27-03-2004 23:02									#1
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In the C3C manual, the new Civ's have preferred and shunned governments. I couldn't find any reference to this in the orginal manual.
Is this just a style thing, or are there bonuses and penalties associated with these governments?
If so, does anyone know what the preferred/shunned governments are for the original civs?

	27-03-2004 23:56									#2
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Why aren't you at your post?

Going off memory here, so there may be more to it, but the upshot is that if you're in an AI civ's shunned gov't, it negatively affects their attitude toward you, and being in their preferred gov't positively affects it. I almost want to say it only works positively if you and they are in the same gov't, but I'm not sure. In any event, it's a minor feature.

	28-03-2004 00:32									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi Why aren't you at your post? Going off memory here, so there may be more to it, but the upshot is that if you're in an AI civ's shunned gov't, it negatively affects their attitude toward you, and being in their preferred gov't positively affects it. I almost want to say it only works positively if you and they are in the same gov't, but I'm not sure. In any event, it's a minor feature.

I don't believe you have to both be in the same government for it to work, but I could be wrong about that. In any case the rest of it is correct as far as I know. I don't usually pay much attention to it though since as you said it's a minor feature.

	28-03-2004 00:39									#4
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Thanks for the information.
By the way, this is my post!

	28-03-2004 02:44									#5
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Basically it is of little import and you are not going to change govs to take advantage of it anyway. So it is just any fyi.

	28-03-2004 03:17									#6
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Minor or not, here is just another tidbit drifting in the land of unknown. Shunned government = prejudice and poor attitude.

Gee, did someone ever think of documenting this?

	28-03-2004 03:24									#7
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Games like Civ don't have manuals, they have web forums populated by fanatical gamers who knows the game better than the developers.

	28-03-2004 06:41									#8
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Being in a shunned government to someone only makes the civ slightly unhappy for a short while. If you pay them some money as a gift to make them happy or ally with them it will get over any negative diplomatic reputation effects.

Every time you change government just check your reputation hasn't been affected on your diplomatic screen.

This shunned government affect could be improved to make the civ game more interesting.
Its meant to be like a cold war thing, where liberal governments despise dictatorships.. though this is more a propoganda effect in real life, often so called 'democracies' are more despotic than so called fascist or dictatorship governments.

	28-03-2004 08:14									#9
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QUOTE//check your reputation hasn't been affected on your diplomatic screen//QUOTE by Admiral PJ

Many thanks, and here again something I not aware of... my 'reputation'! Oh well, I just figured like any 'good Christian American' if my Army is bigger and I use it well most of the time, my 'reputation' has got to be good.

Nevermind my prejudice is showing.

Since I am on roll here filling in the 'blank' spots of my erstwhile 'knowledge bank', are there 'graphs' available for F11 info screen, like CIV II?

	28-03-2004 17:52									#10
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This doesn't really do much except explain a key missing piece of the attitude puzzle. I wondered for ages why gifting govt techs could negatively affect attitude.