - does not mean they do not have there strongpoints too.

Willem is IMHO correct in saying that as far as modding etc. CFC probably is superior to 'poly.

Poly is much more fun though. Also I assume/guess that the average age on 'poly is higher.

	24-03-2004 03:40									#13
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Ha, Ha alva.

Yes, I will admit that it has its' good points; I have membership, so I can Download scenarios, mods etc.

It's just that I believe that this game should be fun, not competitive. That's the land of Unreal '04.

	24-03-2004 05:34									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Krill Really? I don't like the site personally. The graphics are more intimadating, and it doesn't seem as friendly. Compare AU games to GOTM (Game of the Month). More competitive.

What is there to not like? Lots of good articles, many are from our own people. Gotm has been something to at least read about.

I only posted a few times, but still it is surely a good reference site for Civ.

	24-03-2004 08:31									#15
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: Really? I don't like the site personally Not liking it - and I don't care much for it either - does not mean they do not have there strongpoints too. Poly is much more fun though. Also I assume/guess that the average age on 'poly is higher.

Well, what is the average age on poly? The poll showed recently the average age on CivFanatics was 30s (which is my current age)

	24-03-2004 08:49									#16
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 What is there to not like?

For one thing, there's a few ogres that tend to hang out there. Heaven forbid you should post in the wrong forum, and newbies have a tendency of getting thier heads bitten off if they ask a question that can be found in the over bloated Frequently Asked Questions link. I've always found posters to be friendlier here.

	24-03-2004 11:50									#17
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Fair enough, but I only said it was solid, not better. Some people like cracker can be a bit harsh, but he use to post here as well.

	24-03-2004 20:14									#18
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quote: Well, what is the average age on poly? The poll showed recently the average age on CivFanatics was 30s (which is my current age)

Sounds high.
Why;

quote: Willem: For one thing, there's a few ogres that tend to hang out there. Heaven forbid you should post in the wrong forum, and newbies have a tendency of getting thier heads bitten off if they ask a question that can be found in the over bloated Frequently Asked Questions link. I've always found posters to be friendlier here.

Funny thing is that the 'biters' ofter are recent ex-newbies.

	25-03-2004 05:53									#19
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CIV FAN was the first site that I posted on regularly, so it will always be a great place to me. I eventually moved on (not of my own accord) and discovered 'Poly and have had no reason to leave. 'Poly is my favorite site but CIV FAN is a good second.

The posters on CIV FAN are a bit more rude, and the boards also recieve much more monitoring than 'Poly, but there are also many talented and polite posters there as well. I don't know about the creation files but the CIV 3 stories section is at least the equal of 'Poly (at least when I left).

As for the FAQ, it was created to 'clear up the boards' so to speak. When CIV 3 first came out there was a lot of repetitive qestions/topics that proved to be annoying to many. Refering new posters to the FAQ before posting simply helped to reduce the number of repetitive posts.

	25-03-2004 22:34									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber Refering new posters to the FAQ before posting simply helped to reduce the number of repetitive posts.

Which is fine, but some people were getting rather silly about it. Down right obnoxious in fact. I had a run in with one of them once after getting sick and tired of him berating new posters. Mind you, things seem to have mellowed out since then.

	26-03-2004 00:09									#21
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whats 'poly?

	26-03-2004 00:25									#22
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aPOLYton. Simply a shortened name

	26-03-2004 05:13									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Willem Which is fine, but some people were getting rather silly about it. Down right obnoxious in fact. I had a run in with one of them once after getting sick and tired of him berating new posters. Mind you, things seem to have mellowed out since then.

Let me guess?

Cracker or Lt. Killer M.

	26-03-2004 12:48									#24
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CFC is a very good site, and a paradise for those who look for graphics packs, mods and such. The GOTM has a very long tradition, much longer than AU. But you can't really compare both of them. GOTM is a competition, while AU is more of a learning session.

	26-03-2004 13:15									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Willem For one thing, there's a few ogres that tend to hang out there. Heaven forbid you should post in the wrong forum, and newbies have a tendency of getting thier heads bitten off if they ask a question that can be found in the over bloated Frequently Asked Questions link. I've always found posters to be friendlier here.

I'm what? Friendly? Hehe!

	26-03-2004 16:07									#26
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Yep, you are NYE, you're getting soft in your old age.

	31-03-2004 20:31									#27
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Thanks for all the support over the past two weeks. I have managed to destroy both the Brits and Celts and even survived my computer re-build. Great to have this support...More questions to follow

	31-03-2004 23:08									#28
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There is a civ3data.pdf file somewhere on this site. It does not include PTW and C3C stuff but should still help you as a new player. Especially with the tech trees and the wonders info I was able to plan my strategies much better as far as what wonders work with my civ traits and what techs are needed to get to build the wonder.