24-03-2004 01:47									#1
	Fine, We Hit the Fifty Thousand Mark Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Fifty thousand. Wow, that's big.

Err...

	24-03-2004 01:49									#2
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Couldn't you give the thread a more appropriate title?

Nevertheless

	24-03-2004 01:50									#3
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You'll probably want to rename the thread while you can, with such an obscure title we're bound to get duplicates.

My by-now traditional stats will follow soon.

	24-03-2004 01:53									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus You'll probably want to rename the thread while you can, with such an obscure title we're bound to get duplicates.

Great minds think alike

And I can't wait for your stats, oh well maybe 'till tomorrow... I have to go to bed early today.

	24-03-2004 01:57									#5
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I like being obscure. It's more fun that way. mmm statistics... can't wait. Don't know why... but I love numbers.

	24-03-2004 02:05									#6
	Inflate your Upload Space

They'll be up in a few minutes with any luck.

Why oh why did that #50000 have to register on a Champions League night? They would've been up already if it wasn't for that

	24-03-2004 02:25									#7
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Well, here they are.

First the raw data (the purty graphs are below )

code:
members		date of		days to reach		days to reach
(in 1000)	milestone				(cumulative)
0		26-7-1998		0		0
1		4-4-1999		252		252
2		7-5-1999		33		285
3		28-7-1999		82		367
4		13-11-1999		108		475
5		23-1-2000		71		546
6		20-5-2000		118		664
7		14-10-2000		147		811
8		20-12-2000		67		878
9		19-2-2001		61		939
10		14-5-2001		84		1023
11		16-8-2001		94		1117
12		19-10-2001		64		1181
13		6-11-2001		18		1199
14		10-11-2001		4		1203
15		22-11-2001		12		1215
16		11-12-2001		19		1234
17		17-1-2002		37		1271
18		5-4-2002		78		1349
19		27-4-2002		22		1371
20		8-6-2002		42		1413
21		16-7-2002		38		1451
22		31-8-2002		46		1497
23		1-10-2002		31		1528
24		5-11-2002		35		1563
25		28-11-2002		23		1586
26		26-12-2002		28		1614
27		22-1-2003		27		1641
28		27-2-2003		36		1677
29		11-3-2003		12		1689
30		4-4-2003		24		1713
31		12-5-2003		38		1751
32		25-5-2003		13		1764
33		6-6-2003		12		1776
34		17-6-2003		11		1787
35		30-6-2003		13		1800
36		13-7-2003		13		1813
37		30-7-2003		17		1830
38		17-8-2003		18		1848
39		2-9-2003		16		1864
40		20-9-2003		18		1882
41		10-10-2003		20		1902
42		27-10-2003		17		1919
43		10-11-2003		14		1933
44		23-11-2003		13		1946
45		9-12-2003		16		1962
46		27-12-2003		18		1980
47		13-1-2004		17		1997
48		1-2-2004		19		2016
49		26-2-2004		25		2041
50		23-3-2004		26		2067

code:
stats at 50,000 members:

average # of days to reach milestone...
in last 3 months: 21
in last 6 months: 19
in last 12 months: 18
in last 24 months: 24
since 2003: 19
since 2002: 25
since beginning: 41

average # of new registrations per day...
in last 3 months: 48
in last 6 months: 53
in last 12 months: 56
in last 24 months: 42
since 2003: 53
since 2002: 40
since beginning: 24

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by comparison: stats at 45,000 members:

average # of days to reach milestone...
in last 3 months: 16
in last 6 months: 16
in last 12 months: 19
since 2003: 18
since 2002: 25
since beginning: 44

average # of new registrations per day...
in last 3 months: 63
in last 6 months: 63
in last 12 months: 53
since 2003: 56
since 2002: 40
since beginning: 23

Active users stats (0 means unknown or I forgot to check them in time )

code:
Number of Active Posters (Last post made in ...)					
						
members		last week	last month	last 3 months
32000		0		1457		0
40000		850		1300		2300
41000		0		0		0
42000		600		1046		1832
43000		0		0		0
44000		940		1504		2210
45000		975		1471		2541
46000		0		0		0
47000		892		1452		2367
48000		0		0		0
49000		774		1303		2228
50000		777		1211		2131

code:
Birth of Apolyton			26-07-1998
Release of Civ2:MGE			04-12-1998
Release of SMAC				09-02-1999
Release of C:CtP			30-03-1999
Release of Civ2: ToT			31-07-1999
Release of SMAC-X			19-10-1999
Birth of Big Huge Games			28-02-2000
Release of CtP2				19-11-2000
Upgrade of ACS Forums to vBulletin	21-05-2001
Release of Civ3				29-10-2001
Death of GameStats			31-01-2002
Birth of Settler I			21-04-2002
Release of Civ3:PtW			29-10-2002
Release of MoO3				25-02-2003
Release of GalCiv			25-03-2003
Birth of Settler II			24-04-2003
Release of Rise of Nations		20-05-2003
Upgrade of Settler II RAM		27-08-2003
Release of GalCiv:EU			16-09-2003
Release of CtP2 Source Code		28-10-2003
Release of C3C				04-11-2003

(Disclaimer: meaning of 'major event' entirely subjective and not based on anything other than my personal opinion and what fitted nicely into the graphs)

More complete list of major events (to show you just a selection of the stuff I'd like to include as well but wouldn't fit in the graphs )

code:
Birth of Apolyton			26-07-1998
Birth of ACS Forums			07-08-1998
Birth of ACS Column			08-08-1998
Acquisition of Avalon Hill by Hasbro	09-08-1998
Acquisition of Microprose by Hasbro	12-08-1998
Birth of ACS Tournaments		23-09-1998
Birth of ACS Interviews			25-09-1998
Birth of ACS Chats			03-10-1999
Birth of ACS Fiction			06-10-1999
Birth of ACS Alt Games Section		15-10-1998
Birth of ACS File Database		09-11-1998
Announcement of Civ2 for PlayStation	22-11-1998
Birth of ACS Scenario Contests		28-11-1998
First Recognition from Written Press	01-12-1998
Birth of ACS (P)reviews			04-12-1998
Release of Civ2:MGE			04-12-1998
Birth of ACS Hosted Sites		08-12-1998
Release of Civ2 for PlayStation		11-01-1999
Merger of ACS and Beyond AC		15-01-1999
Announcement of C:CtP for Linux		27-01-1999
Merger of ACS and Civ2 Mac Site		30-01-1999
Release of SMAC				09-02-1999
Release of C:CtP			30-03-1999
Release of Civ2:MGE for Mac		30-03-1999
Release of C:CtP for Linux		14-05-1999
Announcement of Civ3			15-05-1999
Birth of The List			17-05-1999
Announcement of C:CtP for BeOS		23-06-1999
Completion of The List v1		14-07-1999
Announcement of SMAC-X			28-07-1999
Release of Civ2: ToT			31-07-1999
Birth of GameLeague			26-09-1999
Death of OWO Forums			07-10-1999
Release of SMAC-X			19-10-1999
Completion of The List v2		10-11-1999
Announcement of Dinosaurs		01-12-1999
Start of major ACS Upgrades		14-12-1999
Release of C:CtP for Mac		13-01-2000
Release of C:CtP for BeOS		31-01-2000
Release of SMAC for Mac			04-02-2000
Departure of Reynolds from Firaxis	08-02-2000
Announcement of CtP2			15-02-2000
Release of SMACPP			24-02-2000
Announcement of SMAC(PP) for Linux	24-02-2000
Birth of Big Huge Games			28-02-2000
Message from Sid Meier			23-03-2000
Announcement of SMAC-X for Mac		26-03-2000
Completion of Essential Civ3 List	04-05-2000
Release of SMAC-X for Mac		18-05-2000
Release of FreeCiv for Windows		10-07-2000
Departure of GameLeague			05-08-2000
Cooperation of BHG and Microsoft	29-08-2000
Birth of ACS Yearbook			15-10-2000
Success for Apolyton House		29-10-2000
Release of CtP2				19-11-2000
Acquisition of Microprose by Infogrames	06-12-2000
Death of CtP Series			20-01-2001
Death of Dinosaurs			24-01-2001
Coverage of EU				05-03-2001
Release of SMACPP for Mac		16-04-2001
Announcement of SimGolf			10-05-2001
Announcement of Civ3 for Mac		17-05-2001
Upgrade of ACS Forums to vBulletin	21-05-2001
Birth of Faces of Apolyton		06-07-2001
Birth of ACS Radio			17-07-2001
Announcement of Civ3 LE			31-07-2001
Birth of Apolyton Store			07-08-2001
Death of Loki Games			14-08-2001
Coverage of MoO				28-08-2001
Publication of Velociryx's SMAX Guide	03-10-2001
Release of Civ3				29-10-2001
Birth of ACS Music Station		20-11-2001
Move of ACS Server to AUTH		04-01-2002
Release of Civ3 for Mac			08-01-2002
Release of SimGolf			24-01-2002
Birth of ACS Democracy Games		25-01-2002
Death of GameStats			31-01-2002
Announcement of Civ Board Game		09-02-2002
Announcement of RoN			27-02-2002
Birth of Settler I			21-04-2002
Announcement of Civ3:PtW		01-05-2002
Coverage of Candle'Bre			04-05-2002
Announcement of GalCiv			22-05-2002
Creation of new Homepage Layout		12-06-2002
Birth of ACS Directory			23-07-2002
Publication of Reynolds on RoN		17-08-2002
Upgrade of ACS Store			27-08-2002
Announcement of Civ:GotY		06-09-2002
Birth of Velocigames 			08-09-2002
Death of Microprose			12-09-2002
Release of Civ Board Game		03-10-2002
Birth of ACS IRC Server			25-10-2002
Release of Civ3:PtW			29-10-2002
Release of Civ3:GotY			30-10-2002
Birth of ACS Civ Groups			30-10-2002
Announcement of Civ3:PtW for Mac	07-12-2002
Announcement of Civ3:CE			24-01-2003
Completion of Directory Import		27-01-2003
Acquisition of MacSoft by Destineer	31-01-2003
Start of BHG/ACS RoN Beta Contest	14-02-2003
Birth of ACS File Upload Service	18-02-2003
Release of MoO3				25-02-2003
Announcement of Civ3:GotY for Mac	16-03-2003
Release of GalCiv			25-03-2003
Release of MoO3 for Mac			26-03-2003
Release of Civ3:GotY for Mac		09-04-2003
Birth of Settler II			24-04-2003
Announcement of GalCiv:EU		06-05-2003
Renaming of Infogrames to Atari		07-05-2003
Birth of ACS WAP Service		13-05-2003
Announcement of C3C			15-05-2003
Announcement of Pirates! II		15-05-2003
Cooperation of Firaxis and Atari	16-05-2003
Release of Rise of Nations		20-05-2003
Conscription of MarkG			23-05-2003
Birth of ACS Shopping Centres		22-07-2003
Fifth Birthday of Apolyton		26-07-2003
Announcement of CtP2 Source Code	26-07-2003
Upgrade of Settler II RAM		27-08-2003
Release of GalCiv:EU			16-09-2003
Release of CtP2 Source Code		28-10-2003
Announcement of Civ3:Gold		18-09-2003
Release of C3C				04-11-2003
Release of Civ3:Gold			04-11-2003
Announcement of GalCiv:AP		19-11-2003
Announcement of RoN:T&P			20-11-2003
Announcement of Civ4			04-12-2003
Birth of The Civ4 List			08-12-2003
Birth of ACS File Upload Service v2	31-01-2004
Birth of new ACS Contact Form		20-02-2004
Birth of new ACS Forum Search		28-02-2004
Birth of ACS CivGroups News		29-02-2004
Creation of new Homepage Layout		07-03-2004
Birth of new ACS Radio			07-03-2004
Birth of ACS File Upload Service v3	21-03-2004
Birth of Ad-Free Hosted Site: Clash	21-03-2004

If anyone knows any more stats to include, do let me know

Last edited by Locutus on 24-03-2004 at 04:04

	24-03-2004 02:35									#8
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Yaay!!

	24-03-2004 02:41									#9
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Damn, I had forgotten how long it can take to edit all that stuff so it actually looks readable. Now for a slightly easier part: the graphs

Graph 1: Growth of forum logins (plain)

Attachment: forum logins 50k.jpg
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	24-03-2004 02:42									#10
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Graph 2: Time to reach milestone (plain)

Attachment: milestone 50k.jpg
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	24-03-2004 02:43									#11
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It'll take me a little longer to add the major events to the graphs, I will post those later tonight.

Graph 3: Time to reach milestone (since 2002)

Attachment: milestone 2002 50k.jpg
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	24-03-2004 02:44									#12
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Oh, and before I forget: 50k! Woohoo!

	24-03-2004 03:02									#13
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We really should buy an island somewhere and have ourselves a country.

	24-03-2004 03:05									#14
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Woohoo!



Great job on the charts Locutus.

	24-03-2004 03:36									#15
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Following are the same 3 graphs as before, now including major events.

It's starting to become obvious that since the release of RoN, which was basically the last real major event (expansion packs don't quite carry the weight that new game releases do -- especially if their for small or crappy games, like GalCiv and Civ3 respectively), Apolyton's growth rate is starting to slack a little. There was a period last year where we were hitting milestones every two weeks, now we only hit one once a month (still a pretty impressive rate, but not spectacular).

Firaxis and BHG need to work a little harder on those sequels and new releases

Edit: %$^@$%@ forgot attachment

	24-03-2004 03:37									#16
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Graph 4: Growth of forum logins (with major events)

Attachment: forum logins 50k events.jpg
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Last edited by Locutus on 24-03-2004 at 04:13

	24-03-2004 03:38									#17
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Graph 5: Time to reach milestone (with major events)

Attachment: milestone 50k events.jpg
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Last edited by Locutus on 24-03-2004 at 04:14

	24-03-2004 03:39									#18
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Graph 6: Time to reach milestone (since 2002, with major events)

Attachment: milestone 2002 50k events.jpg
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Last edited by Locutus on 24-03-2004 at 04:15

	24-03-2004 03:46									#19
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quote: especially if their for small or crappy games, like GalCiv and Civ3 respectively)

nicely smuggled(sp?) in .

Was was the effect of the release of the CTP source-code btw?
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quote: There was a period last year where we were hitting milestones every two weeks, now we only hit one once a month (still a pretty impressive rate, but not spectacular).

They do remain niche games, can't expect poly to keep growing as it did. At least not without a release every other week or expanding coverage to different and/or more games.

	24-03-2004 03:53									#20
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A bonus graph In it itself this one isn't very interesting, but with the events listed it shows the gradual slowdown since RoN's release fairly well.

Graph 7: Growth of forum logins (since 2002, with major events)

Attachment: forum logins 2002 50k events.jpg
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Last edited by Locutus on 24-03-2004 at 04:16

	24-03-2004 03:56									#21
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quote: Originally posted by alva nicely smuggled(sp?) in .

quote: Was was the effect of the release of the CTP source-code btw?

D'oh!!! I missed the most important event of all!

I will update everything ASAP.

quote: They do remain niche games, can't expect poly to keep growing as it did. At least not without a release every other week or expanding coverage to different and/or more games.

Indeed. But we had a new sequel or game coming out every few months (even every few weeks at one point), right now there's virtually nothing happening. Only GalCiv and RoN expansion packs (not exactly the games this site thrives on, as great as they might be) and some vague rumours about a distant Civ4.

	24-03-2004 04:04									#22
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Good work.
Interestingly, the new logins rate increased significantly just after the upgrade to settler2.

	24-03-2004 04:22									#23
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Phew

Updated everything to include the release of the CtP2 source code. It's beyond me how I missed that (I was probably too excited about it at the time to remember to add it to that stupid Excel sheet )

quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Interestingly, the new logins rate increased significantly just after the upgrade to settler2.

That, and the release of RoN, which followed shortly afterwards. I think the latter may have had a bigger impact. But the problems preceding the upgrade to Settler II may have prevented/deterred many MoO3 and GalCiv fans from registering, so once the new server was in place, I'm sure it helped jumpstart those registrations as well.

	24-03-2004 04:37									#24
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Oh, almost forgot: the bragging rights of being Mr. 50k go to ..... (drumroll) ..... Jammmo!

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	24-03-2004 05:01									#25
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Awesome graphs.

Oh, and

	24-03-2004 05:09									#26
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50K

	24-03-2004 05:21									#27
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AH's been working overtime with the double logins.

	24-03-2004 05:24									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Oh, almost forgot: the bragging rights of being Mr. 50k go to ..... (drumroll) ..... Jammmo!

Ah! Jamski had a boy!

	24-03-2004 07:04									#30
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That's quite an impressive list of Apolyton-related events, Locutus. Well done!

I would add the following two to the 'full' index:

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Start of Exclusive MoO3 Preview Series on Apolyton                          09-01-03
Contest to Choose Only MoO3 External Beta Testers Begins on Apolyton        18-09-02