25-03-2004 21:19									#1
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A question:

how many of you like(d) to start an accelerated game? I.e. you start playing with several bases, an SP finished and around 40 MY done by the game.

	25-03-2004 22:19									#2
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Never.

Never, never, never.

The computer has always WRECKED the early game, which is the most crucial phase.

-Jam

	25-03-2004 22:32									#3
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder A question: how many of you like(d) to start an accelerated game? I.e. you start playing with several bases, an SP finished and around 40 MY done by the game.

I'd rather have my eyes gauged out with a spoon.

C

	25-03-2004 22:36									#4
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Can't say as I've ever tried it, but I agree that you'll just wind up with a flubbed opening, 9/10 times.

	25-03-2004 22:44									#5
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Well, something most players agree on then

	26-03-2004 00:15									#6
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quote: Originally posted by CEO Aaron Can't say as I've ever tried it,

Me either, and I figure it's one more thing the AI can screw up.

	26-03-2004 00:38									#7
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It favors playing a mometum faction and peanlizes a builder faction.

	26-03-2004 00:44									#8
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Accelerated start? Pass the puke bucket!

	26-03-2004 00:46									#9
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Come on, someone say they always use it

-Jam

	26-03-2004 01:02									#10
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Well, it can be considered an extra advantage for the AI factions. You have to clean up the mess from the first 40 years governing of your predecessor (Lal, Miriam, Zak, whoever...)

	26-03-2004 01:32									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Come on, someone say they always use it -Jam

Nope and I wouldn't care to play against humans using it but I WILL play against the AI in that format. Its a quicker game and in some ways reminds me of the switching factions challenge as you spend your first little while undoing some of the crap the computer has done on your behalf.

I wouldn't play humans using it as humans are challenge enough. You could likely start with a large advantage or disadvantage and neither makes for a fun or fair game

	26-03-2004 01:44									#12
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I'll second Flubber. Every so often I'll do a builder faction like Morgie in an accelerated start.

	26-03-2004 02:38									#13
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I see your point, but personally I don't enjoy pain

-Jam

	26-03-2004 02:58									#14
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Accelerated start makes for an interesting game.

	26-03-2004 03:40									#15
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Think of it as handicapping, for those poor, poor AIs. It's like you're given the oppotunity to take control of a new Iraqi regime.

	26-03-2004 12:54									#16
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Can't say I've tried it.

	26-03-2004 20:41									#17
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Taken control of an Iraqi regime? I did once... didn't work out so well. I didn't speak the language.

	27-03-2004 02:36									#18
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How randomized is the starting year? Usually (if memory serves me) I started at 2140, 4 bases and a SP. Last night I was testing a bit, and Uni started at 2180.

	27-03-2004 10:13									#19
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I prefer to screw up on my own.

	27-03-2004 11:16									#20
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quote: Originally posted by gwillybj I prefer to screw up on my own.

Seconded. I do a damn good job too.

	28-03-2004 23:23									#21
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I like accelerated start. It gives you something to do right away in a MP game rather than 20 or so short-do-nothing moves. You all start off in the same AI created mess so there's not any disadvantage. I'd try an acceletated MP game if anyone is interested. However, players who can't get in a move a day or a move every 2 days need not apply

	29-03-2004 00:09									#22
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Those 20 short-do-nothing moves are some of the most critical in the game. I NEVER want the AI to do them for me.

	29-03-2004 03:47									#23
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What? How can anyone not enjoy hopelessly botched terraforming, base improvements that you don't even have the tech for, the most critical base typically in drone riot, and generally a bad, hemmed in faction location?

Many players wind up being able to clean the AI's clock but remain intimidated by MP. Think of accelerated start as good training for MP games. You have to learn to play with but a single one of the early, critical SPs whereas in normal SP mode I, for one, am inclined to take practically all of them.

	29-03-2004 12:41									#24
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I like the idea of an accelerated start, but I despise the execution of it.

I have been thinking about alternative multiplayer (and multifaction democracy) game scenarios, and a planned "accelerated start" scenario seems really interesting to me at the moment.

*returns to tinkering with his initial faction relations matix*

	30-03-2004 21:03									#25
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Remember, each faction gets one secret project too. That means you missed out on 6 other secret projects. As for me, seeing what kinds of places the computer considers good places for bases, I'd never want that dang computer placing my bases for me. Everyone has their own strategy, the computer only has one. Again, this is why the AI really can't allow you to have an interesting game.