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Mar 2001
time: 14:34
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 TurnChat / Senate Session 36 Part II
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: everyone loaded
Rasputin: gee two paddysare two much
Paddy5: so you ready
Paddy5: yes or no?
Nimitz2: yes
Paddy5: end turn
Rasputin: uhoh we upset persia
Paddy5: yep
Paddy5: my bad - goodbye
Rasputin: k
Rasputin: damn hope we dont upset the people with those ironclads
Paddy5: ha
Paddy5: we are just moving troops through
Paddy5: Aztec RoP?
Rasputin: yers
Paddy5: we are about to go to war with them when our new settler settles next to there Iron
Rasputin: good
Paddy5: so should we accept RoP now then
Rasputin: why not
Nimitz2: no
Paddy5: I do not think so either
Nimitz2: ROP rape will hurt all
Rasputin: mitiz being a dia i tohugh tyou would encourag peace
Nimitz2: future deals we make
Paddy5: Not a chance - goodbye
Rasputin: is the DIA for the future war with aztecs ?
Nimitz2: I'm also a diplomat
Paddy5: Bifrost queue to Market place
Nimitz2: We don't care as they are just waisting space
Rasputin: there foes another citry
Paddy5: BFC has become spainish
* Paddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
Rasputin: Yuo dont care about some civs !!!
Nimitz2: That in DIA term is just cause for war
Rasputin: so dia do support war .. good
Rasputin: good to hear all three partys are warmongers
Nimitz2: if a civ takes our land the DIA supports wiping them off the map
Nimitz2: now if not
Paddy5: Twang fort
Paddy5: Ormen lange, unload workers 6
Paddy5: Ormen Lange 8-8-9
Nimitz2: the DIA will only support it if it is a very superior way
Paddy5: Gisd a job 6
Paddy5: Troden galley stack 9 sit
Rasputin: dia support war when their is money put i9n their pockets, corrupt politicians
Paddy5: TBFree galley stack 9 sit
Nimitz2: No when it means our survival
Nimitz2: as a nation
Paddy5: The Edge galley 6-6-3
Nimitz2: at the moment we need wars to live
Paddy5: The Edge galley 6-6-3 is wrong
Nimitz2: later we may not
Paddy5: The Edge galley 3-3-3
Paddy5: Mad X 6-6-3
Rasputin: hs just to suit yourself
Nimitz2: the DIA will not do stuff to cause the nation to die
Paddy5: Digger & Ralf 7
Rasputin: got two orders for the egd galley ???
Paddy5: oh you are playing
Rasputin: i taske it youmeant 3 3 3
Paddy5: then you will see between the two orders something else
Rasputin: al gore ??
Paddy5: Al gore stack 7
Paddy5: Mad V 6
Paddy5: Oct X stack 7
Paddy5: Apple Splitters 4
Paddy5: Settler F 3
Paddy5: Slenda mine
Paddy5: Polo club 8
Paddy5: Land Robber 8
Paddy5: Gamp 8 Fort
Paddy5: settler 4
* Maki_lurking has joined #civ3dem
* Maki_lurking is now known as Makahlua
Paddy5: Hi Mak
* Makahlua waves
Rasputin: uh oh maks here !!! 
Paddy5: New Pike in Valhalla name = Larry, forts
Paddy5: New Pike in Valhalla name = Larry, forts
Paddy5: time to search the cities again
Makahlua: Depressing CSI rerun, iI hate the last 10 minutes... 
Makahlua: how's the war?
Paddy5: war is quiet
Rasputin: waiting for acion
Nimitz2: yes good
Nimitz2: I like this war being quite
Nimitz2: its not our war
Paddy5: we only declared for the tech deals to be broken
Nimitz2: in the next war we should attack Persia
Paddy5: or spain, and take back BFC
Paddy5: 
Nimitz2: We need everyone off our lands
Paddy5: our fleet is coming back, so we can mount an attack soon
Rasputin: you want war with persia ???
Paddy5: are you searching the cities?
Rasputin: too keep bfc we will nee dto get rid of all spanish citys o n homeland
Paddy5: keep it???:?
Paddy5: where are you old chap
Paddy5: it turned on us this turn
Nimitz2: all other nations terr. in our lands
Rasputin: i mean when we get it back
Paddy5: PBorg temple is 168 to rush, it stands close to growing persian cities
Nimitz2: we need to push out our cultural boarders
Paddy5: so yes
Paddy5: PBorg temple is 168 to rush
Paddy5: any thing else then
Rasputin: why we building more wetllers in new west islands when we need temples
Paddy5: next turn we will start moving troops over to the souther isle
Paddy5: we are building 2 more to take land still open and some more off the aztecs
Rasputin: whatever
Paddy5: does anybody need the save
Paddy5: Makahlua
Rasputin: no
Paddy5: ??
Paddy5: Nimitz2??
Rasputin: wheres judy with the drinks el preisdento
Paddy5: good question
Paddy5: {Judy, more drinks thanks babe }
Nimitz2: no
Paddy5: saving
* Nimitz2 is now known as Nimitz
* Rasputin looks at judys jugs and takes one
Makahlua: yes i do need the save, thanks
Paddy5: Makahlua do you want the save?
Paddy5: hahahahaha
Makahlua: (sorry trying to pay attention in 2 places at once!
Paddy5: right you are
* Nimitz slaps Makahlua around a bit with a large trout
* Nimitz slaps Rasputin around a bit with a large trout
* Nimitz slaps Rasputin around a bit with a large trout
Paddy5: uploading, will take a few minutes
* Rasputin throws nimitz aside into the bin of trouts
Rasputin: leave us aloone
* Makahlua slaps Nimitz around with a fresh mahi-mahi
Rasputin: whats a mahi mahi ????
* Nimitz slaps Rasputin around a bit with a large trout
Makahlua: a bottlenosed fish they get in Hawaii. white flesh, fairly mild, but clean flavor
Rasputin: ok
* Nimitz shoots Rasputin many times with large trout
Rasputin: bottlenosed like a dolphin ??
Makahlua: like a dolphin, yeha, but it's not dolphin
*Rasputin is now known as General
* General is now known as General_Raz
General_Raz: heheh poor dolphins
Paddy5: Save is on the start thread
* Nimitz shoots PFC_Raz many times with large trout
* Makahlua repeats - it's _not_ dolphin, don't make me goolgle it!
General_Raz: oi i the bad tpyist here stop copying me
General_Raz: have we ende4d turn ywt pasddy ?
Paddy5: no
General_Raz: ok
Paddy5: ok, everyone loaded then
* General_Raz pulls out his supanova banana gun and blasts nimitz !@!!!!@@!@!!@!
Makahlua: loaded 
General_Raz: wooohooo
General_Raz: 
Nimitz: ?me wonders were a barbarian such as Raz would get such a device?
* Nimitz wonders were a barbarian such as Raz would get such a device?
Makahlua: wormhole.
Paddy5: so nothing else then
General_Raz: fortunaly i have access to the cross dimensional; univerese that yoiu do :LOL:
Nimitz: not even the first game had such things
Paddy5: end turn
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Mar 2001
time: 14:34
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TurnChat / Senate Session 36 Part III
General_Raz: ha one up on you then
Nimitz: if you use stuff like that go to the SMACDG
General_Raz: nah dont have smac....
General_Raz: mum alwaays told me not to use smack, it rots your brain
Makahlua: oi! don't slander my beloved ACDG ;p
* Nimitz runs over PFC_Raz with a large tank
* General_Raz ouch'
Makahlua: Hey, Monte wants to move or else
General_Raz: move
General_Raz: ?
General_Raz: hmmmmm
General_Raz: paddyyyy
Paddy5: yeah
Paddy5: Riflemen in to BFC
General_Raz: are we moving the troops out of persia
Makahlua: :"you can't park your troops there!"
Paddy5: hmmm
General_Raz: persia dmeands we move trooops
Makahlua: Aztec did it on my end.
Paddy5: well to the Aztecs we move settler on its way - goodbye
General_Raz: hmmm my game persia making demands
Paddy5: are you in PTW Raz ???
General_Raz: yepppo
General_Raz: hmmmm
Paddy5: where did Persia demand anything?
General_Raz: they jsut asked me to rmeove my trooops
Paddy5: only demand I saw was from Aztecs
General_Raz: ok got aztecs up now...
General_Raz: what did we agree to withthe aztecs ?
Paddy5: did anyone else have this Persia issue ??
Paddy5: we move for the Aztecs for now
General_Raz: k
Paddy5: Nimitz did you have this Persia issue ??
Paddy5: Makahlua did you have this Persia issue ??
Nimitz: no
General_Raz: only me apparetly
Paddy5: hmmmmmmm
Paddy5: and you are in PTW?
General_Raz: yep
General_Raz: move on it apepars opk at moment
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: PBorg queue to barracks ???
General_Raz: ok
Paddy5: PBorg queue to barracks
Paddy5: we lost opur supply of horses when we lost BFC
Paddy5: Rainbow wait
Paddy5: ormen Lange 9-9-6
General_Raz: i get feeling we not doing so well in this game
Paddy5: Bobs workers stack mine
Paddy5: Troden galley stack 6-6-6
Paddy5: TBFree galley stack 6-6-6
Paddy5: Mad X 8-9-9
General_Raz: k
Paddy5: The Edge 3-3-6
Paddy5: Digger and Ralf 8
Paddy5: Al gore stack road
Paddy5: Mad Valkeryies 4
Paddy5: Oct X 7
Paddy5: Jon spears 2
Paddy5: Settler 2
Paddy5: Mantris 7
Paddy5: Apple splitters 8-8-7
Paddy5: Poloclub 8
Paddy5: LandRobber roads
Paddy5: Settler settles
Paddy5: Hammerfest founded 880AD
Paddy5: Hammerfest queue ???
General_Raz: spear
Paddy5: Hammerfest queue spear
Nimitz: yes
Paddy5: Paddys friend road
General_Raz: wonder if we ,ose those other southern city to spanish culture ?
General_Raz: wheres paddys friend ?
Paddy5: they are in real trouble
Paddy5: Paddys friend Icebear Camp 1
General_Raz: no paddys friend ??
General_Raz: ill need the save nex tturn
General_Raz: paddy has no firends
Paddy5: ok
Nimitz: wont we all
Paddy5: behave
General_Raz: party time in brisbane !!!!
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: Riflemen 4-6-1
Paddy5: Berzerker 6-2-1
Paddy5: Swords 3-2-1
Paddy5: We know they have riflemen in BFC and Jaen
General_Raz: they move ?
Paddy5: they are unit stats
General_Raz: oh ok
General_Raz: if this was real life i would plead emercy now ...
General_Raz: we are ******
Paddy5: .so we need to look at taking BFC and Jaen or losing the southern isle etc
Paddy5: swearing :{
Paddy5: Makahlua??
Paddy5: Nimitz???
Nimitz: the south is in a dangerous situation
Paddy5: Raz???
Paddy5: yes
General_Raz: what?
Paddy5: so what should we do?
General_Raz: i dont think we strong enogh to fight persia too
Paddy5: lets hear allyou thoughts
Nimitz: we need it all or we will lose it all
General_Raz: sorr spain
Paddy5: why fight Persia?
Paddy5: ok
General_Raz: spain already showed us we prettyweak
Nimitz: some berezerkers will fix that
General_Raz: i never used a berzerker before so unsure how they weill fair..
Nimitz: attack from the sea
Nimitz: the get a 2x bonus
General_Raz: but we dont hav e any at present
Paddy5: we have 5 galleys on there way home
Paddy5: we can change some pike queues to Berzerkers
General_Raz: ok upgrade to berzerkers
General_Raz: upgrade archers
Makahlua: we've got enough $$ to upgrade 4 archers to berxerks too
Paddy5: cool
Paddy5: Valhalla queue to Berzerkers
Makahlua: we've really got to take the south isle back
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: FoG queue to barracks
Paddy5: Thor was here queue to Berzerker
Paddy5: should we change BMB from aquaduct to Berzerker?
Makahlua: yeah the palce is corrupt anyway, and we might need some pinch hitters down there
Paddy5: change BMB from aquaduct to Berzerker
General_Raz: goto go guys, migh tbe back later..
General_Raz: see yas
* General_Raz has left #civ3dem
Nimitz: ok
Paddy5: oh
Paddy5: lets up grade two archers then
* Makahlua votes for her dusghters ^^
Paddy5: indeed
Paddy5: SaG, Makahluas daughters upgraded to Berzerkers
Paddy5: nice axe
Makahlua: hehehe. just don't tick em off... ^^
Paddy5: Paddy and the Scots upgraded to Berzerkers
* theViking has joined #civ3dem
Nimitz: the Secret Service :/
theViking: hi
Paddy5: hi
Paddy5: RoV Secret Service upgraded to Berzerkers
Paddy5: we have 107gold left, enough for 1 more upgrade this turn
Paddy5: Valhalla, Long Beards 2-2-1
Paddy5: Valhalla, Larry the Pike 2-2-1
Paddy5: kinda sounds like a fish name
Paddy5: New Asgard, Black Beards upgrade to Berzerkers
Paddy5: anything else then
Paddy5: time to search the cities
Paddy5: we will have a save soon
theViking: good
Paddy5: it has been a sad day here already, BFC went to Spain
Paddy5: RoV about to grow
Paddy5: RoV about to grow
Paddy5: will be in disorder?
Paddy5: yet take 1 wf to tax and still grows in 3 turns
Paddy5: RoV wf 6 to tax
Paddy5: anything else then
Paddy5: anything else then
Paddy5: saving
Makahlua: not from me, and i'm outta here - have to get up in 7 hours and for once i can't oversleep ^^
* Makahlua waves
Paddy5: bye
* Makahlua has quit IRC (Quit: )
Paddy5: uploading now, will take a minute or two
theViking: loading
Paddy5: Save is up3
Paddy5: cool
theViking: ok
Paddy5: ok.
Paddy5: anything else then
theViking: seems as Rainbow is out of work
Paddy5: yes but waiting for a lift
theViking: ok
Paddy5: end turn
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Mar 2001
time: 14:34
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TurnChat / Senate Session 36 Part V
Paddy5: Persia, move now - goodbye
Paddy5: Cleo, apologize - goodbye
Paddy5: Korea, wines for our gems and 2 gpt ???
theViking: will we try to get more?
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: that is the best so far from them
theViking: ok
Paddy5: do we reaklly need the wines
theViking: it is on
theViking: one
Paddy5: so do the deal
Paddy5: ??
theViking: unless we can trade with somebody else
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: well then we will come back to korea later then
Paddy5: ha
theViking: ok
Paddy5: valhallas give ent
Paddy5: Thors Hammer give ent
Paddy5: SaG give ent
Paddy5: give all ent
theViking: dam.. the wine
Paddy5: yep
theViking: GodKing won't like this
Paddy5: I am in trouble now
Paddy5: Rainbow 7
Paddy5: Daughters of Mak 2
Paddy5: Paddy 2
Nimitz: lots of trouble
Paddy5: secret Service 2-1-1
theViking: all of us
Paddy5: new berzerker in RoV name = ???
Nimitz: Thud
Paddy5: new berzerker in RoV name = Thud, move 3-2-2
Paddy5: Band of merry men stack 2-2-2
Paddy5: TBFree galley stack 6-6-6
Paddy5: Mad X 6-6-6
Paddy5: The Edge 8-9-9
Paddy5: Digger & Ralf 7
Paddy5: Jon Spears and settler 9 or 6 ????
Nimitz: 9
theViking: 6
Paddy5: hahahaha
theViking: dont sit one the geme
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: Jon Spears and settler 6
theViking: if Azteces have any gold then get it
Paddy5: slenda worker stack 6
Nimitz: I thought we were founding a city on the sea to attack them from
Paddy5: ok so do we attack that hoplite
theViking: cannot attack
theViking: Aztecs
theViking: 2 agains 3 defence?
Paddy5: we have 2 swords and archer there
Paddy5: yes, twas a question
Paddy5: swords attack at 3
theViking: ok it will give us to slaves
Paddy5: so shall we send the swords in
theViking: ...hm ok
Paddy5: Nimitz??
Paddy5: Mantris 8-9-attack 9
Paddy5: Mantris is gone, hoplite has 1 hp left
theViking: want to swap?
Paddy5: Oct X 8-9- attack 9
Paddy5: Hoplite dead, Oct X elite , lost 1 HP, captured 2 slaves
Paddy5: what happened on yours then ?
Nimitz: same
theViking: Mantris won
theViking: new save for me next time
Nimitz: oh and FREE the slaves 
Paddy5: oh
Paddy5: ok
Nimitz: 
Paddy5: hahaha
theViking: No keep the slaves ...
Paddy5: where shall we send the slaves?
Nimitz: A.S.E. here I come Again
theViking: we need roads to the iron
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: need names too
theViking: wog1 and wog2
Paddy5: slave names = wog1 and wog2... move 1
Paddy5: slave names = wog1 and wog2... move 1
Paddy5: Mad Valk 2-3-3
Paddy5: Apple splitters 1-2-2
Paddy5: Ormen Lange sits
Paddy5: Troden 8-8-9
Paddy5: wow
Paddy5: time to search the cities again
Paddy5: great names, now we just need a darren Hynch
theViking: maybe one of the wogs should have been Effi
Paddy5: hahahaha
theViking: Sould we try to get some wine?
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: Korea will not deal with us as before
theViking:
Paddy5: indeed
Nimitz: they traded off the extra already
Paddy5: France wines for our Gems, WM and 60 gold
Paddy5: ??
theViking: america will give something for gems
Nimitz: sounds good
Paddy5: France wines for our Gems, WM and 60 gold
theViking: ?
Paddy5: we have more gems
theViking: we giv wm and 60g
Paddy5: america will give 5 gpt
Paddy5: yes
theViking: 5 * 20 = 100 , ok
Paddy5: america will give 5 gpt for gems
Nimitz: no its 6 gpt
Paddy5: persia will give 12 gpt
Paddy5: thanks Nimitz
theViking: one more round
Nimitz: lets start selling
Paddy5: yes to Persia???
theViking: yes
Paddy5: persia will give 12 gpt
Paddy5: persia will give 12 gpt fo r gems
Nimitz: 15 gpt
theViking: ?
Nimitz: persia
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: thankls
theViking: To bad I cannot get into the bidding
Paddy5: anything else in the cities?
theViking: Could not see anything, but i didn't loos the wine
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: here we go
Nimitz: lets do the trades this turn
Paddy5: TWH ent to 7-7
Nimitz: the money will help
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: Vallaha ent to 7-7
Paddy5: trade with Persia
Paddy5: trade with america
Paddy5: THammer ent to 2
Paddy5: Sag Ent to 2
Paddy5: Bifroast ent to 8-9
* ormuzd has joined #civ3dem
ormuzd: hello
ormuzd: are you still playing?
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: FoG ent to 6
Paddy5: RB ent to 7
Paddy5: RB ent to 7
Paddy5: ok, anything else then?
Paddy5: saving
Paddy5: uploading
Paddy5: end turn
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TurnChat / Senate Session 36 Part VI
Paddy5: Persia, move now - goodbye
Paddy5: Cleo, apologize - goodbye
Paddy5: Korea, wines for our gems and 2 gpt ???
theViking: will we try to get more?
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: that is the best so far from them
theViking: ok
Paddy5: do we reaklly need the wines
theViking: it is on
theViking: one
Paddy5: so do the deal
Paddy5: ??
theViking: unless we can trade with somebody else
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: well then we will come back to korea later then
Paddy5: ha
theViking: ok
Paddy5: valhallas give ent
Paddy5: Thors Hammer give ent
Paddy5: SaG give ent
Paddy5: give all entPaddy5: Persia, move now - goodbye
Paddy5: Cleo, apologize - goodbye
Paddy5: Korea, wines for our gems and 2 gpt ???
theViking: will we try to get more?
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: that is the best so far from them
theViking: ok
Paddy5: do we reaklly need the wines
theViking: it is on
theViking: one
Paddy5: so do the deal
Paddy5: ??
theViking: unless we can trade with somebody else
Paddy5: hmm
Paddy5: well then we will come back to korea later then
Paddy5: ha
theViking: ok
Paddy5: valhallas give ent
Paddy5: Thors Hammer give ent
Paddy5: SaG give ent
Paddy5: give all ent
theViking: dam.. the wine
Paddy5: yep
theViking: GodKing won't like this
Paddy5: I am in trouble now
Paddy5: Rainbow 7
Paddy5: Daughters of Mak 2
Paddy5: Paddy 2
Nimitz: lots of trouble
Paddy5: secret Service 2-1-1
theViking: all of us
Paddy5: new berzerker in RoV name = ???
Nimitz: Thud
Paddy5: new berzerker in RoV name = Thud, move 3-2-2
Paddy5: Band of merry men stack 2-2-2
Paddy5: TBFree galley stack 6-6-6
Paddy5: Mad X 6-6-6
Paddy5: The Edge 8-9-9
Paddy5: Digger & Ralf 7
Paddy5: Jon Spears and settler 9 or 6 ????
Nimitz: 9
theViking: 6
Paddy5: hahahaha
theViking: dont sit one the geme
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: Jon Spears and settler 6
theViking: if Azteces have any gold then get it
Paddy5: slenda worker stack 6
Nimitz: I thought we were founding a city on the sea to attack them from
Paddy5: ok so do we attack that hoplite
theViking: cannot attack
theViking: Aztecs
theViking: 2 agains 3 defence?
Paddy5: we have 2 swords and archer there
Paddy5: yes, twas a question
Paddy5: swords attack at 3
theViking: ok it will give us to slaves
Paddy5: so shall we send the swords in
theViking: ...hm ok
Paddy5: Nimitz??
Paddy5: Mantris 8-9-attack 9
Paddy5: Mantris is gone, hoplite has 1 hp left
theViking: want to swap?
Paddy5: Oct X 8-9- attack 9
Paddy5: Hoplite dead, Oct X elite , lost 1 HP, captured 2 slaves
Paddy5: what happened on yours then ?
Nimitz: same
theViking: Mantris won
theViking: new save for me next time
Nimitz: oh and FREE the slaves
Paddy5: oh
Paddy5: ok
Nimitz:
Paddy5: hahaha
theViking: No keep the slaves ...
Paddy5: where shall we send the slaves?
Nimitz: A.S.E. here I come Again
theViking: we need roads to the iron
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: need names too
theViking: wog1 and wog2
Paddy5: slave names = wog1 and wog2... move 1
Paddy5: slave names = wog1 and wog2... move 1
Paddy5: Mad Valk 2-3-3
Paddy5: Apple splitters 1-2-2
Paddy5: Ormen Lange sits
Paddy5: Troden 8-8-9
Paddy5: wow
Paddy5: time to search the cities again
Paddy5: great names, now we just need a darren Hynch
theViking: maybe one of the wogs should have been Effi
Paddy5: hahahaha
theViking: Sould we try to get some wine?
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: Korea will not deal with us as before
theViking:
Paddy5: indeed
Nimitz: they traded off the extra already
Paddy5: France wines for our Gems, WM and 60 gold
Paddy5: ??
theViking: america will give something for gems
Nimitz: sounds good
Paddy5: France wines for our Gems, WM and 60 gold
theViking: ?
Paddy5: we have more gems
theViking: we giv wm and 60g
Paddy5: america will give 5 gpt
Paddy5: yes
theViking: 5 * 20 = 100 , ok
Paddy5: america will give 5 gpt for gems
Nimitz: no its 6 gpt
Paddy5: persia will give 12 gpt
Paddy5: thanks Nimitz
theViking: one more round
Nimitz: lets start selling
Paddy5: yes to Persia???
theViking: yes
Paddy5: persia will give 12 gpt
Paddy5: persia will give 12 gpt fo r gems
Nimitz: 15 gpt
theViking: ?
Nimitz: persia
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: thankls
theViking: To bad I cannot get into the bidding
Paddy5: anything else in the cities?
theViking: Could not see anything, but i didn't loos the wine
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: here we go
Nimitz: lets do the trades this turn
Paddy5: TWH ent to 7-7
Nimitz: the money will help
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: Vallaha ent to 7-7
Paddy5: trade with Persia
Paddy5: trade with america
Paddy5: THammer ent to 2
Paddy5: Sag Ent to 2
Paddy5: Bifroast ent to 8-9
* ormuzd has joined #civ3dem
ormuzd: hello
ormuzd: are you still playing?
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: FoG ent to 6
Paddy5: RB ent to 7
Paddy5: RB ent to 7
Paddy5: ok, anything else then?
Paddy5: saving
Paddy5: uploading
theViking: thanks
theViking: hi Ormuzd
* Nimitz sleeps while typing
Paddy5: save on the start thread.
Paddy5: can we take a 5 mins break?
Paddy5: 900AD
theViking: Paddy you know that the Viking age ended at 1030?
theViking: sorry 1066.
theViking: 5 mins ok
ormuzd: it was written in the civilopedia somewhere
ormuzd: riots?
ormuzd: our people are rioting?
Paddy5: ouch 1066... we are so so close
Paddy5: yes My error in not continuing a wine deal with Korea
ormuzd: proposal
ormuzd: Birka builds aqueduct
ormuzd: they can't grow in size anymore
theViking: I am loaded
ormuzd: I'm too
ormuzd: so, let's change production in Birka
Paddy5: too?
ormuzd: I don't think we need library
ormuzd: maybe a courthouse?
Paddy5: or marketplace in 7
ormuzd: the market place will give us + 2 gold
Paddy5: good
ormuzd: 1 for its maintainance, this means only 1
Paddy5: will courthouse bring back the lost shields
theViking: some
Paddy5: so court house then
ormuzd: 25% I think
Paddy5: yes or no
ormuzd: there were some formulas and calculators somewhere
theViking: 25% = 1
ormuzd: I'm for courthouse
Paddy5: Nimitz???
Paddy5: Birka queue to courthouse
Paddy5: anything else then
Nimitz: nope
theViking: btw birca can grow..
Paddy5: with aquaduct we could add more people to birka though
Paddy5: yes, those irrigated tiles
ormuzd: and where will they work?
theViking: we have two mines without food
theViking: fishermen
ormuzd: ok, then return the aqueduct
Paddy5: so do we want the chouse or aquaduct
theViking: aqu
Paddy5: Birka queue to aquaduct
ormuzd: this means three more people and more production from the mountains
* General_Raz has joined #civ3dem
ormuzd: kalgoorlie
General_Raz: im back
ormuzd: hi, Raz
theViking: Hi private_raz
ormuzd: we can move the fisherman to the grassland and make one more taxman
ormuzd: this means one more gold
* General_Raz is now known as FieldMarshallRaz
FieldMarshallRaz: got promoted
FieldMarshallRaz: LOL
ormuzd: self-promoted
FieldMarshallRaz: yep nothing better
Paddy5: ormuzd, do you want the fisherman to tax or field
FieldMarshallRaz: let me know when save is up
Paddy5: it was just put up 900AD
theViking: The tax man gives us more than a fisherman
FieldMarshallRaz: k
Nimitz: Keep promiting yourself and you will be Courtmarshalled
Paddy5: Kalgoorlie wf 3 to tax
Paddy5: ok
ormuzd: we have two man producing one food
Paddy5: I have a problenm in Kalgorlie
ormuzd: the will work the grassland, the other will taxman
Nimitz: lack of food
Paddy5: I have 2 happy, 2 content, and 2 tax
Paddy5: ok
FieldMarshallRaz: is tha tthe only change since save paddy?
ormuzd: move the one from the plains then
ormuzd: yes, it is the only change
theViking: 2 3 1
Paddy5: thanls
Nimitz: why do we have a tax there at all
Nimitz: 2 happy and 3 content
ormuzd: because the corruption is high
ormuzd: ok, here is the deal
ormuzd: wf 3 - taxman
FieldMarshallRaz: kalgorrolie lacking in food now ???
Paddy5: Kalgoorlie wf 3 to tax
ormuzd: wf 8-9 to 8-7
ormuzd: result
ormuzd: 2 happy, 2 content and 2 taxman
ormuzd: zero city growth
theViking: I have lost track of this/ save for me please
Paddy5: Kalgoorlie wf 8-9 to 8-7
FieldMarshallRaz: are we doing 8-9 to 8-7
FieldMarshallRaz: ok
theViking: ?
Paddy5: I just did the save
Paddy5: that is why I ask bef=opre save ing if anything else
theViking: thanks
Paddy5: you will need a new one now
Paddy5: anything else
ormuzd: I didn't look the rest of the cities
theViking: no I think...
Paddy5: time to search the citiues
Paddy5: again
theViking: smooko
Nimitz: third time this turn
Paddy5: yhes
FieldMarshallRaz: so why is there a taz poerson in kalgorrlie anyway
Paddy5: so anythiong else then
FieldMarshallRaz: yes stil thinking bout kal
ormuzd: nothing else
FieldMarshallRaz: hmmmmm
FieldMarshallRaz: why not make kal have ecess food to grow
Paddy5: almost 2 hours for this turn now
FieldMarshallRaz: you dont want kalgoorlie to grow ??
Paddy5: what
Paddy5: we do not have an aqua duct yet
Paddy5: and hi corruption
Paddy5: ormuzd, do you have anything in other cities
ormuzd: why do we need it to grow?
ormuzd: no, nothing else from me
Paddy5: saving
FieldMarshallRaz: the tax man doiesnt appear to give anything extra ...
ormuzd: he gives gold
ormuzd:
FieldMarshallRaz: gold goes in corruption
FieldMarshallRaz: doesnt the city screen change to show extra gold when using tax men ?
Paddy5: uploading
ormuzd: no, gold from taxman goes directly to the tresure
ormuzd: gold from commerce goes to corruption
FieldMarshallRaz: hmmm maybe i better go i dont know enough about the game
ormuzd: after this the rest is separated between income, science and luxury
ormuzd: you'll learn
theViking: No don't go, just change yor title
Paddy5: Raz, stick around
* FieldMarshallRaz is now known as idiot
Paddy5: Ok, save now loaded
theViking: I din't mean that!
theViking: and I can't spell
ormuzd: and how will talk to you? idiot? no
ormuzd: set it to simply Raz
* idiot is now known as simple_Raz
Paddy5: ahhhhh
theViking: not easy, not...
theViking: ok i am loaded
Nimitz: hmm Raz is going for some new names
ormuzd: we have the theology already?
Paddy5: so can we end turn now???
theViking: Maybe he should go for senator Ra
theViking: z
theViking: ok
simple_Raz: zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Paddy5: end turn
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TurnChat / Senate Session 36 Part VII
theViking: should we tell the Aztecs ow or later?
ormuzd: does Persia want to make any deals in your games?
simple_Raz: tell aztecs to get stuffed, what harm can htey do us
ormuzd: we will move our troops away...
theViking: none
ormuzd: and good bye
theViking: off for 30 min
ormuzd: they have alliances with some others
Paddy5: yes
ormuzd: and the others can cause great harm to us
simple_Raz: ok another error
ormuzd: shall I give the orders?
Paddy5: apologize now, but move on, then declare next time???
Paddy5: or declare war now???
ormuzd: why declare?
Paddy5: or apologise and move back
ormuzd: declare on next turn
ormuzd: have we to move out?
Paddy5: 4apologise - goodbye
Paddy5: no
ormuzd: then it is ok
ormuzd: theory of evolution
ormuzd: starting with this wonder I have builded every great wonder in all my games until now
simple_Raz: not this game
simple_Raz: we hav eno wonders
Paddy5: 4Ormen Lange, wake transported and move them
Paddy5: 3
Paddy5: 4Ormen forts
Paddy5: 4secret service 2
Paddy5: 4rainbow 7-4-4
Paddy5: 4Worker bee stack roads
Paddy5: 4Band of merry men stack 1-1-1
Paddy5: 4Thud 2-1-1
Paddy5: he is un named on the saves, opps
Paddy5: 4troden galley stack 8-9-9
Paddy5: 4TBFree galley stack 6-6-6
Paddy5: Madrid X 9 sit
Paddy5: 4Madrid X 9 sit
Paddy5: 4The Edge 9 sit
Paddy5: ok, jon spears, settler... do we settle here now
simple_Raz: will make war !??
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: so do we declare
simple_Raz: so what is differnec eto doing it last turn ??
Paddy5: or pull back to that spare tile
ormuzd: first sell our WM for theirs and 3 gold
ormuzd: or build one tile southwest (keypad 1)
Paddy5: theViking???
Paddy5: 4sell our WM for aztecs wm and 3 gold
Paddy5: done
simple_Raz: done
Paddy5: Nimitz?
ormuzd: build there - they are at war with egypt
ormuzd: they have RoP with Persia but we are allied with them
ormuzd: and the aztecs can't give them nothing to declare war against us
ormuzd: we will survive the war with them some how
Paddy5: so do we declare before we settle
theViking: yes
Paddy5: ok
Paddy5: 4declare war on Aztecs
Paddy5: we are at war
Paddy5: 4settle settler
Paddy5: 12Igloo HQ founded 910AD
Paddy5: queue???
Paddy5: 4Igloo HQ queue spears
Paddy5: 4algore wk stack 4
Paddy5: 4slenda wk stack roads
Paddy5: 4Mad V forts
simple_Raz: brb... phone
Paddy5: ok
ormuzd: what are bulding in Igloo HQ?
Paddy5: 4Aple splitter 3-3-3
Paddy5: Paddy5: Igloo HQ queue spears
ormuzd: ok
ormuzd: thanks
Paddy5: 4wog stack 8
Paddy5: 4Oct x 9
Paddy5: 4Paddys friend 4
Paddy5: 4Digger and ralf 8
ormuzd: move octavian to Icebear camp - there areunhappy people
Paddy5: 4Jon fort
Paddy5: oct could only move 1 tile
Paddy5: 4wiwm, map makers 8-8 fort
Paddy5: thanks for the tip
Paddy5: 12time to search the cities again
Paddy5: 12 any one have anything ???
ormuzd: we don't need market place in Vidso
Paddy5: .what would you like there
ormuzd: don't know
ormuzd: we have 12 shields accumulated
ormuzd: maybe temple for some culture?
Paddy5: already got one.
ormuzd: we can make peace with greece
Paddy5: good
Paddy5: cost??
ormuzd: they will give us something
Paddy5: cool
Paddy5: what
ormuzd: 15 gold, 14 gpt, world map
Paddy5: great
Paddy5: shall we accept
ormuzd: or printing press for 40 gold
theViking: Can I have the next save pleas?
Paddy5: hmmm, printing preesss
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: to the save
Paddy5: printning press next democracy
ormuzd: if we make peace with them do we risk war with egypt?
Paddy5: hmmm
Paddy5: theViking???
theViking: No but they won't be happy..
Paddy5: hmmm
ormuzd: it deosn't matter I guess
ormuzd: if we wait is it possible greece to give us more?
ormuzd: peace with russia for 26 gold and world map (thiers)
Paddy5: 12so is peace with Greece off then?
theViking: Lets make pace all around and take on the spains
Paddy5: yes
Paddy5: so to greece
Paddy5: do we take the gold or the tech
ormuzd: do we need democracy?
theViking: no never use it
Paddy5: it would be better economy than monarchy
Paddy5: hahahaa
Nimitz: yes
Paddy5: so gold
Paddy5: Nimitz???
Nimitz: worse for war
Nimitz: Democracy
Paddy5: simple_Raz???
theViking: wasted time in anarcy
Nimitz: you never should of went Monarcy them
Nimitz: Should of beelined Republic
Paddy5: 12so gold or tech
theViking: in our situation monarcy is the best
Nimitz: not with our cities fliping left and right
Nimitz: we have hardly been to war
theViking: Persia and Spain..
Nimitz: twice well in the first game it was like 3 or 4 times atleast by now
Paddy5: hi
Nimitz: and we managed with the Republic
Nimitz: of course we were larger by this point
Paddy5: and in this game
Paddy5: I go for Tech
Nimitz: me
ormuzd: let's vote
ormuzd: gold or tech?
theViking: we need tech, yes
simple_Raz: im back
Nimitz: Tech
ormuzd: 3 for the tech
ormuzd: Paddy5, Nimitz and theViking
Paddy5: ok, so peace with greece for the tech
ormuzd: then
theViking: yes
ormuzd: 12Peace with greece; they give printing press, we give 40 gold
simple_Raz: well i bleeive it dont matter,, we wont get far anyweay, we need war techs
Paddy5: ormuzd, what is the best tech deal you can do with Greece
ormuzd: I'll try some more
ormuzd: we need astronomy
Paddy5: are you trying with Greece?
simple_Raz: we need nukes to win this game :LOL:
Paddy5: or others
ormuzd: education for 18 gpt
Nimitz: and MA
Paddy5: with who?
ormuzd: we need tanks
ormuzd: just that
ormuzd: I'm trying with greece only
ormuzd: the others are much too greedy
theViking: we need nuks
Nimitz: no Tanks
simple_Raz: no everyone else will ahve tanks beofe us and use them
simple_Raz: ai rarely usues nukes till it too late
Nimitz: not if we had them now
ormuzd: chemistry for 30 gpt, wm and 1 gold
ormuzd: japan doesn't have chemistry
theViking: take chem
Nimitz: yes Cem
ormuzd: forget the nules
simple_Raz: well i got to run guys... GF want smy attention
ormuzd: we don;t have horses at this time
Nimitz: we can trade it to Japan
simple_Raz: have fun and remever its only a game
* simple_Raz has left #civ3dem
ormuzd: yes, chemistry is more valuable
ormuzd: I wonder what will happen if we declare war to greece agin
Paddy5: bye
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time: 14:34
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TurnChat / Senate Session 36 Part VIII
theViking: when was civ "only a game" ?
ormuzd: will they ever trade to us again?
Nimitz: lol
Nimitz: oh well
Nimitz: gpt will be gone
Nimitz: they and anyother AI will never do it
theViking: I think we lost our reputation a while ago
ormuzd: we have done it twice until now
Nimitz: no not really
ormuzd: 7 turns ago
Paddy5: yes
Nimitz: the AI will still do GPT
Paddy5: so what is the deal then
Nimitz: we agreed to an alliance
ormuzd: more exactly greece who was the first to suffer our cowardice
Nimitz: so it was a much smaller hit
theViking: russia was the first I think
Nimitz: because we were asked to
ormuzd: will we try to cheat them for thechemistry?
Nimitz: not unless you want a double hit
Nimitz: one for breacking the alliance and then for going back to war
Nimitz: and breaking the treaty
theViking: if we can get chem, go for it
Nimitz: yes I would say buy chem
Paddy5: I thought we wanted to take oput spainish cities on southern isle
Nimitz: then sell it to Japan
Nimitz: yes why
theViking: when we get BFC back we will have horses
Nimitz: so do the deal
Nimitz: thats my vote
theViking: chem for?
Paddy5: what is the deal then?
ormuzd: Nimitz, if we make peace with greece, will we go to war with egypt?
theViking: no
ormuzd: good then
ormuzd: we have three deals (actually more but I'll ignore the others)
ormuzd: take gold from greece for nothing - 15 lump, 14 gpt and WM
ormuzd: 2. printing press for 40 gold
ormuzd: 3. chemistry for 30 gpt, WM and 1 gold lump
ormuzd: which do you think:[/b][/color]
ormuzd: I like all of them
theViking: what is printing press doing in PTW
ormuzd: but with the third we can trade something to japan
Nimitz: 3
ormuzd: it is doing nothing
ormuzd: just delays the discovery of the democracy
Paddy5: 3
theViking: 3 then and war next
ormuzd: ok, then make it
ormuzd: 3 votes again - 75%
ormuzd:
Paddy5: 4greece chemistry for our 30 gpt, WM and 1 gold lump
ormuzd: we are cowards but we are rushing through the mediaeval
theViking:
Nimitz: lol
Nimitz: how are we cowerds
Paddy5: . 4deal done
Paddy5: next
theViking: I think I will need a save after this
Nimitz: to japan
ormuzd: next - will we make peace wit hrussia?
ormuzd: only 26 gold from them
ormuzd: ok, japan
Paddy5: one at a time plaesea
theViking: 26 is good
Paddy5: russia???
Nimitz: fine with me
theViking: russia..
Paddy5: what is the deal ormuzd
ormuzd: first, japan
ormuzd: chemistry for education, 15 gold, wm and 3 gpt
ormuzd: I think it is a good deal
ormuzd: I can't get printing press from them
ormuzd: but we don't need democracy right now, are we?
Paddy5: 4oyr chemistry for education, 15 gold, wm and 3 gpt from japan
Paddy5: japan do not accept
Paddy5: opps
Paddy5: done
ormuzd: ah,ok
Paddy5: got the gpt around the other way
Nimitz: ok what tech can we skip
ormuzd: and getting astronomy
ormuzd: and I'll stop responding for ome time
Nimitz: I'd say Econ, Free Art., Music, Chiv., and maybe Nav
Paddy5: 7well my dial up has done another 5 hours, back in 3 - 4 minutes
Paddy: hi
ormuzd: some want to give 1 gold for our world map
Nimitz: Good night all
Paddy: so do we have a new deal
ormuzd: good night, Nimitz
Paddy: bye Nimitz
* Nimitz has quit IRC (Quit: )
ormuzd: still nothing
ormuzd: just informing
Paddy: and Russia???
ormuzd: music theory means nothing to the ai - we can get it without any problem
ormuzd: peace with russia for 26 gold, music theory and their world map
Paddy: they will give us 26 gold, music theory and their world map???
ormuzd: yes
Paddy: ok
Paddy: theViking??
Paddy: I like it
Paddy: ormuzd, do you like it
ormuzd: yes, why not?
Paddy: cool
Paddy: thanks
ormuzd: this will make the persians a little bit angry
Paddy: 4peace with russia for 26 gold, music theory and their world map
ormuzd: but we can't trade with them anyway
Paddy: yes
Paddy: 4deal done with Russia
Paddy: we are moving through the middle ages
ormuzd: sell world map to greece for 8 gold
ormuzd: sell world map to america for 21 gold and their wm
Paddy: 4sell world map to greece for 8 gold
ormuzd: exchange world maps with rome
Paddy: 4sell world map to america for 21 gold and their wm
Paddy: 4exchange world maps with rome
ormuzd: exchange world maps with egypt
Paddy: 4exchange world maps with egypt
ormuzd: sell world map to the celts for 2 gold
ormuzd: exchange world maps with france
Paddy: 4sell world map to the celts for 2 gold
ormuzd: sell world map to persia for 1 gold
Paddy: 4exchange world maps with france
theViking: I will load the new save when it is ready
Paddy: 4sell world map to persia for 1 gold
ormuzd: sell world map to korea for 1 gold
ormuzd: sell world map to england for their world map and 1 gold
Paddy: 4sell world map to korea for 1 gold
Paddy: 4sell world map to england for their world map and 1 gold
ormuzd: sell world map to spain for 3 gold
Paddy: 4sell world map to spain for 3 gold
* Paddy5 has quit IRC (Ping timeout )
Paddy: 12anything else?
Paddy: 4saving
ormuzd: maybe declare war to greece?
ormuzd: no other deals possible now
Paddy: do we want to declare now then
ormuzd: I don't know
Paddy: theViking
ormuzd: I'm not sure I want it
Paddy: ok
ormuzd: but we are giving them 30 gpt
Paddy: theViking???
ormuzd: the only AI with gold is Persia - they have 16k
ormuzd: all others are at 0
Paddy: yes3
Paddy: this will be my last turn... 7 hors alreaduy is a tad extreme
Paddy:
theViking: sorry I have been away...
theViking: extreme 12 hour?
[b][color=blue]theViking:
Paddy: yes but this is the 3rd day in a row
Paddy:
theViking: Ok paddy just joking
Paddy: so is my wife
theViking: joking? not mine!
Paddy:
Paddy: 12save is on the start thread
theViking: do you want me to load and do another turn?
Paddy: I am here for 1 more turn
Paddy: sorry to cause confusion
theViking: ok
theViking: loading
theViking: loaded
theViking: and ready
Paddy: 12anythingelse
Paddy: 4endturn
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