26-03-2004 09:16									#1
	Gamespy titlefight scandal: Diablo II Cheated! Enter the AD-FREE zone

I'm actually serious about this. I don't own Starcraft, so I'm not some bitter starcraft "fanboy" or anything like that.

In the first day of the match, Starcraft was beating Diablo II quite solidly. By the time most people on the East Coast went to sleep, it was ahead by about 1500 votes. But somehow, during the night, Diablo pulled ahead.

Here's why: a guy at a site called blizzhackers.com wrote a bot that could vote over and over again. The original thread id was http://www.blizzhackers.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=139332

However, it has been deleted by now. But a lot of people saved screenshots of the thread. At this link, you can see one of the many saved screenshots:
http://www.teamareola.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3879

Also, although the thread has been deleted, there's a wealth of references to the voting bot all over the forums.
http://www.blizzhackers.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=139242
http://www.blizzhackers.com/phpBB2/...er=asc&start=15
Note that it is the same poster who is in the screenshot of the deleted thread.

And here is a copy of the program floating around
http://scbunker.brinkster.net/d2h/


Lastly, here is the official titlefight forum at the point when theoretically, the bot started being used. http://www.forumplanet.com/titlefig...id=1320878&p=12



Firstly, I am a little annoyed. I dislike Diablo as a game, but I don't really care too much about Starcraft losing.

Secondly, it's really sad that they were this low.

Thirdly, it's kind of funny.

Last edited by Jaguar on 26-03-2004 at 09:31

	26-03-2004 13:04									#2
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I think its a nice use of technology to abuse a broken voting system.

And Diablo 2 is an "ok" game. Its not the greatest plot or anything, but hack'n'slash will always have its place.

Starcraft? Just another Dune2 clone isn't it?

-Jam

	26-03-2004 13:13									#3
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That's an odd way of thinking about it. Blizzard is basically the king of RTS, and Starcraft is one of theirs. Starcraft was at least as genre-defining as Dune2.

	26-03-2004 13:35									#4
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Is there really any difference between the Westwood RTS games and the Blizzard RTS games? They're both based on building structures to produce troops while harvesting stuff, are they not? Just the models, maps and statistics of the thingies change.

-Jam

	26-03-2004 13:40									#5
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Basically. But Starcraft and Warcraft had most w00tacular SP campaigns.

	26-03-2004 18:26									#6
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Warcraft 1&2 were great, but Warcraft3 was total bollox. The SP campaign was first of all dead easy, even on hardest level; secondly the story may have been attractive, but the fact that you had to wait until the end of each campaign in order to have access to every monster was kinda stupid. I've never even used most troops. Playing the orcs I simply quickbuild some raiders and trolls with spears to pick out airborne troops and bam I win. What a challenge.

Good thing is the races are totally different from eachother, but Orcs still kick everyone's ass
Oh yeah: the graphics suck ass too!

PS: What's the point anyway. some people voting which is the better game. Is it going to change your life, is this important for these games?

	26-03-2004 21:22									#7
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d2 has so many hacks in real life it seems fitting... then again the d2 cheat bot was probably just better than the starcraft one.

	26-03-2004 21:30									#8
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i for one haven't found many of the rts games to be all that diferent from each other.

rts was the rage for awhile, but fps games are easily the hottest thing on the market now...

but as each genre spews out hundreads (yes pun intended) of clones, the advancement in quality suffers.

	26-03-2004 21:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Is there really any difference between the Westwood RTS games and the Blizzard RTS games?

Starcraft has alot more atmosphere and, well, 'fun' then any other RTS I've played. Jaguar is right about the single player campaigns being great, too.


And yeah, Warcraft 3 is crap.

	26-03-2004 23:21									#10
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starcraft is a good game.
diablo isnt even a game. its gay.

(yeah, i wasted 1billion hours on a game that Im cussing right now... where can i get my hours refunded? )

i find it funy when people judge multiplayer games based on single player experience. Single player = appetizers in MP games...

	26-03-2004 23:44									#11
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starcraft=good experience

	27-03-2004 00:01									#12
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quote: Gamespy titlefight scandal: Diablo II Cheated!

* sigh *


* alva wonders people tried to vote more then once though??.......I did

	27-03-2004 00:05									#13
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I was one of those simcity players on Starcraft.

	27-03-2004 00:11									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar I was one of those simcity players on Starcraft.

simcity? u mean like building and teching stuff?

u do realize that the whole point is to destroy people who are building things who are also trying to destroy right?

	27-03-2004 00:14									#15
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Yes.
So what I would do is select the Protoss, build up a small army and use a Dark Archon to capture the other two buildiers, then bring them back and build my base even further
It was so fun.

	27-03-2004 00:18									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Is there really any difference between the Westwood RTS games and the Blizzard RTS games? They're both based on building structures to produce troops while harvesting stuff, are they not? Just the models, maps and statistics of the thingies change. -Jam

well, whats the difference between civ and ctp? or SMAC? sure, if ur looking at the pretty animations, you could say that. but if u actually observe how game gets played, it's a different answer.

Difference in RA2 and SC makes civ, smac and CTP look like clones.

	27-03-2004 00:18									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Yes. So what I would do is select the Protoss, build up a small army and use a Dark Archon to capture the other two buildiers, then bring them back and build my base even further It was so fun.

OMg, I love doing that! ROFL. Im like so a builder too!
nothing like complementing ur carriers with zergling/hydra swarm. ROFL.

Usually ppl quit if u own that much though... :*(

	27-03-2004 01:45									#18
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Update: According to Gamespy, the bot didn't work, so even though the Diabloers tried to cheat, it wasn't necessary. However they're keeping it quiet because they don't want people to make one that does work.

	27-03-2004 01:46									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar I was one of those simcity players on Starcraft.

I love building up a huge base. I don't really care about destroying the other guy. "Why can't we live in peace?"

	27-03-2004 02:01									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior I love building up a huge base. I don't really care about destroying the other guy. "Why can't we live in peace?"

cause ur opponent doesnt want to.

Unless u play my style of RTS gaming.. (as long as they stay in their base ) im the "you stay in ur base, ill expand to every corner of the map and outresource, outproduce and outman u" type of player.

	27-03-2004 02:19									#21
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Why are you posting in a yavoon-ish style?

	27-03-2004 03:11									#22
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wHo teH **** iS yavoOn!!1!!!??

	27-03-2004 03:12									#23
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I liked making gigantic hordes of zerglings and ultralisks, like you see in the custom-rules games, and completely overwhelming my oponents base. Not very effective, sure, but when it works you really get to gloat about killing someone with zerglings.

	27-03-2004 03:13									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Zero wHo teH **** iS yavoOn!!1!!!??

The only person on my ignore list.



But maybe not for long....

	27-03-2004 03:14									#25
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd I liked making gigantic hordes of zerglings and ultralisks, like you see in the custom-rules games, and completely overwhelming my oponents base. Not very effective, sure, but when it works you really get to gloat about killing someone with zerglings.

zerglings are top tier.

	27-03-2004 03:15									#26
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd The only person on my ignore list. But maybe not for long....

still doesnt tell me who the **** he is!!11!!!!

	27-03-2004 08:13									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I think its a nice use of technology to abuse a broken voting system.

Web-based voting systems almost always can be messed by 'bots. That's why they are completely unreliable as serious data.

	27-03-2004 08:18									#28
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The bot looks like some sort of macro script. Does anybody recognise what it is?

	27-03-2004 10:07									#29
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AWESOME!

I want a voting bot to use on CNN polls.

Starcraft > all

	27-03-2004 13:54									#30
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sTaRcRaFt iS dA s3X!