24-03-2004 00:17									#1
	Invention for no money? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Here is the deal:
Egypt are at war with half the world (still)
We can make military alliance against four other nations - America, Korea, Russia and Rome. Egypt will give us Invention and their territory map.

What we risk:
- Loose some cities on the western continent to Rome.
- Get involved in war with more nations if some of these 4 have mutual protection pacts
- War with Egypt if they make peace with the others (I'm not very sure about this. Can someone help?)

What will we win:
- Well, Invention without paying anything. We will have our incomes of gold and we can make one archer every 3 turns to berserker.
- One powerful gracious ally - Egypt (or at least I think so)
- Modern army (roughly equal to the cavalry) and the greatest sea terror

How will we avoid the possible negative sides of this trade:
- we have landed troops from 4 galleys who will reach our undefended city (which is near the roman cities) on the western continent in 6 turns. Our horsmen can reach it in 3 turns. There are no roman troops in our sight which means they will need at least two turns to reach that undefended city.
- upgrade archers to berserkers and use our current troops to counter attacks from persians and spainiards if they try to attack our home land. I have to remind you that they have riflemen and I don't know how can we counter them...

And one last thing:
5 turns earlier we could aquire Invention for no money only for alliance vs. America and Korea. After this Egypt made peace with the Greeks and we have to get involved in war with more nations.

So, what do you think?

	24-03-2004 00:46									#2
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hmmm, great minds and all that... I just started a poll on this subject as well

Should we accept the Egyptian deal?

	24-03-2004 01:25									#3
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MPPs are not a factor until Nationalism.

What we risk instead is any of the players we declare war bribing others to declare war on us. If we declare war on all four that price may be cheap, even to the point where others might be willing to pay for the privilege of allying against us.

To negate that risk, we'd need to sign alliances in turn with the rest of the world against these four nations.

	24-03-2004 10:18									#4
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Joncnunn

again your advice is worthy, thank you

	24-03-2004 12:12									#5
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by joncnunn To negate that risk, we'd need to sign alliances in turn with the rest of the world against these four nations.

To do that we we need to open embassies in all other countries and to do that we will need alot of gold.

	25-03-2004 03:42									#6
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True, but the AI is generally willing to sell aprox 18 1/2 gold per GPT offered if we are exteremely cash straped.

(We are playing with the beta patch with the GPT bug patched, right?)

quote: Originally posted by theViking To do that we we need to open embassies in all other countries and to do that we will need alot of gold.

	25-03-2004 07:00									#7
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Were playing with PtW 1.27.

	26-03-2004 00:57									#8
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Even better; the GPT bug wasn't even introducted in PTW.

quote: Originally posted by Nimitz Were playing with PtW 1.27.